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Title: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 04 July 2018, 10:47:58 PM
With the competition open, you can discuss all of the entries here!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 04 July 2018, 11:07:57 PM
Nice Russians Peter!  8)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 05 July 2018, 04:21:48 AM
Thanks!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 10 July 2018, 12:44:51 PM
Zippee has been very busy!
Some cracking entries coming in now.
Mine hopefully hit the painting table tonight, or tomorrow...
What do we want? PROCRASTINATION! When do we want it? Next Tuesday?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mollinary on 10 July 2018, 12:57:28 PM
Zippee has been very busy!

Yes, with some very nice painting on display, but he isn’t really very good at reading the rules, is he?  :D :D ;)

Oh, and one of his ECW cavalry cornets is upside down!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 10 July 2018, 04:48:25 PM
Zippee has been very busy!
Some cracking entries coming in now.
Mine hopefully hit the painting table tonight, or tomorrow...
What do we want? PROCRASTINATION! When do we want it? Next Tuesday?
;D ;D ;D =O


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fsn on 10 July 2018, 05:59:54 PM
Some cracking entries coming in now.
What do you mean now?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 10 July 2018, 08:57:04 PM
Indeed there are. I particularly liked the invisible Gnomes in the fantasy section.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 11 July 2018, 08:44:11 AM
Welcome Clawless Dragon. Which system are you using to post pictures? I use Flickr, and have to adjust the code to make it work.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 11 July 2018, 08:59:56 AM
And a warm welcome from me, too.  :-h

If you have real problems posting the photo's, I think Leon's said to send (email) them to him, and he'll load them onto the appropriate thread.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: clawlessdragon on 11 July 2018, 09:08:20 AM
Welcome Clawless Dragon. Which system are you using to post pictures? I use Flickr, and have to adjust the code to make it work.
Hi thanks, the 128kb limit on this forum is very limiting, but I saw others had used Flickr, so I simply made an account, loaded the pictures there, then used the share option on Flickr which gives a mini link... and I copied and pasted that into the thread here on the forum (thinking it would pull though a thumbnail, and the link to the larger image)... happy to adjust the code if shown how :) thanks.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 11 July 2018, 09:19:49 AM
Clawlessdragon, if you go on flicker on your picture, there is an arrow underneath. if your cursor is on it it says share.

click it

then you get a pop up screen. Instead of using the link given there, choose "bbcode" and that will give you a link that will work in this forum. just copy/paste that one instead.



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: DHautpol on 11 July 2018, 10:38:13 AM
I particularly like the effect Zippee has achieved on the helmets of his ECW cavalry; would that be something like gunmetal base with silver highlights?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 11 July 2018, 12:25:59 PM
Hi thanks, the 128kb limit on this forum is very limiting, but I saw others had used Flickr, so I simply made an account, loaded the pictures there, then used the share option on Flickr which gives a mini link... and I copied and pasted that into the thread here on the forum (thinking it would pull though a thumbnail, and the link to the larger image)... happy to adjust the code if shown how :) thanks.

All sorted and displaying now!  Nice work as well.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: clawlessdragon on 11 July 2018, 12:51:21 PM
thanks for the help - I was just signing in this lunchtime to fix it, but you managed to do it for me :)
I actually have another 4 units (15 stands) painted up - but have put the elves on hold whilst doing another army.
looking forward to see what other people do in the fantasy section.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 11 July 2018, 12:55:32 PM
thanks for the help - I was just signing in this lunchtime to fix it, but you managed to do it for me :)

No worries, good luck!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: TheGamingArtisan on 11 July 2018, 01:19:58 PM
Awesome job! I love the blending on the bows and the flock mix you've used!  :)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 11 July 2018, 04:13:30 PM
Nice to see that the invisible gnomes have gone and something substantial has replaced them.they really are very nice indeed Clawless.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Zippee on 11 July 2018, 04:17:18 PM
I particularly like the effect Zippee has achieved on the helmets of his ECW cavalry; would that be something like gunmetal base with silver highlights?

it's actually panzer grey with a gunmetal highlight - full details as below (Cote d'arms):

UNDERCOAT WHITE
223   HT Chestnut   Horse     216 Negro   211 Light Grey
212   Dark Grey   Bridle
214   Flesh   Muzzle                                           212 Dark Grey
211   Light Grey   Blaze, socks                           101 White
216   Negro   Mane, tail           504 Panzer Grey   101 White
216   Negro   Hooves
232   Bronze   Bridle fittings
524   Tan Earth   Base
      
504   Panzer Grey   Armour
211   Light Grey   Collar, Coat, Breeches, Sash, Buff Coat, Gauntlets, Belts, Flesh
V   UNIFORM   Coat, Breeches
V   ACCENT   Hanging Sleeves, Trumpet Banner
105   Flame Orange   Sash, (Parliament)
104   Blood Red   Sash, (Royalist)
221   HT Dun   Buff Coat, Standard Shaft
228   Buff   Gauntlets, Belts, Bags
529   Beige   Flesh
235   HT Brown   Hair
150   Shadow Grey   Saddle Blanket
212   Dark Grey   Hat, Boots, Scabbard, Holsters
504   Panzer Grey   Powder Flask, Helmet, Standard Head, Pistol Barrel, Sword Blade
211   Light Grey   Feathers
      
HIGHLIGHTS
214   Flesh   Flesh
228   Buff   Buff Coat
233   Linen   Gauntlets, Belts, Bags
101   White   Collar
V   UNIFORM   Coat, Breeches
V   ACCENT   Hanging Sleeves, Trumpet Banner
215   Oriental Flesh   Sash (Parliament)
147   Burnt Orange   Sash (Royalist)
231   Mid Grey   Saddle Blanket
525   Uniform Grey   Hat, Boots, Scabbard, Holsters
142   Gunmetal   Powder Flask, Helmet, Armour, Standard Head, Pistol Barrel, Sword Blade
220   Silver   Standard Head, Sword Blade
232   Bronze   Sword Hilt, Pistol Lock, Trumpet, Trumpet Banner Frings, Stirrups
      
BLACK INK WASH

UNIFORM COLOURS
Unit            No   Base Colour   No   Highlight
Red           104   Blood Red           147   Burnt Orange
Tawny   147   Burnt Orange   105   Flame Orange
Green   209   Dark Green   208   Grass Green
Blue           207   Dark Blue           206   Light Blue
Grey           231   Mid Grey           211   Light Grey




Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Felster on 11 July 2018, 10:59:34 PM
Hello all!

Thought I'd try my hand with my Napoleonics. Lots of scarily good painting about, but always fun to see other people's armies.

Foot and army entered from my collection, painted over the last year. Mounted painted on spec, far beyond what I'd usually do but a good challenge to stretch the medium.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 11 July 2018, 11:09:35 PM
Looking good and good luck!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: skinade on 12 July 2018, 09:38:38 PM
rupert of hentzagheh. love the movement in that cavalry general


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 15 July 2018, 12:34:39 PM
Great entries today, what little chance I had is evaporating quicker than a spilled pint in this weather!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 15 July 2018, 01:21:49 PM
There really are a lot of totally brilliant entries in 'the mix' already....I'm jealous, again. (I thought I was really good painter  in times gone by....Not now !)

I'm looking forward to the voting, this year......and the way it's going to happen.

For those who want to know....The way I've done it in previous years (with the five or so other judges) is to mark each entry out of 10, as they come in.....(No-One EVER gets a 10....'cos then I've got nowhere to go.)

THEN I try and separate the entries that have all got the same score.....and it's almost impossible, a lot of the time...and say.....OK....Entry 'X' gets my vote.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fsn on 15 July 2018, 02:35:28 PM
Yeah.  :(


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 15 July 2018, 04:32:48 PM
I really like Redstef and Sutuphippie’s diorama approach to their bases, and I particularly like Shutuphippie’s base size and shape.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Shutuphippie on 15 July 2018, 06:43:01 PM
Cheers Leman 😁

There are some really fab units  submitted to the competition.

I’m really looming forward to voting

10mm is such a fab scale


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 15 July 2018, 08:54:26 PM
Got my ACW cavalry painted and put them in!

So far the competition is doing ok for getting the painting mojo up! But have been painting 28's for a  while, and returning to 10mm really showed me my eyesight is NOT getting better. Getting my new set of glasses this week!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 15 July 2018, 10:44:46 PM
Stuff like this is always a 2 edged sword for me.

I personally myself could never manage such a job, and my first instincy is to feel somewhat intimidated.

