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Pendraken Rules! => Blitzkrieg Commander IV => BKC-IV Miniatures => Topic started by: Itinerant Hobbyist on 19 March 2019, 05:04:52 AM

Title: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Itinerant Hobbyist on 19 March 2019, 05:04:52 AM
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Techno on 19 March 2019, 07:03:29 AM
I bet that not everybody gives the figures a wash before painting !

I have to admit that I often forget to wash the dollies when I'm slapping the putty on them....Which is why the green stuff doesn't stick to the white metal properly !

Good for you IH. :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: petercooman on 19 March 2019, 09:11:29 AM
Quote from: Techno on 19 March 2019, 07:03:29 AM
I bet that not everybody gives the figures a wash before painting !



I never do. I find that it really depends on what you are using as primer. Some just stick better than others!
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Techno on 19 March 2019, 09:54:49 AM
I'll let myself off, with the 'non washing' approach.....Most of the time I 'Dremmel' the dollies to make them a bit thinner...So I tend to work on 'clean' white metal.  :D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: fsn on 19 March 2019, 12:30:49 PM
Quote from: Techno on 19 March 2019, 09:54:49 AM
I'll let myself off, with the 'non washing' approach.....
Yes, there have been complaints.

Quote from: Techno on 19 March 2019, 09:54:49 AM
Most of the time I 'Dremmel' the dollies
Still illegal in 13 US States, including Florida and Missouri.


When we talk "washing", do we mean under the tap, or with a diluted ink?

I don't wash figures, because they've come from Pendraken so never been touched by human hands, and I've never had a problem with them once primed.

If we're talking diluted ink ... or speciality products from Games Workshop like Dead Starfish Brown, or Hitler's Heart Black ... then I have tried undercoating white then washing black; I've tried undercoating black (grey or brown) then dry brushing white. I prefer the fromer to the latter, but the darker colours are (IMnot soHO) more suitable for some fihgures - e.g. mail clad.
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Westmarcher on 19 March 2019, 12:53:43 PM
Funnily enough, I always wash resin buildings first but it's never crossed my mind to wash my Pendraken Miniatures. Not to say there has been no preparation work involved - e.g., levelling the underneath of bases, evening up the effects of the odd misaligned moulding, removing flash, removing the 'feeder line' under horses' bellies or filling in large "air pockets" in the odd figure. I think my oldest Pendraken miniatures are at least 15 years old now and I have not suffered any problems.
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: fred. on 19 March 2019, 01:19:07 PM
I don't wash metal figures routinely. Occasionally if a certain pack seems to have stuff on them I'll give them a wash, but this is very rare.

I do wash resin before priming though.
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Raider4 on 19 March 2019, 02:44:24 PM
I've always rinsed-off plastic kits under the tap before assembling. Never occurred to me to do the same to metal figs.
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Techno on 19 March 2019, 03:22:01 PM
Quote from: fsn on 19 March 2019, 12:30:49 PM

When we talk "washing", do we mean under the tap, or with a diluted ink?

Under the tap, with a tiny spot of washing up liquid and a VERY old, wee, paintbrush, Nobby.

There's often a tiny coating of the 'releasing agent' on the metal figures (Talcum powder, or similar) which can mean the green stuff won't stick to the figure.
Like I said above, if I'm working on a new figure from a dolly, I usually don't need to do this....But the odd conversions or repairs to a metal master I do....It's a good idea to wash them first....But I usually forget, to start with.  :-[.....Which means there's a lot of harsh language. :D

Cheers - Phil ;)
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 19 March 2019, 05:30:34 PM
I make a point of not washing in the 6 months leading up to a wargame show.  ;)
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: lowlylowlycook on 19 March 2019, 07:21:20 PM
I definitely wash metal and especially resin but not always plastic.
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Orcs on 19 March 2019, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 19 March 2019, 05:30:34 PM
I make a point of not washing in the 6 months leading up to a wargame show.  ;)

While this was placed as a joke, while helping Steve Barber at Salute a couple of Years ago, his sister came along to help and one of her comments was "quite a few of the wargamers have an aroma about them"  :D
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Orcs on 19 March 2019, 07:40:51 PM
I never considered washing metal figures, despite them being handled a fair bit to take of tidy up bases and take of flash etc.

I always was plastic and resin kits or figures  giving them a gentle scrub with an old toothbrush and some washing up liquid, then a good rinse.

The Dystopian wars resin from the now defunct Spartan games was a real b*gger needing a good soak in hot water, a two scrubs with toothbrush and washing up liquid.

There are many other figures I would like to wash........ Karen Gillan, Emily Blunt, Caroline Catz.  :d :d


Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 March 2019, 08:35:55 AM
Only ever washed soft plastic figures, in luke warm water with a very small amount of washing up liquid. Think I ought to wash resin hulls from Cruel Seas as well, but tend to just slap on more paint.

IanS
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Itinerant Hobbyist on 21 March 2019, 07:02:14 PM
It's a pain, so I will skip it next time and see what happens.
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: jaztez on 28 March 2019, 04:54:05 PM
In 30 years or gamin I have never washed a figure. Never had paint flake off. Literally cannot see what the gain is from all that messing around!
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Norm on 28 March 2019, 09:05:04 PM
I always, always, always wash, since I heard about the guy who saw ALL the paint just fall away from his miniatures after 30 years and 6 months :-)

No really, everything gets washed, i just figure 'why not' considering all the other investment that I pour into a figure.
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: paulr on 28 March 2019, 09:55:54 PM
Quote from: Norm on 28 March 2019, 09:05:04 PM
No really, everything gets washed, i just figure 'why not' considering all the other investment that I pour into a figure.

That is my thinking as well, i don't use a toothbrush though unless the figures are discoloured or similar
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Inactive on 22 April 2022, 02:00:00 AM
One of the purchases I made for other purposes comes in very handy for wargaming too.  Ultrasonic cleaner, used for cleaning jewellery etc.  Pretty cheap and I always wash figures simply because I don't want to find out too late that I should have.  Used to be a PITA but now I just dump the the figures (in batches if there's too many) into the basket, squirt of dish detergent, then zap them for 10 minutes.  Then just rinse them off with cold water.
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: sultanbev on 22 April 2022, 09:14:13 AM
Never washed metal figures ever. Soft plastic 20mm figures, yes.

Some of my micro armour still has the single coat of Humbrol enamel I put on them 40 years ago and are still usable, and all my 15mm napoleonics are still looking good 20 years on. Life's too short for making work!
Title: Re: And Now to the Brits - washing and OOB planning
Post by: Rhys on 22 April 2022, 10:43:40 AM
I still have my first microarmour from 38 years ago which I baked the first layer of paint on.
I've never washed any of my metal figures and have never seen any paint falling off (over 35 odd years).
Is there excessive fondling involved?