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Title: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Leon on 22 July 2017, 11:07:37 PM
We are excited to announce that we've recently purchased the rights to all of the TB Line 10mm ranges, previously owned by Aster Wargame in Italy.  All of the moulds were shipped to Pendraken HQ this past week and we'll start checking them over soon.  We'd like to thank Corrado at Aster Wargame for offering us the opportunity to buy these ranges and for all of his time during the purchase process.

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Who are TB Line?
Tridente Bologna released their first 10mm ranges in 2008, starting with a range of Teutonic Knights.  Over the years they added Islamic and Eastern European opponents, plus some Mongols, as well as moving back into the Ancients period with ranges for the Punic Wars.  The ranges were unavailable for several periods of time in recent years, until 2016, when the ranges were sold to Aster Wargame in Italy and brought back into production.

How do they match up with Pendraken figures?
Very well, with only a minor difference in height among the foot figures and slightly bigger horses for the cavalry.  The horses are all separate castings which is a good thing for us as we might be able to use them in other ranges going forward.  Stylewise, they're again very similar to our newer ranges with a good level of detail on them.  The only noticeable difference so far is that the TB Line sculptor used a thicker wire for spears/javelins, which is more apparent on the web photos then on the castings.

What ranges will be available?
- Republican Romans (9 codes)
- Carthaginians (4 codes)
- Numidian (1 code)
- Iberians (4 codes)
- Epirotes (1 code)
- Italic (4 codes)
- Gauls (4 codes)
- Middle Age Europe (3 codes)
- Middle Age Eastern Europe (7 codes)
- Middle Ages Islam (8 codes)
- Teutonics (8 codes)
- Mongols (7 codes)

When will they be on sale again?
First we need to check everything over and catalogue all of the moulds to make sure they are all casting OK.  The moulds look to be in good condition, but they have all been made using a lower temperature rubber whcih doesn't usually have a long life span.  We'll be doing them in batches, so we should be able to add them to the website one range at a time.  The only delays to this process would be if we find any damaged moulds that need replacing. 

Will you be changing anything?
There's a few things we need to look at before considering any changes.  Firstly the command packs were previously only 3-man groups so we need to have a look at the moulds and see if we can change those to larger 15 or 30 figure packs to match in with our own ranges.  We'll also be having a good look at the pricing of them, as they were previously priced at 7.00 per 30 foot / 12 cavalry.  That equates to a little over 6.00 currently, so we'll be bringing that down to somewhere around 5.50 for 30 foot / 15 cavalry.

Will you be adding to these ranges in the future?
There are no plans for new figures/ranges in these lines at the moment.  The purchase of these ranges fills some useful gaps in the Pendraken ranges (Middle Ages Teutonics, Eastern Europe and Islamics) and adds some nice variety to our Ancients ranges as well, but any future sculpts would likely be done by our sculptors and added as Pendraken items.

What if I want some now?!
There is still some stock available from Aster Wargame in Italy: https://www.asterwargame.com/collections/tb-line  It wasn't viable to ship all of these blisters over to the UK, so it was easier for them to continue selling the remaining stock at their end.  Once they've sold out the codes will be removed from the Aster site and the figures will only be available through us here at Pendraken.

And that's everything!  If there's any questions please let us know and we'll look forward to getting these up for sale!

Here's a few images of the Middle East Islamics as well, just in case people haven't seen them before:

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Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: fred. on 22 July 2017, 11:11:10 PM
Great news.

These are cracking figures -  I have lots of the Islamic figures (the ones that make up many of the above photos).


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: mad lemmey on 22 July 2017, 11:41:52 PM
Cor blimey! Good effort chaps!


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 22 July 2017, 11:47:43 PM
Excellent news.

From my perspective  (and I'm assuming other non-Europeans) it also means that the postage that Aster was charging, 25.00, won't come into consideration now when I think about stocking up the lead mountain :D.

