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Title: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 14 October 2018, 01:06:17 PM
For my self I'm currently adding figures to the Elizsabethan range (not a Pendraken planned range just me out of my own pocket) e.g

3 x Mounted command
4 x aquebusiers
2 x musketeers and rest
2 x unarmoured pike
1 x mount aquebus

I see on the request list a mounted spanish genitor, can somebody send me a picture(s) to work from?

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Ithoriel on 14 October 2018, 01:33:51 PM
The most distinctive feature of the Genitor (aka Ginetes) is the heart shaped shield, derived from the Moorish ones.

(http://home.mysoul.com.au/graemecook/Renaissance/15_Genitor_shield.jpg)

My mental image comes from Ian Heath's line drawing (tagged b here)

(http://home.mysoul.com.au/graemecook/Renaissance/15_Spanish_cavalry.gif)

Some more images

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkf_pXa8ft6psZ7uK4qY6I_h-7qRtStVsOW6BO2RA6o5lqNmvi)(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAztJ6jKsn7L98snL46_C0sVebrj-BqINNPTj1OaOaEbZ0ykbs)(http://www.thevikingforge.net/MRC-15-1024x768.jpg)


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: mad lemmey on 14 October 2018, 01:38:31 PM
Nice one Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: FierceKitty on 14 October 2018, 01:44:58 PM
Important - genitors rode with very short stirrup leathers, like jockeys. They could well be wearing mail too.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 14 October 2018, 02:41:00 PM
Eh ?.....What ?  ;) ;D ;D ;D

Dave... Just tell me what you fancy....And I'll make the wee chaps. ;)

Cheers - Phil....I really am NOT having a good day, for a Sunday.



Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 14 October 2018, 05:13:49 PM
Iíll look forward to these.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 15 October 2018, 09:15:57 AM
Would definitely buy at least one pack to add to my newly acquired Spanish army, but please no puffling pants, the earlier types didnít wear them.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Steve J on 15 October 2018, 09:17:36 AM
Yet more temptation comes my way!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: ianrs54 on 16 October 2018, 08:38:26 AM
Eh ?.....What ?  ;) ;D ;D ;D

Dave... Just tell me what you fancy....And I'll make the wee chaps. ;)

Cheers - Phil....I really am NOT having a good day, for a Sunday.



Why should sunday be any different in Wales, and I suspect Dave wants good masters !


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 16 October 2018, 01:19:54 PM
I thought Dave had already got good masters. :D

Andy....Some have already got those, I'm afraid.

Kitty...I've done matey with short stirrups.....But mail is a b*gger to do on a mounted figure, as the horse's head gets right in the way of the chest on a figure.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 October 2018, 01:22:54 PM
Separate shield which can be glued to hide the sculptural shortcomings in the pectoral zone?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 17 October 2018, 08:06:43 AM
Too late.  :(

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: ianrs54 on 17 October 2018, 08:33:49 AM
Separate shield which can be glued to hide the sculptural shortcomings in the pectoral zone?

Too fiddley on a finished model.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 19 October 2018, 07:36:52 PM
Phil
Has sent me a pic of the finished figures and its the dogs b*****ks 8).  Cheers Phil you've done it again.

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fsn on 19 October 2018, 07:41:32 PM
Well it won't be the Collie then.  :)


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 21 October 2018, 09:02:56 AM
Thanks, Dave ! :)

No, Nobby...It won't be the collie.  ;D ;D

She IS a bit of a 'tomboy' though. Cocks her leg to have a pee, and does have the habit of trying to h*mp  my shin occasionally.  :o

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Sunray on 21 October 2018, 09:48:24 AM
What's the best rules for this period?  Just in case I ever get tired of bush wars !


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: jaztez on 21 October 2018, 11:21:54 AM
I'm confused.  Are these guys going to be available to buy, or are they being sculpted for a private order?

I really hope we can buy them, they would "work" for the Italian wars!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 21 October 2018, 03:12:02 PM
I'm confused.  Are these guys going to be available to buy, or are they being sculpted for a private order?

I really hope we can buy them, they would "work" for the Italian wars!

