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Title: Project escalation
Post by: Sandinista on 28 May 2019, 09:14:27 AM
Why is it in this hobby nothing is simple  :)

I decided that my BEF army was too large at nearly 7000pts, so I split it to create an early desert war force. Of course I didn't have enough command bases so I needed to place an order for more. Then after ripping the figures off their bases I discovered that I didn't have any of the ones that I used previously. No problem, I can use slightly larger ones, 30x40 rather than 20x30, they'll mix in fine I said. Then I decided I liked the look so much I needed to rebase all my armies, German, Russian and French, another order placed for more bases.
I now have another "problem", who can the Brits fight in the desert? I think an Italian order is in the pipeline...

Life is hard in the colonies  ;)

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Leman on 28 May 2019, 09:28:55 AM
Not only there. Just had to rebase some figures onto Impetus 'half-size' bases so that I can play Furioso with the same armies.
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Steve J on 28 May 2019, 09:29:08 AM
Going through project boxes recently made me realise that I've ordered so much 'stuff' that I can't honestly remember why, as it was so long ago. Luckily I've made the conscious decision to pretty much play re-inforced Battalion size games on a 4' x 4' table, with the odd foray onto a 6' x 4' one. No longer the planned 3 Battalions per side!
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 28 May 2019, 11:09:34 AM
Rebasing, best avoided at almost all costs.

I found my earlier days in the hobby saw a scattergun aproach to purchasing.
Part of this was restricted funds, meaning i could rarely justify a full purchase.
Another factor was that the order mechanism involved writing a letter to an address in Miniature Wargames magazine.
Sometimes waiting for the printed catalogue to be delivered - unless the company placed their catalogue in a full-page advert.
Then another letter to state the order's contents - sometimes with a third letter where terms of postage and packing were vague.

The whole process was slow, tenuous and didn't lend itself to shopping around to fill out an army list.

Another problem was a lack of a settled set of rules.
Let's face it, most rules from over 2 decades ago left a lot to be desired.
We got a game, but they were either very hard work (to learn and play) or rather lacking as a gaming experience.
My opinion (strictly my own) is that improvement in rules has reduced my tendency to "project hop".

A few years back I decided to impose some discipline on my purchases - something I've mostly adhered to, though succumbing to a cheeky new purchase quite recently.
Things are a generally a lot more stable, but I attribute much of this to having fund rules that I'm quite content with.
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Ithoriel on 28 May 2019, 12:01:35 PM
I have avoided the re-basing problem in a very simple way .... I don't re-base I buy whole new armies.

Which is why, for example, I have WW2 Eastern Front forces in 2mm, 3mm, 6mm, 10mm, 15mm, 20mm and 28mm.

Much of them unpainted.

Doh!
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: pierre the shy on 28 May 2019, 12:42:27 PM
I managed to get away recently with just rebasing some of a Leidang 28mm army that I was left after one of my best friends past on a few years ago.

Rob used to play a lot of DBM in the 2000's and the Leidang army list had a lot of bow armed Psiloi with 2 figures on a 40x20 base as well as double ranked Knight wedges. We have been playing a bit of DBMM lately (love them or hate them they are the very popular choice ancient/medieval rules in NZ using 25/8 mm figures). DBMM changed the Leidang army list significantly and the Psiloi became Bondi Archers with 3 figures on a 40 x 20 base. So I converted some 20 stands of Psiloi to Bows by soaking 10 Psiloi stands to get the figures off their stands and using a dremmel to create a hole in the gravel and static grass in the bases of 20 other Psiloi stands large enough to fit the base of a third figure. Then it was just a matter of gluing the extra figure in and flocking round it to match the existing base. 

Done in an evening and I still have all 10 fingers intact  ;)

Of course the first time we played with them the Leidang got comprehensively creamed  :-[

The knight wedges proved a bit more challenging to remove from their bases but are slowly being rebased as Medieval German allies and I have enough existing 12th Century spear and xbow troops to field an allied command which can give the army a few different configuration options. The Leidang figures are all OG and the local club does have an 40% off "army" deal with the manufacturer but even so the cost of buying more 28mm figures is astronomical compared to 10mm so I won't be investing in any further 28mm figures.             
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Sandinista on 28 May 2019, 12:56:55 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 28 May 2019, 12:01:35 PM
I have avoided the re-basing problem in a very simple way .... I don't re-base I buy whole new armies.

Which is why, for example, I have WW2 Eastern Front forces in 2mm, 3mm, 6mm, 10mm, 15mm, 20mm and 28mm.

I have similar with Wars of the Roses in 6mm, 10mm, 15mm and 28mm :-)

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Dave Fielder on 09 June 2019, 09:33:54 AM
I re-based my 6m Volley and Bayonet 3-inch square based forces (FPW and ACW) onto 30mm square bases. This had the effect of a four-fold increase in forces (on 3-inch base broke down to 4 smaller bases). I like the idea so much I built a Napoleonic 1st Empire set of forces. Re-basing always means buying more. Is that why Pendraken offer bases as well as figures  :-X
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Leman on 09 June 2019, 01:18:55 PM
The joys of the lead mountain. Bought these 15mm beauties in the 90s - just painted them:

(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/61686590_144828300009772_1792306633058025472_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=08fabf046e8a7a8e9a47d9b7d0f5930d&oe=5D9AAAA8)

BUT...........to finish this project I need to buy some extra stuff  :'(
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: mmcv on 09 June 2019, 02:49:30 PM
Looking good!

I've just realised I'm a couple of command figures short of finishing my current batch of ECW units...a week after I'd already got a small order in. And if I go to order them now I'll have to add some more bits in to make the postage worthwhile and before you know it... I just have to try and hold off a month or two...  :-SS
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Leman on 09 June 2019, 08:18:43 PM
Don't know how I did it but I have held off for two months, but should be able to place an order tomorrow, then it will be another two or three before finishing the project mountain - a lot longer still to paint the beggars!
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Leon on 09 June 2019, 11:05:45 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 09 June 2019, 02:49:30 PM
I've just realised I'm a couple of command figures short of finishing my current batch of ECW units...a week after I'd already got a small order in. And if I go to order them now I'll have to add some more bits in to make the postage worthwhile and before you know it... I just have to try and hold off a month or two...  :-SS

If it's just a few figures, drop me an email and we'll sort those out for you.
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Techno on 10 June 2019, 07:05:09 AM
Those look damn fine, Andy !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Leman on 10 June 2019, 02:27:34 PM
Cheers Phil. It's odd to think that they had been sitting in a box unpainted for over 20 years. Suddenly they have come into their own.
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Sandinista on 23 June 2019, 07:41:33 AM
Great looking figures. Coincidentally I had my half finished Italian Wars figures out this afternoon, prompted by Lancashire Games 15%off sale, Venexia figures are tempting me again...

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: sunjester on 24 June 2019, 07:51:15 AM
There is a simple answer to this problem.......give Leon your credit card and tell him to sent you random stuff every month until you have an army in every era/nationality Pendraken produce (or you run out of space in your house). ;D
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Sunray on 24 June 2019, 08:16:13 AM
Quote from: sunjester on 24 June 2019, 07:51:15 AM
There is a simple answer to this problem.......give Leon your credit card and tell him to sent you random stuff every month until you have an army in every era/nationality Pendraken produce (or you run out of space in your house). ;D

You still have space in your house ? 
Title: Re: Project escalation
Post by: Leman on 24 June 2019, 12:03:04 PM
Oh dear - Lancashire Games are having a 15% off sale on everything - more Venexia for the Italian Wars.