Looking forward to the release of the Eastern Europeans and the Islamics :D.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: FierceKitty on 23 July 2017, 02:38:36 AM
Good news. Those figures are very good, and I speak as one who's got a few.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: d_Guy on 23 July 2017, 04:52:58 AM
Yes - very interested in the Islamics as well. Need them for Tangier and as an Aztec anxiety assuagement :A-)


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: PB on 23 July 2017, 05:27:54 AM
These are a bit nice


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Norm on 23 July 2017, 06:10:49 AM
Congratulations - good company news.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Steve J on 23 July 2017, 07:25:54 AM
Great news and eagerly looking forward to the Eastern European range being available :)


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Orcs on 23 July 2017, 07:55:11 AM
B*GG*R, so much for rationalising and reducing the Lead pile

That's a great acquisition, you are just not going to be popular with Mrs Orcs  ;D


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Techno on 23 July 2017, 08:25:03 AM
Excellent additions !

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Leman on 23 July 2017, 08:44:17 AM
What excellent news - lovely looking figures and a great acquisition. A few years back I downloaded their Ancients Rules, so here's an incentive to maybe use them.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Womble67 on 23 July 2017, 09:36:39 AM
That's fantastic news Leon well done indeed

Take care

Andy


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: ronan on 23 July 2017, 09:46:53 AM
I agree.

So, now ... what about  historical warband rules ?..  ;)


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Bernie on 23 July 2017, 10:06:56 AM
Well done! A cracking range of lovely figures only let down by unreliable delivery and delivery costs. Can't wait for when we can order some of these with confidence


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Bren on 23 July 2017, 12:15:25 PM
Yeah Baby! As Leon mentioned, the height of the infantry figures is slightly larger than most of Pendraken's foot figures but this makes them an excellent match with the fantasy lines.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: FierceKitty on 23 July 2017, 01:44:55 PM
They fit right in on the tabletop.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: sunjester on 23 July 2017, 02:15:37 PM
I'd previously looked these but resisted, might not be able to in the future now!


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: barbarian on 23 July 2017, 06:59:21 PM
The gauls are a must buy.

In fact, everything is beautiful.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Nosher on 23 July 2017, 08:00:27 PM
Congratulations on a superb coup ;)

Just be careful you dont draw the attention of the authorities for cornering more than your fair share of the 10mm market.....  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Orcs on 23 July 2017, 10:54:52 PM
resisted,

Sorry, but I do not understand this word, and I am not sure you do either.  :)


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Matt J on 23 July 2017, 11:02:28 PM
Excellent news. Look forward to buying.... well... all of it really  :D


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Tarty on 24 July 2017, 12:02:18 AM
Wonderful addition. Great news  :-bd


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 24 July 2017, 11:11:37 PM

Are they ready yet?.......

Only joking :D.........

No, really, are they ready yet?........



Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 25 July 2017, 12:00:09 AM
Woah!  Very nice!


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Ace of Spades on 25 July 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Excellent work and a very good decision!


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Wulf on 25 July 2017, 01:45:32 PM
Since I've mentioned them, but no-one else has, can I verify - are those bloody great (in all senses) Carthaginian Elephants in the mix too? Huge buggers and damned impressive compared to every other '10mm' scale effalump I've seen.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Leon on 25 July 2017, 02:10:13 PM
Since I've mentioned them, but no-one else has, can I verify - are those bloody great (in all senses) Carthaginian Elephants in the mix too? Huge buggers and damned impressive compared to every other '10mm' scale effalump I've seen.

Yep, those are in there as well! I did notice the size of them and think 'Hmm... these will make some cracking Fantasy heffalumps!'


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 26 July 2017, 12:52:29 AM
Yep, those are in there as well! I did notice the size of them and think 'Hmm... these will make some cracking Fantasy heffalumps!'