The figures will be available to buy, its just not a planned Pendraken range.

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Sunray on 21 October 2018, 04:47:26 PM
The figures will be available to buy, its just not a planned Pendraken range.

Dave

A bit like an unplanned pregnancy   ;)

Seriously - I remember 1988 - there was a spate of demo wargames in 25mm to commemorate Spanish Armada and "what might have been invasion".   Lots of Tudor era houses for scenery and perhaps a few 1/144 or near enough ships/galleons.

What rules are recommended for the period?   


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 21 October 2018, 08:28:01 PM
I'm a big fan of Irregular Wars, don't need huge numbers of figures for a force, gives a good fun game, with lots of friction.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Sunray on 21 October 2018, 09:49:28 PM
I'm a big fan of Irregular Wars, don't need huge numbers of figures for a force, gives a good fun game, with lots of friction.

Thanks Fred, I will check it out.  These figures would also be useful for Border Reiver type games and raids. 


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 21 October 2018, 10:34:26 PM
That they would.

Irregular Wars is aimed at the large skirmish / small battle size of game so good for this sort of raid.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: jaztez on 22 October 2018, 10:45:45 AM
Excellent news!  Fills a couple more gaps for Spanish in the Italian wars!

I can feel another Fernando Enterprises painting order and huge Pendraken order coming on...

The figures will be available to buy, its just not a planned Pendraken range.

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Sunray on 22 October 2018, 10:49:00 AM
That they would.

Irregular Wars is aimed at the large skirmish / small battle size of game so good for this sort of raid.

On that point, are there any 10mm pele towers or border type bastles in resin ?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: jaztez on 22 October 2018, 01:56:03 PM
The glaring gap now is a generic early sixteenth century unarmoured pike set with a few different hat types, for French, Italian, french etc, or just filling the ranks with the armoured figures at the front.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 22 October 2018, 04:49:10 PM
ER10 Early  C16th European pikemen are a terrific little pack. Some of the Scots pike, Landsknecht pike and late medieval armoured and unarmoured pike can be added to the mix to produce some great looking French/Italian and Spanish pike units.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: toxicpixie on 23 October 2018, 10:14:50 AM
I can second ER10, they're very handy!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 28 December 2018, 12:23:44 PM
just started moulding the Elizabethans starting with the cavalry command.

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 28 December 2018, 04:42:57 PM
Woo!!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: mad lemmey on 28 December 2018, 05:45:20 PM
Woot!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 28 December 2018, 07:37:04 PM
Verily ítis a most excitable Lemmy, clad in cross-gartering and puffling pants.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: mad lemmey on 28 December 2018, 08:01:32 PM
Blackadder sculpted yet?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 29 December 2018, 08:18:23 AM
No.....and I wasn't allowed to do Lord Percy Percy with that oversized ruff, either.  ;)

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Orcs on 29 December 2018, 08:28:39 AM
AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

I wish you lot would stop doing stuff for Italian Wars, I already have loads of 15m painted figures and even more unpainted 15mm for it.

And you lot keep adding to the temptation.

Still there is not a Stradiot in the range, so I will convince myself that I cannot do an army until it is.  :) :)


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 29 December 2018, 09:25:41 AM
Go on, go on, go on!! such a fantastic period I have it in four scales (built up over 30+ years I hasten to add).


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Orcs on 29 December 2018, 09:41:36 AM
Go on, go on, go on!! such a fantastic period I have it in four scales (built up over 30+ years I hasten to add).

What rules are you using?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 29 December 2018, 05:06:12 PM
Impetus (15mm and mostly BI2 these days), To the Strongest (28mm), FoGR (10mm). Canít decide what to do with my 6mm, but will probably put them on big bases to make dioramas then find something I can use them with.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Orcs on 30 December 2018, 07:15:16 AM
Impetus (15mm and mostly BI2 these days), To the Strongest (28mm), FoGR (10mm). Canít decide what to do with my 6mm, but will probably put them on big bases to make dioramas then find something I can use them with.