That soon gives way to admiration for the chaps (and chappees) with steadier hands, finer brushes and sharper eyes who can manage such wonders.
I share that admiration with the sculptors and casters who create the base items.
Well done all, take a seat at the Valhalla of people I admire.

Not quite up there with the Thailand cave rescuers.
Perhaps a step behind the plucky Gareth Southgate and his jolly band os Harrys, Jordans, Dannys and Kierans.
But certainly among the third tier of skiled people I admire.

 =D> =D> =D>


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 16 July 2018, 11:47:40 AM
For first models Geiss, those are great. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: ianrs54 on 16 July 2018, 12:30:01 PM
Nobby -- perhaps if you added a few tac badges, a radio antenna, painted your tracks gunmetal and dry brushed the vehicles you MIGHT get somewhere. (Nice piccies though).

IanS

Notice the old army technique, always find sumat to praise, no matter how bad  :D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fsn on 16 July 2018, 07:16:02 PM
Nobby -- perhaps if you added a few tac badges, a radio antenna, painted your tracks gunmetal and dry brushed the vehicles you MIGHT get somewhere. (Nice piccies though).
Not on the real thing (my recce troops have 4 badges on the lower hull front and 2/3 rear); don't like 'em on wargames models; they are - gunmetal, rust brown, dry brushed, silver;  it is, just lightly; (thanks).
 


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Felster on 16 July 2018, 08:10:45 PM
Really enjoying seeing the variety of posts coming in. Learning lots by seeing what people are doing.

What are people are using for basing? I found my usual sand looked huge.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Terry37 on 17 July 2018, 04:10:46 AM
I am really enjoying seeing everyone's work, and some very nice looking figures and models too! I am finishing up the basing on my entry and hope to post it maybe by end of week.

Leon you are a first class gentleman for sponsoring this type of event. It adds a new measure of pleasure and enjoyment of the hobby. Thank you!

Terry


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 17 July 2018, 06:28:54 AM
For first models Geiss, those are great. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)

Seconded  :-bd =D> :-bd


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 17 July 2018, 07:51:56 AM
So, the mounted competition has raised its bar, better lower it for mine, which are nearly done!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 17 July 2018, 10:37:27 AM
Leon you are a first class gentleman for sponsoring this type of event. It adds a new measure of pleasure and enjoyment of the hobby. Thank you!

 :-[  :-bd

We love the Painting Competition, it's always great to see what can be done with the little men we send all over the world!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Womble67 on 17 July 2018, 04:34:04 PM
Some cracking entries

Take care

Andy


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: skinade on 17 July 2018, 08:05:05 PM
Really enjoying seeing the variety of posts coming in. Learning lots by seeing what people are doing.

What are people are using for basing? I found my usual sand looked huge.
  I use silver sand (from the garden centre).It gives abit of texture , mixed up with pva it turns into good mud , add abit of "normal" sand when sprinkling - more texture . a couple of coats of emulsion on sand flattens it out


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Geiss on 17 July 2018, 09:24:50 PM
For first models Geiss, those are great. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)

Thanks! A lot of lurking here helped, and reading Andrew's 10mm website.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 17 July 2018, 09:38:42 PM
Well first off some great entries already :).

Now for the bad news. Had plenty of plans for the comp, then work went ballistic with an internal move, plus the on going saga of trying to get support for our son with special needs. Just as there was some light on the horizon, I cut my hand open as it got caught between a bench I was moving and a cast iron column!!! So off to A&E where they glued it shut, only for it to open up again :(. Now on the mend but difficult to paint with one and a bit hands.

Still there's still time and I'm off for the rest of the week, so you never know...


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fsn on 17 July 2018, 09:47:02 PM
Ow!Ow!Ow!Ow!Ow!OW!Ow!Ow!Ow!oW!Ow!Ow!Ow!Ow!Ow!Ow!

Ow!

Get better soon.

Big question: will you get a cool scar?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 17 July 2018, 09:52:12 PM
Thanks FSN. Not sure it will be a good scar, but you never know...


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Shutuphippie on 17 July 2018, 10:38:45 PM
Redstef your combined Grenadiers in the pre-20th century foot are inspirational

The command base in the single base category is also incredible 😁


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 17 July 2018, 11:18:54 PM
Now for the bad news. Had plenty of plans for the comp, then work went ballistic with an internal move, plus the on going saga of trying to get support for our son with special needs. Just as there was some light on the horizon, I cut my hand open as it got caught between a bench I was moving and a cast iron column!!! So off to A&E where they glued it shut, only for it to open up again :(. Now on the mend but difficult to paint with one and a bit hands.

Sorry to hear about the hand Steve, I hope it heals up quickly. 


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 18 July 2018, 12:26:56 AM
Get well soon Steve


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 18 July 2018, 01:09:07 AM
Hope it heals quickly Steve

Sounds like A&E need better super glue ;)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 18 July 2018, 06:02:56 AM
Hope the hand mends quickly, Steve !

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 18 July 2018, 07:32:51 AM
Thanks chaps :). It's healing nicely but the cut is right across the 'crease' under the little finger area of the palm, so damned hard to keep it immobile to allow it to heal, yet keep the fingers moving to help the bruising etc go!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 July 2018, 08:09:05 AM
The WW1 tank and the steam roller are both knockouts. I don't mind losing to painting that good (he lied through clenched teeth).


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 18 July 2018, 08:18:58 AM
 :-[


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 18 July 2018, 08:47:28 AM
Hope you’ll be fit and well for Colours Steve. Meanwhile found my last Pendraken unit was the SYW Prussian jaeger, so I’ve popped them in the comp. I still think a quality camera and photographic skills give an advantage - and of course I have neither.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Womble67 on 18 July 2018, 09:27:15 AM
Thanks! A lot of lurking here helped, and reading Andrew's 10mm website.

thank you for the mention

Well first off some great entries already :).

Now for the bad news. Had plenty of plans for the comp, then work went ballistic with an internal move, plus the on going saga of trying to get support for our son with special needs. Just as there was some light on the horizon, I cut my hand open as it got caught between a bench I was moving and a cast iron column!!! So off to A&E where they glued it shut, only for it to open up again :(. Now on the mend but difficult to paint with one and a bit hands.

Still there's still time and I'm off for the rest of the week, so you never know...

Hope it heals quickly Steve

Take care

Andy


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Geiss on 19 July 2018, 10:19:32 AM
I love the identification info Paulr has put on his WWI infantry. Very handy!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 19 July 2018, 10:25:37 AM
I don't think we've welcomed you to the forum yet, Geiss.  :-\

If we haven't......a very warm welcome !!

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Geiss on 19 July 2018, 04:30:18 PM
I don't think we've welcomed you to the forum yet, Geiss.  :-

If we haven't......a very warm welcome !!

Cheers - Phil

Thanks Phil! I managed to sneak my way in, but you've caught me!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 19 July 2018, 04:39:25 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

My pleasure 'G'.

You almost managed to sneak in under the radar.  ;)

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Ithoriel on 19 July 2018, 07:17:37 PM
Eight posts and only just welcomed - we are slipping gentlemen!

Hi Geiss, welcome to the forum.

With eight posts under your belt I can maybe dispense with my usual warnings about thread derailments, hobby horses, in jokes and general weirdness (all the preceding, ours not yours!).

The forum is, as you may already have found, is generally a welcoming place and a fount of knowledge, inspiration and support.

May you enjoy your time here as much as I am!



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 19 July 2018, 09:00:48 PM
I love the identification info Paulr has put on his WWI infantry. Very handy!

Your welcome Geist, the pugaree flash (black over blue) is at the back of the Wollesly making it easy to over look in 10mm ;)

Welcome :-h


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 20 July 2018, 02:59:07 PM
Very attractive LoA army put up by Black Michael.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Sandinista on 21 July 2018, 01:41:07 AM
Redstefs combined grenadiers are wonderful

Cheers
Ian


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 21 July 2018, 02:25:08 PM
There are some absolutely WONDERFUL entries in the various categories.  :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 21 July 2018, 11:49:41 PM
I bet your relieved not to be judging this year ;)

I know I'm not looking forward to having to select my votes X_X


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 22 July 2018, 07:20:59 AM
 ;)

Still got to make my picks... :D
But it's going to be just as hard to separate a lot of the entries. :-\

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Rupert of hentzau on 22 July 2018, 09:44:13 AM
Agreed, those combined Grenadiers are terrific!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 22 July 2018, 10:57:54 AM
Yeah ! Absolutely !

Already, I know I'm going to 'be arguing with myself', about how I'm going to cast my votes.  X_X (Like every previous year.  ;))

I hope this helps you to make your own minds up.

