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Title: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Leon on 09 September 2017, 03:55:24 PM
We previewed all of these last month and Dave's got them through the moulding process quickly and ready for release.  This lot covers a wide period of time, from the end of WWII right through to the 1980's in some cases.  We've got the Gorilla and the Duster, a few SPG's, a pair of APC's and a couple more Centurions as well!

We'll have some of these with us at the Colours show next weekend, but if you'd like to pre-order any for collection just drop us an email.

Modern Vehicles - https://pendraken.co.uk/modern/vehicles/
MDV48   M19 MGMC   £3.00
MDV49   M37 SPG   £3.00
MDV50   M41 'Gorilla'   £3.00
MDV51   M42 Duster   £3.50
MDV52   M53 SPG, 155mm Howitzer   £4.50
MDV53   M55 SPG, 203mm Howitzer   £4.50
MDV54   M59 APC   £3.50
MDV55   M75 APC   £3.50
MDV56   Centurion Mk 1   £4.50
MDV57   Centurion 'Conway', 120mm   £5.00
MDV58   Oxford Tracked Carrier   £2.80

And some pics:

MDV51 - M42 Duster
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/4093/MDV51.JPG)


MDV54 - M59 APC
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/4096/MDV54.JPG)


MDV53 - M55 SPG, 203mm Howitzer
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/4095/MDV53.JPG)


MDV56 - Centurion Mk 1
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/4098/MDV56.JPG)


MDV57 - Centurion Conway
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/4099/MDV57.JPG)

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Title: Re: 11 new Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 September 2017, 04:09:47 PM
What in the name of all that is holy is a Conway!!!
Good work on those!
Title: Re: 11 new Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Roy on 09 September 2017, 04:13:55 PM
Ooh, lots of lovelies on that webstore page.

Wish I'd known about the "seperate tracks for turrets" when I was converting my Panther/M10. Never mind  :(

(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/3931/MDV44.JPG)
Title: Re: 11 new Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 09 September 2017, 04:23:18 PM
Not a modern one amongst them, all at least 40 years old, some nearer 60......

IanS
Title: Re: 11 new Modern vehicles released!
Post by: mart678 on 09 September 2017, 05:35:08 PM
Lemmy the Conway is a 120mm armed Centurion which was not produced because of the Conqueror and the 105mm L7
As for not being Modern some of the vehicles above where still in service in the 80's
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 September 2017, 05:57:08 PM
Thanks Mart, now I feel a complete https://youtu.be/DplBTWAO0jg
Title: Re: 11 new Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Sunray on 09 September 2017, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 09 September 2017, 04:23:18 PM
Not a modern one amongst them, all at least 40 years old, some nearer 60......

IanS


To be pedantically accurate we could term them "post war".  As the first AFVs after WW2 they are often overlooked in wargames.  I see a lot of potential with the Korean era range in early NATO proxies.  We just need 1950s/early 60s Soviet infantry.   It gives an extended life to BKC rules.

The game changers in armoured warfare were (a) the wire guided missile, and (b) spaced armour such as  Chobham. They changed tactics and the deployment of armour/infantry defence.  Can we argue a post war parenthesis  prior to the adoption of these weapon systems ?

In the case of the Middle East, the innovative Sagger did not make an impact until Yom Kippur - but that's another story. 

Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: fsn on 09 September 2017, 06:40:44 PM
Another couple for the Centurion family!

All the goodies one needs fro the Korean War.

Now, if only there were some infantry?  :-\
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: fsn on 09 September 2017, 06:47:48 PM
As for them being modern, they're modern when compared to, say a Sumerian Ass Chariot.
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Steve J on 09 September 2017, 07:25:31 PM
Very nice work 8)
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Ithoriel on 09 September 2017, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: fsn on 09 September 2017, 06:47:48 PM
As for them being modern, they're modern when compared to, say a Sumerian Ass Chariot.

Wot!? The Sumerian Donkey Cart is surely at the cutting edge of modern military hardware!

Oh dear! Maybe time to paint some WW2 Germans before I'm wandering around the house in a sheepskin kilt and posting here in cuneiform! :)
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Roy on 10 September 2017, 11:17:01 AM
Does beg the question; what would an ass chariot look like? and, surely, it sounds like one for the fantasy range.