 :) 8)


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Bloodaxe on 06 August 2017, 05:05:06 PM
So I'll be able to get a 10mm Crusader army?   :)


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: lawhock76 on 17 August 2017, 11:01:19 AM
hi Pendraken peeps, what are the chances that the Teutonics and European knights will be processed & order-able  in time for Reading Warfare in November!!??
many thanks :0)


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Sandinista on 17 August 2017, 07:20:06 PM
hi Pendraken peeps, what are the chances that the Teutonics and European knights will be processed & order-able  in time for Reading Warfare in November!!??
many thanks :0)

Leon is on holiday until the middle of next week so expect a delay on him replying to your question

Cheers
Ian


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Leon on 24 August 2017, 12:58:09 AM
hi Pendraken peeps, what are the chances that the Teutonics and European knights will be processed & order-able  in time for Reading Warfare in November!!??

Not sure at the moment I'm afraid, I need to get on top of all the other releases that are still stuck in the system.  I'm hoping to get through quite a bit in September and October, we should have a new caster starting for us soon which will alleviate some of the pressure on the guys and we can start getting some other jobs done.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: paulr on 24 August 2017, 01:25:25 AM
...we should have a new caster starting for us soon which will alleviate some of the pressure on the guys and we can start getting some other jobs done.

That's good news :)


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: fsn on 24 August 2017, 07:46:12 AM
... we should have a new caster starting for us soon ...
Do you mean a wizard? Has Gandalf come to the caverns of Middle Borough?   :o  8)


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Leon on 05 September 2017, 01:32:30 PM
Just to update on this, we've been checking all of the moulds and unfortunately it looks like we'll need to make new production moulds for everything.  This of course means that the ranges won't be available as quickly as planned, but we're still hoping to have the first of them online before the end of the year.  We'll try and release them one at a time, with the Islamics, Teutonics and Russians being the first ones I'd think.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 September 2017, 02:50:49 PM
...after the real priorities, naturally.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: d_Guy on 05 September 2017, 02:59:28 PM
Yes, after those.  I am signing up for the TB Islamics and the new Arab horse, however.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: ErHo on 05 September 2017, 03:20:53 PM
Need to preorder the Teutonics, take my money!!!


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Westmarcher on 05 September 2017, 05:56:56 PM
Do you mean a wizard? Has Gandalf come to the caverns of Middle Borough?   :o  8)

Yes. He'll be there for a spell.   :)


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Leon on 05 September 2017, 06:30:11 PM
Do you mean a wizard? Has Gandalf come to the caverns of Middle Borough?   :o  8)

There is a Gandalf registered on the Forum, and he might indeed work for us...


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 05 September 2017, 11:50:22 PM
Hello

Pity about the old production moulds. Will just have to sit and wait patiently a bit longer (not really, how do you think I got my nickname :D :D).

You do seem to have a lot on the go at the moment, hope everything smooths out for you.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Leon on 06 September 2017, 12:04:59 AM
Pity about the old production moulds. Will just have to sit and wait patiently a bit longer (not really, how do you think I got my nickname :D :D).

We were a bit concerned when we first saw them but we hoped they'd be better once we started spinning them.  The main problem is that they've been made in a lower temp silicon rather than a regular type, so they're a bit softer and they heat up very quickly.  Within 3 or 4 spins, the heat expands the rubber and you start to get flashing around the figures.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: pierre the shy on 07 September 2017, 11:17:31 AM
Hello

Pity about the old production moulds. Will just have to sit and wait patiently a bit longer (not really, how do you think I got my nickname :D :D).
You do seem to have a lot on the go at the moment, hope everything smooths out for you.

Waiting patiently for the Teutonics and their oppos to become available for a DBA related idea.

Best of British for all your upcoming releases Leon.


Title: Re: Pendraken acquires TB Line 10mm ranges!
Post by: Orcs on 08 September 2017, 10:29:53 PM
We were a bit concerned when we first saw them but we hoped they'd be better once we started spinning them.  The main problem is that they've been made in a lower temp silicon rather than a regular type, so they're a bit softer and they heat up very quickly.  Within 3 or 4 spins, the heat expands the rubber and you start to get flashing around the figures.

If you rubber is overheating I suggest you slow down and use some lube

Seriously the delay will stop me buying them and allow me to complete other projects.