I'm sure I've already mentioned this.......When I've 'been a judge' in the past, I've marked each entry, as it comes in, out of 10.
(No-one ever got a 10......'Cos then I'd have nowhere to go.)

Now.
....Once the entries are 'finished', and the competition closed..I'll go back and compare all the ones that are in the 9+ bracket, and then try and TRY and decide which one deserves my vote for first place...which, second, etc (Knowing full well that on another day, I might have voted B-C-A instead of A-B-C.)

Not sure whether we've all going to have to choose our top three, for each category......Or whether we just get a single vote for each.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: SV52 on 22 July 2018, 02:29:42 PM
An entry either appeals or it doesn't at first encounter; simple, like me. Eh?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 22 July 2018, 02:37:52 PM
Trouble is......Too many appeal to me !!  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: skinade on 22 July 2018, 06:35:11 PM
ay up all , help please . motor bikes in the mounted category or vehicle category ? want to put them in "mounted" coz i've got a "vehicle" to submit


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Geiss on 22 July 2018, 10:59:29 PM
ay up all , help please . motor bikes in the mounted category or vehicle category ? want to put them in "mounted" coz i've got a "vehicle" to submit

I think the rules allow for multiple entries in each category. At least that's what I've done for 'single base'...


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 24 July 2018, 07:49:33 PM
Ohhh, MkIV tanks are popular this year!  ;D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mollinary on 24 July 2018, 08:35:33 PM
Forez, your Hessian Leibregiment looks absolutely superb! Welcome to the community!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 24 July 2018, 09:46:03 PM
There's been some really nice entries these past few days!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Terry37 on 24 July 2018, 11:01:20 PM
There have been indeed leon and it is going to be very tough to single out who to vote for. Right now I'm ready to vote for everybody!!!!!

Terry


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 25 July 2018, 06:20:18 AM
Good grief. :o

It's getting 'worser & worser' to decide. ~X( ~X(

Cheers - Mr Undecided.





Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fsn on 25 July 2018, 08:04:59 AM
On a totally unrelated matter, Techno, did that brown enevelope arrive?  :-$


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 25 July 2018, 08:33:55 AM
Last brown envelope that arrived was on Monday.....and that was a padded one from Leon.  ;)

Cheers - Phil



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: ianrs54 on 25 July 2018, 08:34:55 AM
Should we be party to this conversation....


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Geiss on 25 July 2018, 09:06:38 PM
Should we be party to this conversation....

What did I get myself into?  :-S


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fsn on 25 July 2018, 09:32:43 PM
If you find out - let me know.

It's mostly harmless, great fun and occasionally informative.

But I'm still not sure what it is.

I stick around because they haven't barred me.


Which is unusual.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 26 July 2018, 06:19:02 AM
Should we be party to this conversation....

They were only horse dollies.  =)

Cheers - Phil  :D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: ianrs54 on 26 July 2018, 07:50:55 AM
That just makes it sound worse !!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 26 July 2018, 10:52:11 AM
What did I get myself into?  :-S

I think you've already sussed out the forum, G. ;D

As Nobby (fsn) says
It's mostly harmless, great fun and occasionally informative.

The 'Gang' are incredibly helpful....Very knowledgeable....wonderfully supportive and encouraging.....and on many occasions.....Barking mad !
There IS a certain amount of urine extraction.....A lot of which seems to aimed at yours truly....But it's all done with tongue in cheek. (It better be... :P :P :P  ;))

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fsn on 26 July 2018, 11:47:07 AM
There IS a certain amount of urine extraction.....A lot of which seems to aimed at yours truly....But it's all done with tongue in cheek.
That all sounds rather unpleasant.   :-&


They were only horse dollies.  =)
You have to admit, that does sound like some kind of drug, probably based on ketamine.

Ketamine, I will remind you "induces a trance-like state while providing pain relief, sedation, and memory loss."   :-\



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 26 July 2018, 02:55:06 PM
Talking of horses, the mounted section has some lovely entries today!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 26 July 2018, 03:52:10 PM
That's certainly a difficult category to decide on.....And it's not the only one.
I'm SO glad it's not down to just the five (?) of us to decide this year.

You have to admit, that does sound like some kind of drug, probably based on ketamine.

OK, Nobby.....True story, (as far as I know)....as told to us by our then horse vet, when Von and I lived in Nottinghamshire.

Mrs 'X' had a horse that needed to be sedated in a couple of days time, for a minor procedure (Don't ask..I don't know).....this particular gee-gee was a bit of a b*gger when being approached by a stranger (or a vet who it recognised)...and was likely to 'go off on one'......ie. completely bonkers...So it needed sedating before being approached.

The horsey vet prescribed a very strong horse tranquilizer.... to be administered a few hours before the horse needed to be 'calmed down'.
As the drug wasn't due to be given for about 2 days....The vet left Mrs 'X' the horse pills....which she put in a tumbler, inside one of her kitchen cupboards.

Unfortunately.....Mr 'X' woke up in a bleary eyed state.....and wanted a glass of water that evening.
You can guess what happened....He picked up the glass with the pills in it.......topped it up with cold water....And glugged down the water and ALL the horse pills.

He was allegedly 'completely out of it' (comatose) for three days, and in hospital, before Mrs X cottoned on to the fact that the horse pills were missing, and her husband might not have had a stroke or heart attack.

Mr X apparently made a full recovery.....after a few days.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: xccam on 27 July 2018, 10:54:11 AM
Am I allowed to move my Elephant to Single Base rather than having 3 entries in one category, or is it stuck where I first entered it?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 27 July 2018, 11:39:27 AM
Over to Leon.  :-\

My guess is that, that would be OK.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 27 July 2018, 01:44:34 PM
Am I allowed to move my Elephant to Single Base rather than having 3 entries in one category, or is it stuck where I first entered it?

That's fine, I've moved it over to the Single Base instead, and good luck!

 8)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: xccam on 27 July 2018, 01:56:03 PM
Thanks Leon!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 27 July 2018, 02:01:27 PM
Thanks Leon!

No worries!

 8)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fred. on 27 July 2018, 07:06:43 PM
Well I will have a go this weekend at pulling together some entries. It seems between football, heat and general busy-ness I haven't done any* painting for some time.

I'll at least try and take some photos of stuff painted since  the last comp.



* Well last week while we were playing Dracula's America we were so fed up with one of our group, who's gang was still bone base coat with just red for coats etc painted, which was just how it had been several months ago when we last played. That during the game we collectively painted the rest of the figures for him. I did the bases, someone else did the faces, and some else hair and weapons with black. So a massive improvement in gang quality, all delivered during the game!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: andymac on 27 July 2018, 07:20:11 PM
Absolutely taken aback by the level of entries this year, i'm very glad I do not have the task of being one of the judges this year. Saying that though I have already started to write down my thoughts for the forum voting. 


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 27 July 2018, 10:35:33 PM
Well it cooled down enough here in Bristol to finally finish a plane, that had been waiting to be finished for over a year :-[. Even then the paint was drying so quickly, so I was glad I was only doing final details etc. Some tanks planned next as the weather is meant to be 12 degrees cooler tomorrow. Then it's the small matter of trying to take some nice photos...


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Geiss on 28 July 2018, 08:06:02 PM
Well it cooled down enough here in Bristol to finally finish a plane, that had been waiting to be finished for over a year :-[. Even then the paint was drying so quickly, so I was glad I was only doing final details etc. Some tanks planned next as the weather is meant to be 12 degrees cooler tomorrow. Then it's the small matter of trying to take some nice photos...

I agree that it's very hard to muster the energy to do much with the heat! Then I wake up today and I feel... dare I say it?... cold!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 28 July 2018, 08:30:45 PM
It was gloriously cold, we even all managed to go for a walk without needing factor 50 and seven litres of water each!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 28 July 2018, 09:45:04 PM
Yep, nice feeling cool and not having to water the garden. Might even get to sleep under the duvet tonight, the first time in many, many weeks!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 29 July 2018, 08:48:50 AM
Some more impressive entries to the comp this morning when I logged on. Voting is going to be damned hard, that's for sure!

Weather wise it's pouring with rain, pleasantly cool, so a nice and lazy day beckons with some painting to be undertaken for the comp at some point :)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 29 July 2018, 09:13:18 AM
Lashing down here, and the best sleep I’ve had for a couple of months. Inspired to plan my next 10mm armies, most likely Boer War and 1848 Danes so that I can pursue the Trumpton Wars. Also expand my Russian WWI army to include more Whites as a gaming mate wants to do the Reds, so a lot more likely to be available for next year's comp.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 29 July 2018, 10:43:38 AM
Not exactly pleasant, weather wise, in Pembrokeshire......Peeing it down !

Somewhat ironic (because of the amount of rain we normally get here)......But we really could do with it !

Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 29 July 2018, 08:55:44 PM
A lot of very impressive entries, voting is going to be challenging  X_X

IV seems to be popular in the Vehicle entries ;)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Terry37 on 29 July 2018, 09:05:57 PM
Paul, you are very right - we have some very talented members, and some truly awesome looking work! Good thin we get to vote for 25 entries in each category!!!!!!  ;D

Seriously, it is going to be VERY tough!

Terry


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 30 July 2018, 06:33:46 AM
Do we know how many votes we ARE getting ?
Will it just be the one for each catagory ?  X_X X_X X_X

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 30 July 2018, 10:15:45 AM
It'll be 3 votes, so everyone will have to choose their Top 3 like you guys did previously.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 30 July 2018, 02:14:27 PM
My turn to play dim now. Is that three per category or three in total?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 30 July 2018, 02:24:44 PM
My turn to play dim now. Is that three per category or three in total?

It'll be 3 per category, so you can choose your 3 favourite Vehicles, your 3 favourite 20th C. Foot, etc.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 30 July 2018, 05:45:14 PM
Ta muchly.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mollinary on 30 July 2018, 06:30:28 PM
Where has d’hautpol been hiding all these years?  Beautiful work with beautiful figures!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Geiss on 30 July 2018, 08:29:58 PM
Really excited to see so many WWI entries - I had no idea that 10mm WWI was so popular. I thought I was a bit of an oddity for going down that route. Can I ask what rulesets people have been using, assuming that these figures haven't just been painted up for the competition...


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Big Gazza on 30 July 2018, 09:48:56 PM
Good luck to all who've entered, looking forward to seeing the results, there's plenty of fantastic entries. Good luck to all.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 30 July 2018, 11:26:44 PM
Forbes! Will you stop putting in blindingly good entries!  :D ;D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: pierre the shy on 31 July 2018, 12:52:32 AM
Really excited to see so many WWI entries - I had no idea that 10mm WWI was so popular. I thought I was a bit of an oddity for going down that route. Can I ask what rulesets people have been using, assuming that these figures haven't just been painted up for the competition...

Hi Geiss Peter here.....our group uses Two Fat Lardies lf the Lord Spares Us rules. Originally written for brigade sized Middle East battles we have used them very successfully for Gallipoli and France 1914 games with some house rules added from the TFL forum and our own requirements. You can look back in the battle reports to see some of the games we have staged since around mid 2014.

To add to the WW1 theme l will be posting my entry for the painting comp latet today....good excuse to finish off some stuff l started months ago ☺


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 31 July 2018, 04:09:37 AM
A lot of really good entries this year, including from many new to the forum, great to see :)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 31 July 2018, 07:05:56 AM
Definitely !!

Some incredibly difficult choices to make, very soon !

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 31 July 2018, 07:32:44 AM
I use my 10mm WWI for Square Bashing - Eastern Front Russians, Austrians and Germans; Western Front Belgians and Germans, plus some help rom the Brits and French.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 31 July 2018, 01:24:45 PM
EVERY year.......The comment seems to get made......."The standard is better than ever"....Which tends to sound 'fake', and very condescending.

But it TRULY does get better & better.....I'm genuinely in awe of what's in the competition, this year.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: xccam on 31 July 2018, 01:58:11 PM
The entries are fantastic, and I don't think there's a single category with a clear "winner" to my mind.

Very hard decisions to make.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: ianrs54 on 31 July 2018, 03:05:24 PM

Some incredibly difficult choices to make, very soon !


But you are always sooooo decisive Phil  ;)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 31 July 2018, 03:29:37 PM
Some of the entries this lunchtime are superb! My pitiful attempts just got knocked out the park!  :'(  ;D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Womble67 on 31 July 2018, 03:33:29 PM
ok I've now added my few entries

I wish everybody all the best with the competition

Take care

Andy



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 July 2018, 03:38:36 PM
Some of the entries this lunchtime are superb! My pitiful attempts just got knocked out the park!  :'(  ;D

Absolutely nothing wrong with your stuff Will. Definitely things to be proud of!

Given that I haven't managed to get anything painted for months every entry is better than my efforts!! :)

All of the entries are wonderful.

In the true sense of inspiring wonder.

In my case the wonder is .... I wonder if my life will ever settle down enough to let me get some painting done! :D

"If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter,
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans." - Desiderata by Max Ehrmann


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: skinade on 31 July 2018, 06:22:19 PM
ay up all , just want to say that as a new member to this forum / competition the comradery is brilliant and i've been so excited in taking part . The skill , ideas and techniques shown in all the categories is outstanding . Who to vote for is going to be very difficult so GOOD LUCK to all . And thanks leon for your photo wizardry . ade


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 31 July 2018, 06:24:00 PM
ay up all , just want to say that as a new member to this forum / competition the comradery is brilliant and i've been so excited in taking part . The skill , ideas and techniques shown in all the categories is outstanding . Who to vote for is going to be very difficult so GOOD LUCK to all . And thanks leon for your photo wizardry . ade

Glad you've enjoyed it Ade and no worries on the pics.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fred. on 31 July 2018, 07:22:10 PM
Forbes! Will you stop putting in blindingly good entries!  :D ;D

Sorry mate,  :P


I think mine are put to shame by plenty of the others though. No surprise to see many entries using the LoA range.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: TinyTinTroops on 31 July 2018, 07:54:37 PM
Finally managed to get my stuff finished and posted.

The painting was fun but I hate photography - which is probably why I can't do it well.

Some brilliant stuff this time round. Good to see that it isn't just the usual suspects that are having a go - and doing well too !!!


Tony of TTT



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Oscarthehound on 31 July 2018, 07:54:48 PM
ay up all , just want to say that as a new member to this forum / competition the comradery is brilliant and i've been so excited in taking part . The skill , ideas and techniques shown in all the categories is outstanding . Who to vote for is going to be very difficult so GOOD LUCK to all . And thanks leon for your photo wizardry . ade

Same here... new member (long time lurker)...  really glad to take part and there some really amazing entries... so good luck to all!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Westmarcher on 31 July 2018, 08:11:15 PM
Oh, the irony! This painting competition has indirectly added to my painting list. Not for the competition itself - when picking up another unit (not the one I entered), I accidentally snapped off one of the figures at the knees! D'Oh! ....  ;D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 31 July 2018, 08:23:55 PM
Pics taken and submitted :). Some simply stunning work on show which is going to make it damned hard to judge!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Martin1914 on 31 July 2018, 09:54:25 PM
Leon you've done something to my photos...…………….much obliged!!

Good luck in the competition everyone.

Regards
Mart


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: skinade on 31 July 2018, 10:10:44 PM
ay up all ,as a newby how do i get vote/judge when its time ?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 31 July 2018, 10:14:00 PM
Some excellent work this year, and only 2 hours left for entries!

Leon you've done something to my photos...…………….much obliged!!

I've reduced the size of some of the entries, sometimes the photo hosting or blog software sets them as 1000+ pixels and they go off the screen or blow up too large.  I've tried to get them to a nice size which shows off the painting to its best.

ay up all ,as a newby how do i get vote/judge when its time ?

The deadline for entries is midnight tonight and then the voting threads will appear tomorrow afternoon, around 3pm.  Everyone is allowed 3 votes per category (choose your 3 favourites) and the voting will run for 7 days, closing at approximately 3pm next Wednesday (8th August).


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 31 July 2018, 10:48:49 PM
Just managed to get something in the Single base category, didn't think i would get that finished! Really my last entry now!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 01 August 2018, 01:41:16 AM
And that's it, thanks to everyone who has entered this year's competition!  The voting threads will be open from 3pm on Wednesday 1st August and will run for 1 week, closing at 3pm on Wednesday 8th.  Everyone will be allowed 3 votes per category so you can choose your 3 favourite entries and winners will be revealed as soon as the voting ends!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 01 August 2018, 03:24:47 PM
Voting is now open folks so you've got until 3pm on Wednesday 8th August to place your votes!

 8)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: barbarian on 01 August 2018, 04:22:02 PM
I want to vote for Skinade Panzer IV but I really don't understand from which hacth the second tankist is coming from ?
Any bigger pictures somewhere ? I supposed it is the lateral turret hatch but something is bothering me.
Superb painting.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 01 August 2018, 04:33:32 PM
I want to vote for Skinade Panzer IV but I really don't understand from which hacth the second tankist is coming from ?
Any bigger pictures somewhere ? I supposed it is the lateral turret hatch but something is bothering me.
Superb painting.

I think it's the lateral hatch as well, but I'd guess he's had to place the tank commander figure on the hull otherwise it would look odd at an angle?  I don't have other pics of the entry, but there's a bigger model which shows the lateral hatch and the hinged turret shield:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61ppUchQm8L._SL1000_.jpg)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Dazza on 01 August 2018, 04:43:26 PM
I want to vote for Skinade Panzer IV but I really don't understand from which hacth the second tankist is coming from ?
Any bigger pictures somewhere ? I supposed it is the lateral turret hatch but something is bothering me.
Superb painting.

Leon beat me to it, but this model shows it all opened up,  :

(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/missinglynx/imageproxy.php?url=http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/dkchase/DSC00071.jpg)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: barbarian on 01 August 2018, 05:01:24 PM
Thanks.

I voted.

It was really hard on the pre-20th foot and full army category.

I can't predict the winners.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Westmarcher on 01 August 2018, 05:14:28 PM
Have now voted on all categories except 20th Century Foot because Ironduke's photos appear to be missing - will wait until either these appear (or withdrawn?). Not easy, at all! A pity I could not vote for many deserving efforts. I initially thought 3 votes per category was too much but actually, double that amount votes per category would still not do the entries justice in many of the categories! Well done, everyone!  =D>


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: xccam on 01 August 2018, 05:18:56 PM
because Ironduke's photos appear to be missing
They are there for me I think?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 01 August 2018, 05:44:44 PM
Have now voted on all categories except 20th Century Foot because Ironduke's photos appear to be missing - will wait until either these appear (or withdrawn?)

I'm not sure why they're not showing for you there, they're fine at this end?  I uploaded Ironduke's to our own Flickr account so the link/hosting should be fine.  Are his other entries in other categories showing for you?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Westmarcher on 01 August 2018, 05:51:19 PM
Now there for me, also (heh! what's going on?)  :o   Definitely not available for me to view earlier (I'll check the other cats & if any problem found I'll flag it) :-\

Have now voted, thanks.  :-bd


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Terry37 on 01 August 2018, 05:53:49 PM
As I do in elections (so I can have a legitimate voice, and more importantly because so many have truly sacrificed so I can) I have submitted my votes. I must say that it is not easy, and it sure would have been better if we had gone with the 25 votes per category!!! ;D

I want to say again, this is a really awesome thing that Leon and the Pendraken crew do for us. I also think there can be no losers in an event like this as just getting to participate makes you a winner.

Terry


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Geiss on 01 August 2018, 06:46:46 PM
It was really hard on the pre-20th foot and full army category.

I found those ones particularly difficult to vote on too! So much quality.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Nick the Lemming on 01 August 2018, 07:05:12 PM
I found those ones particularly difficult to vote on too! So much quality.

All of them were difficult (except the sci-fi / fantasy ones, not interested in that category at all), but especially the full army one. I narrowed it down to about 6 that I that were amazing, then had a real hard time dropping three of them.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 01 August 2018, 07:42:49 PM
Done!Onlythe army category was hard for me, the rest pretty easy!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 01 August 2018, 08:05:57 PM
It was, Peter ? ;)

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 01 August 2018, 08:41:48 PM
I want to say again, this is a really awesome thing that Leon and the Pendraken crew do for us. I also think there can be no losers in an event like this as just getting to participate makes you a winner.

No worries Terry, glag you enjoyed it.  It's something we really like doing as well, for several reasons; we get to see loads of our little men looking their best, it motivates folks to get some of their lead mountain painted, it inspires others to try a new technique or a new style of basing, it's good visibility for the scale and our products in particular, and finally just because it's fun!

 8)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fsn on 01 August 2018, 09:20:01 PM
Whew! That was difficult.

Well done  everyone who entered, and thank you Leon.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 01 August 2018, 09:44:54 PM
Well done  everyone who entered, and thank you Leon.

Well said, Nobby.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil (I've done my votes, too.)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: SV52 on 01 August 2018, 10:22:56 PM
A lot of incredible work went into the summissions and to the organizing of the event.  A well deserved round of applause for all concerned  =D> 

The votes are more or less immaterial. 

Hopefully the boys in Pendraken Towers will spread the word wide around the toy soldier community in general.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 01 August 2018, 10:39:31 PM
Whew! That was difficult.

Well done everyone who entered, and thank you Leon.

Very well said Nobby


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Tarty on 01 August 2018, 11:30:58 PM
Hard decisions this time around some great work here.... amazing  =D>


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 02 August 2018, 12:01:10 AM
As a 1st timer, voting is strange! Difficult to decide whether to pick pieces for technical achievement...whether I would like to use them on a table...or just 'cos I likes 'em!   :o
Dashed Good Show chaps!  ;)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 02 August 2018, 04:56:53 AM
It was, Peter ? ;)

Cheers - Phil

Yes, just pick those that pop out right away. I don't look at the list over and over again, so doubt doesn't settle in!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Big Gazza on 02 August 2018, 08:52:53 AM
Some really stunning pieces have been put forward for the painting competition, well done to everyone. I will look forward to seeing the results.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Womble67 on 02 August 2018, 09:29:21 AM
Hi all well once again the painting standards are absolutely brilliant, however there is a downside to that it makes it really hard to cast your votes.

So once again I wish everybody good luck for the competition

I'm thank you to Leon for putting it on

Take care

Andy


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 02 August 2018, 09:57:44 AM
..... however there is a downside to that it makes it really hard to cast your votes.
Andy

I should say so, Andy !!......Stroll on !!

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 02 August 2018, 10:06:36 AM
It's almost impossible separating some of the entries. In the Army and pre-20thC Foot categories, it was hard getting it down to six votes, talk less of three! Good luck to all involved.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 02 August 2018, 11:26:30 AM
It's almost impossible separating some of the entries. In the Army and pre-20thC Foot categories, it was hard getting it down to six votes, talk less of three! Good luck to all involved.

Steve.....You basically took the words right 'out of my mouth'.....Unbelievable entries !.....I'm so jealous !
(Thank "blank" .....That I'm not just one of five or so folk who have had to 'decide' each category in previous years......and that all the forum's members have a chance to have their say.)

Good luck, all.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mollinary on 02 August 2018, 11:33:36 AM
I found it quite easy, in most cases, to pick my favourite, but numbers two and three were much, much, harder.  Very high standard this year.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: barbarian on 02 August 2018, 12:20:21 PM
I'd like to add sometimes that a poor photographic job isn't helping. Some entries could be nice but I can't really see. Or worst, between two similar level entries, one is on a nice background and well lit, the other isn't.

Ideally (not possible with an internet contest), all entries should be photographed by the same person, on the same background and with the same lights.

In the end, to make things even worst, some units have a lower technical level of painting but the overall look of the unit is really good (thanks to composition, basing...). How to decide ?

I went with my guts most of the time, without worrying too much about all this, so I guess in some cases, I would have vote for some others entries if I were to hold them in hand.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 02 August 2018, 12:49:30 PM
Without giving too much away, it's looking very tight in some of the categories after our first 24 hours of voting!  We're starting to see 1 or 2 entries gain a lead in some categories, but the Open - Army in particular has got 6 entries all within 1-2 votes of each other at the moment.  It'll be interesting to see who manages to pull away and grab 1st place.

I'll be away to Claymore on Friday morning as well, so I won't be able to check how it's going until I get back late on Saturday night.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: ronan on 02 August 2018, 01:40:20 PM
I'd like to add sometimes that a poor photographic job isn't helping. (...)
I went with my guts most of the time, without worrying too much about all this, so I guess in some cases, I would have vote for some others entries if I were to hold them in hand.

I do agree !

( Very, very nice jobs were done !   =D>  )


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 02 August 2018, 03:11:23 PM
Same here. Particularly annoying that my phone takes much sharper photos than my camera, but will not let me load them on to my computer. Having said that, it is clear that a goodly number of entrants have a much steadier hand than I do and deserve the plaudits for their work.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: OldenBUA on 02 August 2018, 03:30:11 PM
Yesterday afternoon I put in my votes quite quickly, mostly based on what grabs me in an entry. Technical skill is only a part of that. It's also about composition, choice of palette and subject matter. So my votes may differ significantly from others. I don't think that there is anything wrong with this, as they are my personal votes. But you wouldn't want me as one of the judges for a painting competition.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: ronan on 02 August 2018, 03:41:24 PM
Same here. Particularly annoying that my phone takes much sharper photos than my camera, but will not let me load them on to my computer.  (...)

Did tou try to send them as e-mail  ? ( I used to do this with my previous phone ..)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Felster on 02 August 2018, 03:57:24 PM
Votes in - phew!

Can we pin the winners in each category down and demand they share their painting secrets?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: d_Guy on 02 August 2018, 04:26:26 PM
So my votes may differ significantly from others.

We share many the same criteria. While I appreciate great technical skill in painting (envy may be a better word) the composition and basing details attract me more. I like figures and vehicles that have clever modifications done, I like painting schemes that creatively balance bright colours with realistic look. Most importantly I like pieces (individual or army) that make an attempt at story-telling or at least pose the question, “what’s going on here?”

Poor photography that may obscure sublime painting skill does not hide the creativity mentioned above.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 02 August 2018, 05:22:22 PM
Well that was considerably trickier than anticipated. The pre-C20th foot was particularly difficult, but now done. It will be very interesting to see the results. Ironic that while all this has been going on I have been busily painting 15mm WWI Germans, but the painting comp landed mid-project and I am determined to complete it an be playing 1914 in September.

I agree with the sentiment that it would be nice if winners would pass on some tips.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: skinade on 02 August 2018, 06:14:42 PM
I want to vote for Skinade Panzer IV but I really don't understand from which hacth the second tankist is coming from ?
Any bigger pictures somewhere ? I supposed it is the lateral turret hatch but something is bothering me.
Superb painting.
thanks for wanting to vote for my entry.the chap hanging out the side is the gun loader (i think) from the side turret hatch.Its a shame that we can only enter 2 pics because a close up would show the hatch doors open as well as the skirt doors.I must add that my camera skills are 1 in a million - not


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: barbarian on 02 August 2018, 06:17:24 PM
I voted for you none the less. I suspected you knew what you were doing.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Shutuphippie on 02 August 2018, 06:23:44 PM
Votes cast..... there was some really great painting on display and quite challenging to pick my favourites in some categories

Good luck to Wveryone  who entered

I’m feeling quite inspired by some of the work on show and will be ‘borrowing’ some painting ideas 😁😁😁


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 02 August 2018, 07:39:07 PM
Sitting on the seashore at Southwold reading these comments.
Having already voted, I went with my gut, what looked great, ignoring backgrounds et al.
But that said, some brilliant entries that put my pitiful entries to shame! ;)
I live the painting comp as it allows lots if different people to show off their best ideas, and the variety always astounds me.
Thank you to the team fir putting on an official version this year. Means I don't have to organise...


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 02 August 2018, 08:59:17 PM
Votes in - phew!

Can we pin the winners in each category down and demand they share their painting secrets?

I would suggest asking about particular effects you like, in most cases I’m sure the member would be happy to share

There seem to be so many different approaches to painting that general advice can be counter productive


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: skinade on 03 August 2018, 09:17:53 PM
I think it's the lateral hatch as well, but I'd guess he's had to place the tank commander figure on the hull otherwise it would look odd at an angle?  I don't have other pics of the entry, but there's a bigger model which shows the lateral hatch and the hinged turret shield:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61ppUchQm8L._SL1000_.jpg)
i've got alot more pics of my entry that i'll post up somewhere on the pendraken gubbins after the results . that 2 pic rule i understand but aaagh . a figure/figures have front and back(and sides) . vehicles/command stands/artillery etc have front/side/rear/side/top . its very hard to show the finished article with 2 photos especialy when you have the camera skills of a brick like me


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: clawlessdragon on 04 August 2018, 11:37:14 AM
Votes are in. As a new member and first timer this was fun to enter and cast vote on everyone else's entry. As a fantasy guy, it was refreshing to view all the historical entries, and marvel at the amount of detail achieved at such a small scale. Good luck everyone, and thanks Leon for all your extra time and efforts to run this.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 04 August 2018, 11:37:53 PM
I've just got back from Claymore and had a quick look at the current votes and it's still tight!  Mounted, Vehicle and Army have all got at least 3 entries fighting it out for the lead so we'll have to see what happens over the next few days.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Geiss on 05 August 2018, 10:43:22 PM
I've just got back from Claymore and had a quick look at the current votes and it's still tight!  Mounted, Vehicle and Army have all got at least 3 entries fighting it out for the lead so we'll have to see what happens over the next few days.

You tease!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Redstef on 05 August 2018, 10:55:10 PM
finally made my mind up on all category's. Once again a high standard from everyone and a few ideas I can nick  :D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: xccam on 05 August 2018, 11:30:19 PM
I've just got back from Claymore and had a quick look at the current votes and it's still tight!  Mounted, Vehicle and Army have all got at least 3 entries fighting it out for the lead so we'll have to see what happens over the next few days.
Would be interested to know, without giving anything away, how many votes separate 1st from 3rd.

winners will be very deserved though!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 06 August 2018, 08:31:41 AM
Hi xccam...I think you should be able to see the state of voting if you go back to the individual voting threads. (Where you voted for your 3 faves.)

I don't believe that I can see them just 'cos I'm a moderator....(Though I'm not totally convinced.) :-\

Give it a whirl...and hopefully you'll see just how close it is.

Cheers - Phil

 


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 06 August 2018, 09:03:39 AM
You can see them because your a board moderator, the rest of us cannot.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: ianrs54 on 06 August 2018, 09:24:28 AM
But Will you is a moderator...


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 06 August 2018, 10:10:36 AM
No....Not on that board, Ian.

Sorry....My mistake !! :-[

Cheers -  A Numpty.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 06 August 2018, 10:25:00 AM
Polls appear to have three options for showing votes that can be set when the poll is created:
  • Show the poll's results to anyone.
  • Only show the results after someone has voted.
  • Only show the results after the poll has expired.

Appropriate Moderators may be able to override these


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 06 August 2018, 11:29:54 AM
Yup, I'm only a limited moderator


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 06 August 2018, 11:47:24 AM
Yep, results are hidden until the poll finishes, I thought it was a bit more fun that way!

Would be interested to know, without giving anything away, how many votes separate 1st from 3rd.

In the Mounted and Army categories there are 2 votes between 1st and 3rd, in the Vehicles it's 4 votes.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: xccam on 06 August 2018, 12:17:53 PM
Blimey that's close!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 06 August 2018, 12:51:27 PM
I'm SO glad I kept my gob shut !!  X_X

Cheers - Phil



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Terry37 on 06 August 2018, 06:09:25 PM
Soon we will all know, and when you hear the drum roll just be ready, and then listen for the fat lady to sing!!!!!  :)

Terry


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 06 August 2018, 09:01:40 PM
In the Mounted and Army categories there are 2 votes between 1st and 3rd, in the Vehicles it's 4 votes.

 :o :o That is really close


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Oscarthehound on 06 August 2018, 10:03:08 PM
Well... voted now. That was difficult! Some seriously good work on show- well done everyone really I guess- and big thanks to Leon for organising etc.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: ianrs54 on 07 August 2018, 08:04:37 AM
Yup, I'm limited

We already knew that !!!  ;)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Norm on 07 August 2018, 09:38:24 AM
All I can say is well done everyone, this has been a really tough vote.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Matt J on 07 August 2018, 09:43:46 AM
First chance I've had to have a real good look, some excellent work on display  :-bd

(I think we should go back to Phil et al having all the stress of judging though  ;))


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 07 August 2018, 10:12:21 AM
I don't !  :P ;)

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Sandinista on 08 August 2018, 05:33:04 AM
The standard is even higher this year, I'm very impressed

Cheers
Ian


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: ianrs54 on 08 August 2018, 08:21:22 AM
I don't !  :P ;)

Cheers - Phil

Your opinion don't count.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 August 2018, 08:32:05 AM
Do anyone's?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Orcs on 08 August 2018, 12:18:58 PM
A very high standard - I normally don't look as it puts my painting to shame.

I have voted and tried not to vote for anyone more than once in the entire competition. Did not quite do this as some of the entries were outstanding.

I was intrigued by the "Hedge Army"  this was a very versatile entry being able to be used for virtually all periods and locations - Obviously there are exceptions.  I suspect the owner was "hedging his bets" on winning.

However I did find the "uniform" a bit dull.  I also thought one of them appeared a bit gnawed and had some drool on it.  :)

  



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 August 2018, 12:33:41 PM
Suspect the owner his hiding hid talents under a bush, Al?
Oh, my coat, thanks, I shall wear it while the countdown continues!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 08 August 2018, 12:46:11 PM
Only 2 hours left now and it's still tight in some categories!

- Pre-20th Foot has got 3 entries all tied for 2nd place...
- Mounted there's only 1 vote between 1st and 2nd...
- Vehicle there's only 2 votes between 1st and 2nd...
- Army there's only 1 vote between 1st and 2nd...