I did but FOGR and after reading it it seemed incredibly fiddly. I have looked at Impetus a couple of times, I am no investigating tweaking Sword and Spear.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 04 January 2019, 11:02:07 AM
 3 moulds done - mounted command - officer, bugler, stnd, mounted handgunner ( :-[1 pose) and foot hand gunner (5 poses). Just about to mould the billmen(2 poses) and then the unarmoured pikemen(2 poses).

Dave :-*


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Shedman on 04 January 2019, 11:09:14 AM
I've just finished re-reading Gloriana by Michael Moorcock.

Any chance of doing some  Elizabethan Gentlemen, Ladies, Adventurers and ne'er-do-wells?



Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Fenton on 04 January 2019, 11:57:01 AM
I did but FOGR and after reading it it seemed incredibly fiddly. I have looked at Impetus a couple of times, I am no investigating tweaking Sword and Spear.

ADLG are bringing out a renaissance set this year. We've always found the ancients version fun and quick


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 04 January 2019, 01:05:06 PM
Far too addled to understand ADLG.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: toxicpixie on 04 January 2019, 06:56:52 PM
Itís like a sensibly written and easy to play DBx - we like it!

Although for Elizabethan stuff I might look at Baroque, the period specific Impetus version...


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: mad lemmey on 04 January 2019, 08:31:20 PM
Period set of Mortiem et Gloriam being playtested too.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 04 January 2019, 08:51:58 PM
Itís like a sensibly written and easy to play DBx - we like it!

Although for Elizabethan stuff I might look at Baroque, the period specific Impetus version...
Unfortunately this leaves me none the wiser as to what ADLG stands for.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Raider4 on 04 January 2019, 08:57:38 PM
Unfortunately this leaves me none the wiser as to what ADLG stands for.

And I've no idea what FOGR is either.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 04 January 2019, 09:00:24 PM
Word Salad.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 04 January 2019, 09:04:29 PM
And I've no idea what FOGR is either.
Field of Glory - Renaissance


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Steve J on 04 January 2019, 09:29:00 PM
ADLG = Art de la Guerre


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 05 January 2019, 04:39:39 PM
Aah - the French one. May be a bit too retro for my taste.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: toxicpixie on 05 January 2019, 05:13:55 PM
If you the DBx series but want something a bit more meaty and less prone to gameyness then theyíre very good. If youíre not fussed about that then they wonít float your goat :)


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 09 January 2019, 04:59:49 PM
All mould's done, genitor finished finished last night.

Dave  :D


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 09 January 2019, 05:28:25 PM
Exciting. Are you going to get Leon to take some photos?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Steve J on 10 January 2019, 08:09:59 AM
Can't wait for 'photos either!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 13 January 2019, 12:19:05 PM
I've put the figures on strips and give them a wash ready for painting,  the problem I have for selling them is that I paid for them and not Pendraken!!!

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 13 January 2019, 12:23:05 PM
I've put the figures on strips and give them a wash ready for painting,  the problem I have for selling them is that I paid for them and not Pendraken!!!

Dave

 >:(ready for photographing not painting doh!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 13 January 2019, 04:25:43 PM
Does this mean that after all the anticipation weíre not going to be able to order them from Pendraken?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 13 January 2019, 04:41:07 PM
I do hope that there is a way to make these figures available.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leon on 13 January 2019, 05:30:45 PM
I'll have a chat with Dave and see what we can work out.  If these are going to be added to the Pendraken catalogue then it would be better to remould the existing Elizabethan range and include these new sculpts, so the existing pack of single pose Arquebusiers would become a 2 or 3 pose pack, the Musketeers would have an extra pose, etc., etc.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 14 January 2019, 07:27:10 PM
I'll have a chat with Dave and see what we can work out.  If these are going to be added to the Pendraken catalogue then it would be better to remould the existing Elizabethan range and include these new sculpts, so the existing pack of single pose Arquebusiers would become a 2 or 3 pose pack, the Musketeers would have an extra pose, etc., etc.

the existing hand gunner is already in the new range making a mixed pack of 5 poses.

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 14 January 2019, 07:27:43 PM
Does this mean that after all the anticipation weíre not going to be able to order them from Pendraken?

Or pay me direct??

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Raider4 on 14 January 2019, 08:21:32 PM
Or pay me direct??

I'm confused. Doesn't Dave == Pendraken?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 15 January 2019, 09:07:38 AM
Iím losing the plot here -b I thought this was all about the imminent release of a Spanish genitor. :-/


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 15 January 2019, 11:34:49 AM
I donít understand....


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Shedman on 15 January 2019, 11:47:58 AM
I'm confused. Doesn't Dave == Pendraken?

I could be wrong but I think "Dave" is actually an off-shore shell company in the Maldives that handles the millions of pounds owned by the Pendraken Foundation Trust

Pendraken Miniatures is merely a front to put HMRC (10mm Elizabethan Dept) off the trail of the Foundation's secret plan to recreate Elizabethan England in 10mm in Middlesbrough on a 1:1 scale

As I said I could be wrong



Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leon on 15 January 2019, 04:40:26 PM
The difference with these is that they weren't sculpted as a Pendraken job, this was a personal project for Dave.  So he's paid for all of the sculpting work out of his own pocket, rather than Pendraken paying for them.  If we add them to the Pendraken site and sell them as normal then we've got to pass that money to Dave (and Pendraken would be liable for the VAT on those sales) so it's just a bit messy.

I'm confused. Doesn't Dave == Pendraken?

Kind of, but not quite...!  This might help: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,17250.0.html


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Matt J on 15 January 2019, 04:54:49 PM
You'd have to probably buy the masters/moulds off Dave but then is it a viable purchase for Pendraken (what with all the other new ranges)  :- so, yeah, tricky I guess.

How about put images up - take potential orders (kind've of mini non-kickstarter) and buy off Dave if the interest is there to cover the cost?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Fenton on 15 January 2019, 04:59:00 PM
I could be wrong but I think "Dave" is actually an off-shore shell company in the Maldives that handles the millions of pounds owned by the Pendraken Foundation Trust

Pendraken Miniatures is merely a front to put HMRC (10mm Elizabethan Dept) off the trail of the Foundation's secret plan to recreate Elizabethan England in 10mm in Middlesbrough on a 1:1 scale

As I said I could be wrong



If they did  I would transfer immediately


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 15 January 2019, 09:51:34 PM
Getting back to the Spanish genitor - is it a Pendraken model or not? If not then there goes the chance of rounding off the Italian Wars.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leon on 15 January 2019, 10:01:48 PM
I've had a chat with Dave tonight and he's wanting to use any money from sales to get a few more bits done for his project so these will be Dave's for the time being.  Folks can still buy them from him, but they won't be going through the Pendraken site.  I'm going to take some pictures for him so that you can see what's been done, and then he can work out the best way of ordering/paying him.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Raider4 on 15 January 2019, 10:39:36 PM
I've had a chat with Dave tonight and he's wanting to use any money from sales to get a few more bits done for his project so these will be Dave's for the time being.  Folks can still buy them from him, but they won't be going through the Pendraken site. 

So, if we buy Dave's new Elizabethans, we'll be buying from a.n.other company? Isn't that being disloyal to Pendraken? My head hurts . . .  :-X


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 16 January 2019, 07:33:53 AM
Is the bloody genitor in there or not? Answer please - itís not rocket science!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 16 January 2019, 08:21:18 AM
If that's the chap with the heart shaped shield, on a horse, the answer's "Yes". :)

Though I can't remember exactly what it looked like, 'cos I've deleted all the pics I sent Dave, and I've done the Greeks and other stuff since then.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 16 January 2019, 08:31:34 AM
Oh well, cheers for that Phil. Back to the 15mm guys then. Getting the 15mm Spanish army up and running would make a nice mid-year project without spending anything (unless my paint runs out).


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 16 January 2019, 12:35:38 PM
No sweat, Andy. :)

I'm sure something will get sorted out.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Orcs on 16 January 2019, 12:50:37 PM
So, if we buy Dave's new Elizabethans, we'll be buying from a.n.other company? Isn't that being disloyal to Pendraken? My head hurts . . .  :-X

The short answer is No.

You will not be buying from a company, you will be buying off Dave Pengilly who has had a personal range of figures made.  He will cast them up in his workshop for you to cover some of the expense in producing this range of figures.

It just so happens that this Dave Pengilly co-owns Pendraken with Leon, and his workshop is the Pendraken unit.



Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 18 January 2019, 07:02:44 PM
Getting back to the Spanish genitor - is it a Pendraken model or not? If not then there goes the chance of rounding off the Italian Wars.

The genitor is done and production moulded along with the other figures, if you want some figures from the list I've had done personally for myself, you would have to pay me direct ie a old fashioned thing called a cheque or leon was on about setting me a personal paypal account.  The cost of the figures will be without VAT added this would be £4.35.  The figures are based and washed ready for photographing over the weekend.   As Leon has already said any money I get back I'll pass to Phil to get more figures done.  I didn't think me getting a range down would course this much stress ;D

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 18 January 2019, 07:07:44 PM
The short answer is No.

You will not be buying from a company, you will be buying off Dave Pengilly who has had a personal range of figures made.  He will cast them up in his workshop for you to cover some of the expense in producing this range of figures.

It just so happens that this Dave Pengilly co-owns Pendraken with Leon, and his workshop is the Pendraken unit.



Correct, I'm using this to get some money back to get more figures done, currently I've invested £500 in the masters, thats my limit so any money back will do extra figures and on that I'm open to ideas (hopefully I haven't opened a can of worms here).


(Dodgy) Dave
The man without a plan


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Last Hussar on 18 January 2019, 08:25:36 PM
I'm still in shock Orcs said something that was
A) coherent
and
B) correct.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: ianrs54 on 19 January 2019, 09:38:47 AM
I'm still in shock Orcs said something that was
A) coherent
and
B) correct.

Well I just had this chimp knock on the door with the complete works of Shakespeare he said he and hos mates had typed up !


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: FierceKitty on 19 January 2019, 10:38:37 AM
The line Cold news for me, for I had hope of France (spoken by the Duke of York) occurs in two locations in Henry VI part 1. Does your simian scholar have any opinion which is correct? The text is obviously corrupt.

I do question the reading Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more,//Or serve bananas to our English dead. How much is Cheetah asking for his edition, anyway?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 19 January 2019, 10:39:19 AM
The opportunity to buy some genitors direct is great. Thanks for that, Dave.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Last Hussar on 20 January 2019, 02:32:26 AM
I can not offer more comment, on the basis I typed B then Bracket.
I got
B)

Orcs wins because of the stupidity of artificial intelligence.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 20 January 2019, 09:49:29 AM
 As Leon has already said any money I get back I'll pass to Phil to get more figures done. 
Dave

Look forward to that Dave. :)...I really enjoyed doing those.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 20 January 2019, 12:28:44 PM
Great to hear this will be available- Iím sure I can dig the cheque book out!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Raider4 on 20 January 2019, 07:05:02 PM
Great to hear this will be available- Iím sure I can dig the cheque book out!

Does anyone under 40 actually possess a cheque book?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 21 January 2019, 07:18:39 AM
We've still got ours. (Yes.....I know we're not in the under 40 bracket).

But I'm d*mned if the Inland Revenue are going to force us to use online banking, so it's easier for them to get paid.
They can make do with a cheque !  :P

Cheers - Phil



Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: FierceKitty on 21 January 2019, 09:13:20 AM
Reminds me of the Bohemian refugee looking for a safe haven: "Can you cache a Czech somewhere here?"


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 21 January 2019, 04:50:49 PM
 ;D ;D On the news this morning it mentioned the fact that HMRC wonít take credit card payments any more (and I donít think the DVLA will either) thus a cheque book is now a necessity again (EU legislation has made charging for using a credit card illegal - thatís how skinflint the British government is!).


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leon on 21 January 2019, 05:56:40 PM
On the news this morning it mentioned the fact that HMRC wonít take credit card payments any more (and I donít think the DVLA will either) thus a cheque book is now a necessity again (EU legislation has made charging for using a credit card illegal - thatís how skinflint the British government is!).

I think the no credit cards thing is something to do with not putting tax payments on credit rather than anything to do with the fees.  I don't know the full reasoning behind it, but basically you have to pay your taxes immediately, rather than the bank paying them and you potentially defaulting on the credit card payments.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Raider4 on 21 January 2019, 06:16:51 PM
The line Cold news for me, for I had hope of France (spoken by the Duke of York) occurs in two locations in Henry VI part 1. Does your simian scholar have any opinion which is correct? The text is obviously corrupt.

Maybe he's trying to introduce it as his catchphrase? A fifteenth century version of Shut that door! or Stupid boy! maybe?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: FierceKitty on 21 January 2019, 11:25:31 PM
hmmmmmm..


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Last Hussar on 21 January 2019, 11:52:08 PM
I think the no credit cards thing is something to do with not putting tax payments on credit rather than anything to do with the fees.  I don't know the full reasoning behind it, but basically you have to pay your taxes immediately, rather than the bank paying them and you potentially defaulting on the credit card payments.
They ('we' 11 years ago) don't want people taking on high interest debt to pay tax.  When I was a Collector we we weren't just debt collectors - our aim was to get you on a stable footing so you could continue to earn, we didn't go for a quick hit.  The best way to treat me was to be honest and co-operative. There was a grey area of what you would offer, what I would take, and the line I couldn't cross. The more honest and co-operative (and that means keeping to promises) you were, the bigger the grey area.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 22 January 2019, 07:59:06 AM
In what will surely be a vain attempt to bring us back on track, any photos yet?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leon on 22 January 2019, 06:20:22 PM
In what will surely be a vain attempt to bring us back on track, any photos yet?

I've got them here to do, just not had chance yet.  I've got the Ancient Greek sculpts and some more WWII painted vehicles to photo as well.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Last Hussar on 23 January 2019, 04:57:47 AM
In what will surely be a vain attempt to bring us back on track, any photos yet?

Good god, man. What sort of lunatic are you?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 23 January 2019, 07:45:43 AM
Sometimes the pills wear off, and you just do these things.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 23 January 2019, 07:55:52 AM
I blame it on the puffling pants!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leon on 29 January 2019, 10:33:30 PM
Here's the pics of Dave's figures:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4895/46196452284_dc041886c8_z.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4803/39956540803_a8b16f6c18_z.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7906/39956541013_bfaf8b1e9e_c.jpg)

2 x musketeers and rest
2 x unarmoured pike
2 x billmen
5 x aquebusiers
3 x mounted command
1 x mounted arquebusier
1 x mounted spear?


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Last Hussar on 30 January 2019, 12:28:04 AM
I blame it on the puffling pants!
Yeah, like, this is very big in Italy. Edgy.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: mad lemmey on 30 January 2019, 07:04:33 AM
They won't be Daves for long...
Top work


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 30 January 2019, 07:27:20 AM
Very nice. I think I like the 5 arequebusier the most


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 30 January 2019, 08:06:17 AM
I assume the mounted spearman is the genitor. I canít quite tell whether he has a shield or not.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Steve J on 30 January 2019, 08:13:05 AM
Great stuff 8)


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Shedman on 30 January 2019, 09:20:50 AM
Lovely figures - it's tempting to do Border Ravers with these chaps


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Westmarcher on 30 January 2019, 09:35:22 AM
Lovely figures - it's tempting to do Border Ravers with these chaps

Some modern Elizabethan Border(?) Ravers ........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8G8cdbPmp8
 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 30 January 2019, 09:41:17 AM
I assume the mounted spearman is the genitor. I canít quite tell whether he has a shield or not.

Hi, Andy....I'm 99.99999%, you're right on the genitor.....Because I copied artistically re-interpreted the black and white line drawing from the first page in this thread.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: toxicpixie on 30 January 2019, 09:42:16 AM
Reach for the lasers!

Is '97 still modern when it's twenty plus years back :D

Lovely looking little chaps. The figures aren't bad either!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Shedman on 30 January 2019, 09:50:03 AM
Some modern Elizabethan Border(?) Ravers ........

lol - they don't write them like that anymore

Any chance of Pendraken doing a range?

sorry for the typo


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 30 January 2019, 10:12:39 AM
Lovely figures - it's tempting to do Border Ravers with these chaps
Or we could use them as Spanish and then they would be Ibiza ravers.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 30 January 2019, 10:13:19 AM
Hi, Andy....I'm 99.99999%, you're right on the genitor.....Because I copied artistically re-interpreted the black and white line drawing from the first page in this thread.

