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Title: Motorbikes
Post by: hobbittomm on 21 April 2019, 12:41:37 AM
Yeah, okay, a low priority one, but only the Germans seem to get the love with the bikes.
Ideally some Airborne motorcyclists (Welbikes?), but anything to be honest. I blame Two Fat Lardies for putting motorbikes in the recon sections!

(On an unrelated note, bicycle infantry for French and Germans for Early war would be hilarious very useful.)


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulr on 22 April 2019, 12:47:13 AM
There are British WWI BP54 Motorcycle with sidecar (3) & French WWII FRE48 Motorcycle Troops, mounted (3) combat motorcycles

There are also a WWII & Italian and and Soviet WWII despatch motorcyclists

You mean like GRF71 Infantry pushing loaded bicycle (5) (formerly code GR45) in the German WWII range ;) :)


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 22 April 2019, 04:18:30 PM
Steve McQueen on one of those Wehrmacht issue Triumphs.


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 April 2019, 05:03:44 PM
If you can tell it's Steve McQueen in 10mm your eyesight is better than mine :)


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dr Dave on 22 April 2019, 05:29:00 PM
The Germans have dumped their motorbikes by early 1942.  :'(

The Kradshutzen bttns are all disbanded and personnel absorbed. The bikes are relegated to couriers and the odd recce company in the recce bttn.

Push bikes are just for a bit more mobility to get TO the battle, not to ride IN the battle. Jerry famously took thousands of bikes off the Dutch civilians to this end. In Hackett's "I was a stranger" (about his time as an escapee evader in the Netherlands) the Germans search a house for bikes which has already been picked clean. BUT one proud Jerry does take a pair of roller skates! Now THAT would be a figure to have.  ;)


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 April 2019, 06:45:12 PM
If we ever get 10mm Volksturm, perhaps we could have a Volksturm Panzerjager

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12548939_1310506022308899_7236373680149992947_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=1ead9bfbe6ea628716444afe77497135&oe=5D70CA4A)


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: hobbittomm on 22 April 2019, 09:39:28 PM
I was more meaning the unsidecar'd dispatch motorbikes (and presumably Wellbikes) that the Lardies have put in the Recon Company for British Airborne.


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 22 April 2019, 10:44:34 PM
Hans pops a wheelie.

If we ever get 10mm Volksturm, perhaps we could have a Volksturm Panzerjager

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12548939_1310506022308899_7236373680149992947_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=1ead9bfbe6ea628716444afe77497135&oe=5D70CA4A)


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 22 April 2019, 10:53:29 PM
The Germans have dumped their motorbikes by early 1942.  :'(

The Kradshutzen bttns are all disbanded and personnel absorbed. The bikes are relegated to couriers and the odd recce company in the recce bttn.

Push bikes are just for a bit more mobility to get TO the battle, not to ride IN the battle. Jerry famously took thousands of bikes off the Dutch civilians to this end. In Hackett's "I was a stranger" (about his time as an escapee evader in the Netherlands) the Germans search a house for bikes which has already been picked clean. BUT one proud Jerry does take a pair of roller skates! Now THAT would be a figure to have.  ;)

'ik wil mijin fiets terug' or "Mijn opa wil zijn fiets terug". I /My Grandpa want the bike back.

Dutch chant when playing the Germans at football.



(Illustration form the Beatniks Vs Pornstars era).

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/03/28/sports/28cruyff/28cruyff-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale)





Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 23 April 2019, 12:25:35 AM
I was more meaning the unsidecar'd dispatch motorbikes (and presumably Wellbikes) that the Lardies have put in the Recon Company for British Airborne.

There's also the WW1 despatch rider - WW1 under WW1 Miscellaneous

(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/1902/WW1.jpg)


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Mako on 21 October 2019, 05:48:18 AM
Actually, I read that one of the famous German tankers used a motor bike to perform a recon and to try to reach another unit shortly after the D-Day landings, so people were still using them in the German army fairly late into the war.

That was a M/C without a sidecar, IIRC, but I'd like to see both ones with and without sidecars produced.


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sunray on 21 October 2019, 10:13:28 AM
Irregular Miniatures do a couple of hairy bikers - one pillion passenger toting an RPG7 - in the modern 10mm bushwar range.

From the image it is probably too modern for WW2, but perhaps the single biker figure's machine  could be modified  to a WW2 look ?? 


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 21 October 2019, 12:47:43 PM
Yeah, okay, a low priority one, but only the Germans seem to get the love with the bikes.
Ideally some Airborne motorcyclists (Welbikes?), but anything to be honest. I blame Two Fat Lardies for putting motorbikes in the recon sections!

(On an unrelated note, bicycle infantry for French and Germans for Early war would be hilarious very useful.)

How can you mention bicycles without mentioning Belgium (and Italy)?


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dr Dave on 22 October 2019, 08:09:50 PM
Actually, I read that one of the famous German tankers used a motor bike to perform a recon and to try to reach another unit shortly after the D-Day landings, so people were still using them in the German army fairly late into the war.

That was a M/C without a sidecar, IIRC, but I'd like to see both ones with and without sidecars produced.

Yes agreed, but itís not a unit on motor bikes. Thatís one bloke with a motorbike. They did still use them for couriers, but not for whole m/c bttns like they had in 1939-41

The solution for a German motorbike is simple. Get the pendraken set and donít add the side car?


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 October 2019, 10:47:50 PM
How can you mention bicycles without mentioning Belgium (and Italy)?

...and the Netherlands ... ""where is my grandfather's bicycle" :)


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: John Cook on 22 October 2019, 11:50:03 PM
Steve McQueen on one of those Wehrmacht issue Triumphs.

Not so fast!  I donít know what model Steve McQueen had in The Great Escape but Triumph was founded by a German and was known as Triumph-Werke NŁrnberg AG in Germany.  Between 1932 and 1942 the Wehrmacht used more than 40,000 Triumph bikes in 7 different  models  :)


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 23 October 2019, 08:51:42 AM
...and the Netherlands ... ""where is my grandfather's bicycle" :)

I mentioned Belgium and Italy since both fielded "elite" units of bicycle infantry.

I'd also not heard of the Dutch (great bicycle users though they are) using the bicycle in a military context.
My impression was they still used the horse for motor-free reconnaissance, one created by working just along the road form the cavalry barracks.

A bit of research reveals weilrijder platoons attached to infantry as reconnaissance elements.


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 October 2019, 11:17:49 AM
I'd also not heard of the Dutch (great bicycle users though they are) using the bicycle in a military context.
My impression was they still used the horse for motor-free reconnaissance, one created by working just along the road form the cavalry barracks.

It was a reference to the 2006 World Cup when a T-shirt with the slogan "I want my bicycle back", referring to Germany's seizure of Dutch property under occupation, had reportedly been selling fast in the Netherlands. It was an offence, punishable by death in some cases, for the Dutch not to hand over their bikes from 1942 onwards, iirc..


Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Leon on 07 January 2020, 11:13:07 PM
Votes added!

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