 :o


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 08 August 2018, 12:52:26 PM
I wonder if anything will change in the next two and a bit hours.  :-\ (I've just had a peek.  :D) Bloomin' heck it's close !

An exceptional competition, regarding the standard of the entries.
 =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> To the whole lot of you !!

Cheers - (A very impressed) Phil




Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 August 2018, 01:01:36 PM
Teases!
Both of you!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 08 August 2018, 01:48:06 PM
I shall have to wait until later to see the results as I will be away from my computer :(. The standard has been so high this year it's hard to separate so many wonderful entries!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 02:59:38 PM
let's start the drumm roll  :D :D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 03:13:16 PM
Some unexpected winners, but most of the ones i voted for are 'at the top'!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 08 August 2018, 04:14:56 PM
I find it interesting to see what other forum members voted for compared to my choices.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 08 August 2018, 04:37:44 PM
Some unexpected winners, but most of the ones i voted for are 'at the top'!

Unexpected ?.....Dunno....But I think throwing the voting open to all the members of the forum, is a very fair way of doing this.

But like you, most of the ones I voted for came first or second....(I can see the votes....So in a lot of cases, my three votes went to the top three)..... Not in every category, though....
But those were the ones I could have done with a lot more than 3 votes !  ;)....They were all SO close.

We've got VERY deserved 'placed' entries, though....Congrats to them, again.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mollinary on 08 August 2018, 04:46:20 PM
A rather off the wall comment, for those in power to consider or discard as they see fit!   As I tried to vote, I found my judgement being affected by a number of extraneous factors, like the number of figures being shown, and the quality of sculpting on the miniature chosen. Pendraken have been in production for so long now that there is a considerable difference in quality between many early sculpts, and the latest offerings. Perhaps there could be a new category next year, where entrants were 8nvited to produce a set number of a particular figure code, on a base of a set size.  It would be rather like Formula 1, but with everyone starting with exactly the same car.  And we judges would be able to concentrate on the painting and basing alone, without distraction.  Just a thought.  :-


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 August 2018, 05:03:50 PM
Just looked at where my votes fell:
Two winners, everything else failed to place, completely!
Says a lot about my taste then!!!!
Considering I only really had two votes per category (well, I've got to vote for myself, otherwise I would get no votes), I honestly went with what appeals most to me.
For instance, the plane, that got my vote. It was different, and brilliantly done.
I nearly voted for FSNs hedges as I really liked them, but there were other things I liked more


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 08 August 2018, 05:12:16 PM
Perhaps there could be a new category next year, where entrants were 8nvited to produce a set number of a particular figure code, on a base of a set size.  It would be rather like Formula 1, but with everyone starting with exactly the same car.  And we judges would be able to concentrate on the painting and basing alone, without distraction.

That's not a bad idea and something we could look at doing.  We could produce a small set of figures (5-10 maybe) that could be assembled into a mini-diorama, supply a base for them as well, and then pop it on the website in the run-up to the next competition.  As you say, folks would then have the same items to work with and the end pieces could be judged depending on what each person did with them.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: fsn on 08 August 2018, 05:32:14 PM
That's not a bad idea and something we could look at doing.  We could produce a small set of figures (5-10 maybe) that could be assembled into a mini-diorama, supply a base for them as well, and then pop it on the website in the run-up to the next competition.  As you say, folks would then have the same items to work with and the end pieces could be judged depending on what each person did with them.
I like that idea. Be interesting to see the different techniques in action.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 August 2018, 05:46:07 PM
Ho hum, guess I'll have to use my hard earned cash to buy Korean War stuff instead! ;D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 06:43:15 PM
Just looked at where my votes fell:
Two winners, everything else failed to place, completely!
Says a lot about my taste then!!!!

Well my votes mostly went to second places. The only 1st places i voted for were the winged hussars and william of orange. I got about 80% of the second places though.

The main thing is, i think i really like 'darker' styles of painting more. Over the years, i have seen that the winners are mostly among the 'more highlighted' styles. They are well done, but not always my cup of tea. Judging by your painting style Will, i'm guessing you are in the same boat as me with your votes.

Also, Looking at D'Hautpols army entries, i wonder, had he only chosen one of his two armies, would he have won the army category? I was a bit torn between both his armies, with one vote left .  Like Leon said in the winners thread for the army category: "First place had a clear winner here and then we had DHautpol fighting it out with himself for 2nd and 3rd!" .  

That's the problem with more than one entry, you divide your own votes! This is not to say that Rupert of Hentzau's army is an undeserved winner of course! Just purely some musing about the competition. (i was going to vote on his army as well, but i just liked the nametags on PAulr's army better so choose him)

Considering I only really had two votes per category (well, I've got to vote for myself, otherwise I would get no votes), I honestly went with what appeals most to me.
For instance, the plane, that got my vote. It was different, and brilliantly done.
I nearly voted for FSNs hedges as I really liked them, but there were other things I liked more

You voted for yourself?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Ob7p7lDT99cd2/giphy.gif)

I voted for your dragon by the way. You Need to be more confident about your own stuff ;)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 08 August 2018, 06:52:13 PM
An interesting point about everyone starting with the same figures etc. It's interesting to note that there were a lot of LoA entries, most probably because the figures are superbly sculpted and have a good variety of poses, which makes them easier to paint IMHO. Ditto the AWI range. Allied WWII vehicles for NWE I think suffer next to German ones painted in 3 tone or ambush camo schemes as they simply look rather dull in comparison. Again Brits in khaki don't jump out compared to German camo smocks.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Steve J on 08 August 2018, 06:55:05 PM
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For instance, the plane, that got my vote. It was different, and brilliantly done.

Thanks for the kind comments Will :)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 06:56:03 PM
Allied WWII vehicles for NWE I think suffer next to German ones painted in 3 tone or ambush camo schemes as they simply look rather dull in comparison. Again Brits in khaki don't jump out compared to German camo smocks.

I know what you mean, but on the other hand, camo can look sloppy pretty quickly. Maybe it's a risk/reward thing?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 August 2018, 07:21:56 PM
Please remember, I have no sour grapes, just jealous of the excellence out there!
Hoped my Steamroller was different enough to win. Oh well!  :P


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Matt J on 08 August 2018, 07:25:18 PM
Some interesting comments made particularly about the sculpts.

If I was to enter with a view to try and win I'd select one of Clib's ranges (and have done), yes the sculpting is excellent but so are many of the ranges done by Phil and the other sculptors, the big difference is size. Clib's are easily 20% bigger in scale than Phil's for example, bigger scale more detail, more opportunity to display ability. Then the increased number of poses also makes any base more dynamic.
and always, always only enter once per category!

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Allied WWII vehicles for NWE I think suffer next to German ones painted in 3 tone or ambush camo schemes as they simply look rather dull in comparison. Again Brits in khaki don't jump out compared to German camo smocks.

True but its a painting competition, historical accuracy isn't relevant (or shouldn't be!).

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That's not a bad idea and something we could look at doing.  We could produce a small set of figures (5-10 maybe) that could be assembled into a mini-diorama, supply a base for them as well, and then pop it on the website in the run-up to the next competition.  As you say, folks would then have the same items to work with and the end pieces could be judged depending on what each person did with them.

This idea I like!  :D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 07:27:37 PM
No sour grapes at all. Deserved winners. But it is interesting that we get to see the votes. Lots of entries with a fair amount of votes. Proves once again that tastes differ. (Wich is a good thing)


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 August 2018, 07:31:42 PM
You voted for yourself?
Of course. Wouldn't you? ;)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Ob7p7lDT99cd2/giphy.gif)
*hangs head, apples sackcloth and ashes
I voted for your dragon by the way. You Need to be more confident about your own stuff ;)
Awww thanks, appreciate it!   :-[



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 07:51:30 PM
Nope i wouldn't vote on myself. I only vote on the good entries  ;D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 07:57:45 PM
Some interesting comments made particularly about the sculpts.

If I was to enter with a view to try and win I'd select one of Clib's ranges (and have done), yes the sculpting is excellent but so are many of the ranges done by Phil and the other sculptors, the big difference is size. Clib's are easily 20% bigger in scale than Phil's for example, bigger scale more detail, more opportunity to display ability. Then the increased number of poses also makes any base more dynamic.
and always, always only enter once per category!