Cheers - Phil
Thanks Phil.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 30 January 2019, 10:21:53 AM
You're more than welcome, Andy. :)

Any chance of Pendraken doing a range?

What ?...a range based on my magnificent Charles Atlas physique.....No..... That bloke's to heavy to use for inspiration.... :-\ Hmmmm...He's not that far off, I suppose.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 30 January 2019, 08:08:32 PM
I assume the mounted spearman is the genitor. I canít quite tell whether he has a shield or not.

the shield is on the other side, slightly heart shaped.

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Sunray on 30 January 2019, 09:40:59 PM
Thanks Fred, I will check it out.  These figures would also be useful for Border Reiver type games and raids. 

Apart from playing a raid and the hot trod over the Debatable Lands, we could add the Desmond & O'Neill Troubles in Ireland, and Dudley little sortie into the Spanish Netherlands

Or a Spanish raid on a south coast town? Lindbergh have an Ark Royal in 1/160,  Airfix did a 1/144 Revenge. And although a little early in period the 1/144 Columbus set of a carrack and two caravel.   :)


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Westmarcher on 31 January 2019, 10:07:49 AM
Here's a link to the "I Live With Cats" blog that appears to offer some useful background information on the Elizabethan Irish Wars, including a short bibliography.

http://ilivewithcats.blogspot.com/search/label/Elizabethan (http://ilivewithcats.blogspot.com/search/label/Elizabethan)


Title: Re: elizabethan
Post by: d_Guy on 05 February 2019, 06:16:18 PM
I am a simple man (or simpleton if you prefer). This thread has been agony. I want to do Ireland 1569 - 1601. I wanted to do it in 10mm.
Instead I switched to 15mm to get the pose variety. I have buyerís remorse. Not that the 15s arenít nice enough but the 50% increase in size simply no longer meets my aesthetic (which was more ingrained than I thought).

I have now seen Daveís new figures - I like them - I want them. Do I send an email to Dave?

I am also old - the Irish figures (ELM 12 & 13) need more poses but likely will not see an expansion any time soon. As (imho) Kerns and Bonnachs are interchangeable - 5 additional poses would help - can I commission these directly?

Likewise the gallowglass (ELM 15) could use 2 or 3 additional poses. Same question as above.

Toxic Pixie has watched me change my mind (what is it Pixie, a half dozen times?) on what I will send him to paint. He is a patient man and a gentleman painter (who is also kicking my ass in a campaign-by-mail game), I would like to get something into is painting queue.

As to the 15s I now have, some will be kept for skirmish level, some will make a HOTT army, some will be gifts, some will be traded, some will be sold, some may still end up with Pixie for painting. (They were my Christmas gift from my wife and I will have some explaining to do)

This whole post feel like an auto-da-fe  :-[


Title: Re: elizabethan
Post by: Dave on 06 February 2019, 07:17:05 PM
I am a simple man (or simpleton if you prefer). This thread has been agony. I want to do Ireland 1569 - 1601. I wanted to do it in 10mm.
Instead I switched to 15mm to get the pose variety. I have buyerís remorse. Not that the 15s arenít nice enough but the 50% increase in size simply no longer meets my aesthetic (which was more ingrained than I thought).

I have now seen Daveís new figures - I like them - I want them. Do I send an email to Dave?

I am also old - the Irish figures (ELM 12 & 13) need more poses but likely will not see an expansion any time soon. As (imho) Kerns and Bonnachs are interchangeable - 5 additional poses would help - can I commission these directly?

Likewise the gallowglass (ELM 15) could use 2 or 3 additional poses. Same question as above.

Toxic Pixie has watched me change my mind (what is it Pixie, a half dozen times?) on what I will send him to paint. He is a patient man and a gentleman painter (who is also kicking my ass in a campaign-by-mail game), I would like to get something into is painting queue.

