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Title: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: Norm on 14 May 2019, 07:31:30 PM
Had a very small 'feel my way through a few turns' game yesterday and very much liked the feel of play.

Thanks all who got this into print,

Observations on the blog as usual. LINK

http://battlefieldswarriors.blogspot.com/2019/05/taking-blitkrieg-commander-iv-for-spin.html
Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: Big Insect on 14 May 2019, 09:59:19 PM
Great write up Norm

I couldn't spot any errors in you play and it's a great way to approach a new set of rules.

With regards to the taking hits off or not. TBF I am torn both ways. I like the quick game effect of keeping hits on, although it does end up with weakened units being 'picked' on - which might feel a bit inaccurate historically. However, the taking hits off does add a certain 'spice' to the game.
Our club is firmly in the 'hits off' camp.

There's a bit of a discussion running on the forum about Suppression, and we play the optional 2 hits = auto suppression from area weapons fire. It can at times seem a bit harsh but again it speeds up play.

Looking forward to hearing more Norm ... glad you are enjoying the rules concepts.

Mark
Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: petercooman on 14 May 2019, 10:11:19 PM
Great report!

I have used this simple rule in my solo games with bkc II:

At the end of the turn, units remove the following amount of hits:

veteran 3 hits
regular 2 hits
conscript 1 hit

Makes for slowly regenarating units and represents the battleshock on 'newer' platoons.

At times i also played that 1 hit can never be removed, to represent that a platoon can never fully recuperate in such a short period of time. This would represent loss of officers, special gear like radios or such things. The stuff that cannot be regained by regrouping.
Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: Steve J on 14 May 2019, 10:31:02 PM
Great report Norm :).
Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: Leon on 14 May 2019, 11:38:16 PM
Excellent report Norm, glad you enjoyed it!
Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: Ithoriel on 15 May 2019, 11:15:57 AM
Quote from: petercooman on 14 May 2019, 10:11:19 PM
Great report!

I have used this simple rule in my solo games with bkc II:

At the end of the turn, units remove the following amount of hits:

veteran 3 hits
regular 2 hits
conscript 1 hit

Makes for slowly regenarating units and represents the battleshock on 'newer' platoons.

At times i also played that 1 hit can never be removed, to represent that a platoon can never fully recuperate in such a short period of time. This would represent loss of officers, special gear like radios or such things. The stuff that cannot be regained by regrouping.

My groups have used this too, works well IMHO.

We were under the impression we'd invented it but it looks as if there may have been parallel evolutions.

Great minds think alike .... or the alternative :)
Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: Norm on 15 May 2019, 12:38:12 PM
Quote from: petercooman on 14 May 2019, 10:11:19 PM
Great report!

I have used this simple rule in my solo games with bkc II:

At the end of the turn, units remove the following amount of hits:

veteran 3 hits
regular 2 hits
conscript 1 hit

Makes for slowly regenarating units and represents the battleshock on 'newer' platoons.

I like the nuanced effect of that
Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: Ithoriel on 15 May 2019, 04:14:15 PM
A variant we have also used is that Fanatics recover one less hit per turn.
Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: petercooman on 15 May 2019, 07:03:30 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 15 May 2019, 11:15:57 AM
My groups have used this too, works well IMHO.

We were under the impression we'd invented it but it looks as if there may have been parallel evolutions.

Great minds think alike .... or the alternative :)

It was actually reccomended to me by Fenton on one of my batreps:

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8898.0.html

Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: Raider4 on 15 May 2019, 07:50:36 PM
Nice report, and what a lovely little scenario! Will have to file this one away.

Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: Raider4 on 17 May 2019, 06:34:48 PM
Just pointed out these forces in both BKC I and II. I get 390 (German) vs. 230 (USSR) in version I and 585 vs. 390 in version II.

Be interesting to see the points values in version IV?
Title: Re: New boy takes BKC IV for a spin
Post by: Norm on 17 May 2019, 07:48:40 PM
My notes say Soviet 410 and German 625 points