So i can blame Phil for my failure? COOL  ;D   ;D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Matt J on 08 August 2018, 07:58:41 PM
Yep  :D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Matt J on 08 August 2018, 08:17:26 PM
Don't get me wrong, Phil's stuff is brilliant and very detailed and researched (just painted some ancient spanish - hanging rings on back of Caetra!) But they are dead on 10mm and show proper human proportions.
Clib's are amazing, detailed and also a joy to paint but are probably knocking on 12mm and are more in style of modern wargame sculpts which allows for more room for detail.
Also Clib's ranges have several sculpts will Phil will have 2 at best because Leon is tight  :D.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion
Post by: mollinary on 08 August 2018, 08:26:16 PM
I am not trying to rank sculptors, merely painters. It is a painting competition after all. If everyone had to paint the same figures, one would have a better opportunity to rate simply the painters’ skills, rather than those combined with your own interpretation of  those of the sculptor. I am not trying to sow confusion (honest!),but simply to reduce the competition to something which focuses solely on the skills of the painter. Leon’s Idea of having a set of figures produced solely for the competition is brilliant, and opens up the possibility a new route to vignettes which otherwise might never make the casting queue. 


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: SV52 on 08 August 2018, 08:28:22 PM
The idea of set figures is interesting but may lack appeal if set in only one period.  I can't see an ancients enthusiast choosing to work on WW2 and vice versa.  It could end up a closed competition for many.  

Also as has been said, some of the figure ranges have been around for ages and no way match the splendour of the current crop, closes down the competition again.

Just saying.

Perhaps limiting the number of entries per head to one per category; if they are in the army section, same figures can't appear anywhere else.  Produce more variety?....discuss... :D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 August 2018, 08:35:51 PM
Easy answer!
Seriously,  we have five mixed figures.
 Ww2 infantry, ancient Greek, awi infantry, all turned to stone by a fantasy medusa, with a hummer parked next to it. Covers all the bases, literally!!! ;D


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 08:41:52 PM
You forgot mounted!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mollinary on 08 August 2018, 08:46:36 PM
Perhaps one set for each category? Votes for preferred set, only the most popular produced if a minimum commitment to buying a set is reached. The incentive of them being in the competition might spur us all on.  I know I would love an ECW vignette!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 08:54:49 PM
Don't get me wrong, Phil's stuff is brilliant and very detailed and researched (just painted some ancient spanish - hanging rings on back of Caetra!) But they are dead on 10mm and show proper human proportions.
Clib's are amazing, detailed and also a joy to paint but are probably knocking on 12mm and are more in style of modern wargame sculpts which allows for more room for detail.
Also Clib's ranges have several sculpts will Phil will have 2 at best because Leon is tight  :D.

No need to preach to me , just recceived an army of Phil's carthaginians with some spanish allies (heavy cavalry and celtiberians) and an army of republican romans.  ;)

Great sculpts! Will enjoy painting those!



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Nick the Lemming on 08 August 2018, 08:58:51 PM
Perhaps one set for each category? Votes for preferred set, only the most popular produced if a minimum commitment to buying a set is reached. The incentive of them being in the competition might spur us all on.  I know I would love an ECW vignette!


That's a great idea. Little vignette scene for each of several categories (you could change them around each year too, so a WW2 German HQ one year, a WW2 British artillery HQ another year, some dug in WW2 desert Italians in a third year, etc). Packs with half a dozen to a dozen figures or so in them that could easily be used to enhance existing ranges so they'd sell outside of that competition too. Could even do some (like the ECW personalities pack / civilians pack) that would be perfect for objective markers too.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leman on 08 August 2018, 09:17:31 PM
It always seems to come down to WWII, and I just don’t get it. Does someone have a massive stock of khaki, olive and grey paint to get rid of?


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: skinade on 08 August 2018, 09:32:28 PM
That's a great idea. Little vignette scene for each of several categories (you could change them around each year too, so a WW2 German HQ one year, a WW2 British artillery HQ another year, some dug in WW2 desert Italians in a third year, etc). Packs with half a dozen to a dozen figures or so in them that could easily be used to enhance existing ranges so they'd sell outside of that competition too. Could even do some (like the ECW personalities pack / civilians pack) that would be perfect for objective markers too.
ay up, i've been trying to reply to the idea of a given set of figs but my computer might be oopsing


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Nick the Lemming on 08 August 2018, 09:37:17 PM
It always seems to come down to WWII, and I just don’t get it. Does someone have a massive stock of khaki, olive and grey paint to get rid of?

I just grabbed that as an example, since there's a WW2+ category. For earlier periods you could have an ECW vignette like the one with the preacher, a Roman testudo, an Egyptian chariot with a broken wheel, an Indian elephant with howdah and skirmishing footmen accompanying, an Austrian Napoleonic grenadiers storming a bastion, etc. 


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: skinade on 08 August 2018, 09:39:05 PM
ay up and now then , how exciting would it be to get a bag of goodies from pendraken not knowing whats in it (just figs/vehicles etc) for cash . Let pendraken decide what we get , same time , same post.very level painting field


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: skinade on 08 August 2018, 09:52:35 PM
ay up and change of subject . on-line crit of entries . them fantasy elves , wow , colours or what , both figures and base . And giess ww1 tank ,the mud and slush - yep


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: xccam on 08 August 2018, 10:13:06 PM
Not sure having 15 identical entries in each category will be as much fun as painting, and viewing, the varied collection from the 3,700 sculpt range Pendraken have. I thought it was great to see all the different sculpts chosen.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Ithoriel on 08 August 2018, 10:36:09 PM
Frankly, I find it hard enough to make the time and find the mojo to paint stuff I want to paint. The idea of painting something that's just for the competition ... ugh!

Some very worthy winners this year and many others shaded out by the narrowest margins and all of the entries are ones that the competitors can be proud of ... yes, fsn, even the hedges !



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Leon on 08 August 2018, 10:40:20 PM
I don't think we'd be looking to put together a pack for each category, it would probably be easier to have a new category just for these special packs.  I don't know at this point whether it would be new sculpts or existing ones, but we could try it for the 2019 competition as an experiment to see what the uptake was like.  We'd pick out a selection of sculpts from a range and put them into a pack that we'd sell on the site for £1-£2.  

We could then do a different period each year, either using a recent range release or having a vote each year on what range people would like to see.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 10:48:31 PM
I don't think we'd be looking to put together a pack for each category, it would probably be easier to have a new category just for these special packs.  I don't know at this point whether it would be new sculpts or existing ones, but we could try it for the 2019 competition as an experiment to see what the uptake was like.  We'd pick out a selection of sculpts from a range and put them into a pack that we'd sell on the site for £1-£2.  

We could then do a different period each year, either using a recent range release or having a vote each year on what range people would like to see.

A new category would be best i think. Just being honest here, if it was something that didn't interest me, or that i couldn't use in a game, i wouldn't buy it just for being able to enter. One of the main things that makes the competition so good, is being able to enter something that you painted over the year. Not everyone can paint at the same pace or has the same amount of time!



Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: SV52 on 08 August 2018, 11:00:19 PM
A new category would be best i think. Just being honest here, if it was something that didn't interest me, or that i couldn't use in a game, i wouldn't buy it just for being able to enter. One of the main things that makes the competition so good, is being able to enter something that you painted over the year. Not everyone can paint at the same pace or has the same amount of time!



Kind of says it for me.


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: paulr on 09 August 2018, 02:56:21 AM
Thirded

I really enjoy the variety on show in the competition :) :)

We all struggled to allocate our votes this year, imagine how much harder it will be when all entries in the category are the same figures ~X( ~X( ~X(


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Techno on 09 August 2018, 06:44:08 AM
Don't get me wrong, Phil's stuff is brilliant and very detailed and researched (just painted some ancient spanish - hanging rings on back of Caetra!) But they are dead on 10mm and show proper human proportions.
Clib's are amazing, detailed and also a joy to paint but are probably knocking on 12mm and are more in style of modern wargame sculpts which allows for more room for detail.
Also Clib's ranges have several sculpts will Phil will have 2 at best because Leon is tight  :D.

Well, I'll be hornswoggled !...I didn't know that Clib's figures were a bit bigger.  :)

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: mad lemmey on 09 August 2018, 07:44:48 AM
Checks other members, nope, they're not up yet, ho hum, suppose id better do it!
Never mind Phil, size isn't everything!








Sorry.

Oi, who shrunk my coat!


Title: Re: Painting Competition Discussion thread!
Post by: Womble67 on 13 August 2018, 12:23:40 AM
First off a massive thanks to Leon for organising the competition.

Secondly thank you for everybody who voted for me to be honest I'm a little bit overwhelmed by it all

Thirdy sorry for my late reply as I've been on holiday for 10 days

Take care

Andy