As to the 15s I now have, some will be kept for skirmish level, some will make a HOTT army, some will be gifts, some will be traded, some will be sold, some may still end up with Pixie for painting. (They were my Christmas gift from my wife and I will have some explaining to do)

This whole post feel like an auto-da-fe  :-[

Hi
Yes just send an email to my personal email address, the d.pengilley one.

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: d_Guy on 06 February 2019, 07:30:39 PM
Thanks, Dave!

Already sent on to Leon, but will send against your address.

Sent to Pendraken and not minibit - correct me if that was wrong.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leon on 06 February 2019, 09:02:07 PM
I've forwarded your message on Bill, no worries.  Dave will be dealing with the orders/queries through his personal email, which is the d.pengilley one that we used to use for Pendraken.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 07 February 2019, 07:24:10 AM
AHA !

I couldn't remember if that one was still live.

Derrrr.

Cheers - Phil #-o


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: d_Guy on 07 February 2019, 05:28:28 PM
Iíve sent basic info to Dave at various address, so one will likely connect. My hotmail random filters important email into junk from time to time. Just today an email from Mr. Lemmy regarding the 1689 campaign went to junk - no rhyme nor reason!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leon on 07 February 2019, 05:34:28 PM
I've seen those arrive in the Inbox so Dave will reply to you later tonight I expect.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 07 February 2019, 05:58:49 PM
Don't copy me.....(Only joking)

At the moment I feel like a song from those reprobates 'The Who'....

I'm out of my brain on the 5:15..... :P

Cheers - Someone tell me what my name is......I've forgotten.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fsn on 07 February 2019, 09:15:10 PM
Nurse! He's off again!

Two of the green tablets - and the same for Techno.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 08 February 2019, 08:35:33 AM
At the moment, it's one of the pink ones and a couple of the blue ones, Nobby.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 08 February 2019, 09:37:37 AM
So if I was to contact Dave in time I could pick up a pre-order at Phalanx? I am currently putting together Dutch and Spanish for the earlier part of the 80 Years War. Plus, really want some genitors for Gonsalvoís army.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Dave on 08 February 2019, 07:35:25 PM
So if I was to contact Dave in time I could pick up a pre-order at Phalanx? I am currently putting together Dutch and Spanish for the earlier part of the 80 Years War. Plus, really want some genitors for Gonsalvoís army.

Yes you can

Dave


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Leman on 09 February 2019, 01:38:42 PM
Cheers Dave.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 09 February 2019, 05:12:53 PM
I'm just wondering what Bill is going to have me make.  ;)

Pink and blue pills coming up soon...(Just been to see MIL)......Dribble..Flerb...Wlip (sic)

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: toxicpixie on 10 February 2019, 10:52:34 PM
Bill, I'll paint 'em in ten, fifteen or whatever you fancy in the end :D

Just as soon as I clear the back log ;)


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: d_Guy on 10 February 2019, 11:00:28 PM
The pills! Youíll paint Technoís pills!?










Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: toxicpixie on 10 February 2019, 11:13:18 PM
Not sure that'd help their function, but sure :D

Sorry, I sort of started that in response to your comment on painting and returning to 10mm, but the conversation had wandered on a little from there!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: fred. on 30 March 2019, 10:26:29 AM
My ordered arrived this morning. And very nice they are too!

I went for lots of arquebusiers, Foot, Foot with rest, and mounted.

Also a pack of pikes - Iíll see how adding pikes to the open hands goes.

And the mounted command.

Really nice crisp figures.


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: d_Guy on 30 March 2019, 02:56:04 PM
And I got word from Dave, that mine are in transit.
They will get assembled into units (along with other figures), have pikes added, then shipped back to England for Pixie to work his magic.  :)


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: toxicpixie on 30 March 2019, 04:12:38 PM
Well travelled!


Title: Re: elizabethans
Post by: Techno on 30 March 2019, 09:39:01 PM
Not as far as the 'Clicky Mechs' I made years ago. :D

From the UK to the States....From the States to China.....From China back to the States...then the States back to me.

That was quite a journey for me to get a copy of each one back.

Cheers - Phil