I have found a suitable picture - but forum rules explicitly forbid such unsightly depictions.
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Ithoriel on 10 September 2017, 12:39:22 PM
Quote from: RoyWilliamson on 10 September 2017, 11:17:01 AM
Does beg the question; what would an ass chariot look like? and, surely, it sounds like one for the fantasy range.

I have found a suitable picture - but forum rules explicitly forbid such unsightly depictions.

It looks like this :)
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 10 September 2017, 01:50:57 PM
Quote from: RoyWilliamson on 10 September 2017, 11:17:01 AM
Does beg the question; what would an ass chariot look like? and, surely, it sounds like one for the fantasy range.

I have found a suitable picture - but forum rules explicitly forbid such unsightly depictions.

Are you sure you're not thinking of an arse charriot? :-\

Over the years many vehicles have served the purpose, but the one thing they always have in common is a pair of furry dice hanging from the rear-view mirror...  X_X
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Roy on 10 September 2017, 02:40:04 PM
the picture of the ass chariot I found had two things dangling, and they did have some hairs on them, but they definitely weren't dice!  :-&

Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 10 September 2017, 01:50:57 PM
Are you sure you're not thinking of an arse charriot? (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/undecided.gif)

Might be  ;)

Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: d_Guy on 10 September 2017, 04:20:14 PM
Quote from: fsn on 09 September 2017, 06:47:48 PM
As for them being modern, they're modern when compared to, say a Sumerian Ass Chariot.

Not sure if that's true, old boy. Here is a recently discovered image:

(https://leadenshipsandtinmen.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/sumarian-ass-wagon.jpg)
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: fsn on 10 September 2017, 04:23:24 PM
 :o
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Ithoriel on 10 September 2017, 05:28:05 PM
Quote from: d_Guy on 10 September 2017, 04:20:14 PM
Not sure if that's true, old boy. Here is a recently discovered image:

(https://leadenshipsandtinmen.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/sumarian-ass-wagon.jpg)

:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Roy on 10 September 2017, 06:15:22 PM
And to get the onagers to go faster, all you had to do was dangle a carrot from the end of the gun barrel!
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 September 2017, 08:18:56 PM
And when will post-modern vehicles happen?
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: d_Guy on 10 September 2017, 08:56:55 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 10 September 2017, 08:18:56 PM
And when will post-modern vehicles happen?
When the modern ones are deconstructed.
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 September 2017, 11:27:13 PM
Do they get turned into little cubes? That was my impression.
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Roy on 11 September 2017, 09:42:52 AM
don't they term 1946-2000 'Modern'?

2000 and after 'Ultra Modern'?

I think there needs to be a new hobby label, myself, for post-WW2 to the late 90s warfare. Can't really label it Modern anymore.
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Sunray on 11 September 2017, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: RoyWilliamson on 11 September 2017, 09:42:52 AM
don't they term 1946-2000 'Modern'?

2000 and after 'Ultra Modern'?

I think there needs to be a new hobby label, myself, for post-WW2 to the late 90s warfare. Can't really label it Modern anymore.
I agree- the wire guided ATM and the spaced armour were the first game changers. The next quantum leap was thermal imaging. So we really have three discrete periods.
Early Cold War (BKC era rules ) , Late Cold War and Modern.

The Iraqi 12th Armoured did everything right (in terms of 1980s cold war tactics) but the Battle of 70-74Eastings is  a text book of innovation.  We learned that only a cold tank could survive.   Indeed US tanks barrelled past T55s that had cold engines !  Hull down is no longer enough.
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Roy on 11 September 2017, 06:36:30 PM
Always fancied collecting an Iraqi force for Desert Storm. I blame the photos of the GHQ micro armour box set.

Back to labelling. Team Yankee is labelled as World War 3, if I remember correctly. Which is preposterous to my mind. And it's other label of Cold War Gone Hot, is only marginally better. Would have been better to just call a spade a spade and label it 1980s Europe.
Title: Re: 11 new Post-War/Modern vehicles released!
Post by: Womble67 on 13 September 2017, 10:37:16 AM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy