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Title: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: Sunray on 20 July 2017, 02:53:50 PM
Ok forum - your chance to shape the figures that Phil will sculpt !

We need images posted on line of US infantry and Marines in winter wear, for 1950.1951 and 1952

That's M43 jacket, the pile caps and the famous Parka. The early Parka is WW2 pattern with a belt(often removed) and shirt pockets. It was also light tan as opposed to the later M1951 which was field green.   Web is worn below the Parka.

The wisdom is the earlier model could function as a 1944/45 proxy.

In the images I have sent to Phil, the Parka hood appears often worn inside the helmet - the Argentines did the same in 92.  Was it ever worn outside the helmet?

Look forward to what you source.  Good poses will be awarded with a sculpt ! :(
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: Techno on 20 July 2017, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Sunray on 20 July 2017, 02:53:50 PM
Ok forum - your chance to shape the figures that Phil will sculpt !
Good poses will be awarded with a sculpt ! :(

Says who ?  :D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: Sunray on 20 July 2017, 04:14:44 PM
Come on  Phil, we gotta give some incentive .  :P

To be honest, its hard to find inspiration in these padded Michelin men images !
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: fsn on 20 July 2017, 04:19:33 PM
Oooh! oooh! Can I have mine on a Centurion?

I've just googles Chosin Reservoir, so mostly  Marines 1950

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/chosin-battle/
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/chosin-battle/)https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-the-Chosin-Reservoir (https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-the-Chosin-Reservoir)
(https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/98/160698-004-7881C1ED.jpg) (https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/01/160701-004-8AF94095.jpg)

If not a Centurion, I'd appreciate a MG team on the move like on the right, here. (i.e. not prone.  >:()


Rear view - I know Techno loves the rear view
(http://static1.uk.businessinsider.com/image/554b4524dd089586088b468a-480/chosin-korea-marines.jpeg) (http://c7.alamy.com/comp/G36AFK/first-division-leathernecks-counter-fire-with-fire-when-attacked-by-G36AFK.jpg)

(http://c7.alamy.com/comp/BXMTHC/elements-of-the-5th-and-7th-regiments-1st-marine-division-move-from-BXMTHC.jpg)

Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: Techno on 21 July 2017, 07:28:52 AM
Thanks, Nobby.

I think I'll probably go for the Michelin Man in M43 jackets, look.
The guys in the extra long coats.....Hmmmm....A bit waffy as a 10mm sculpt....I believe they'll come out as just a bit too blobby....But I'll be guided by Sir.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 July 2017, 07:46:44 AM
You could just do the guy in the blanket. You would have him finished in 30 seconds!
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: Techno on 21 July 2017, 08:47:59 AM
 :-\
In an ideal World, I could do variations 'on a theme'.......Do one lot...then convert them....But that just means more outlay for Leon, for possibly not much return.
(Could always do something further down the road if there's a real call for them.)

I'll hang fire for a couple of days and see what the score is from Sir, James, and yourselves.

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: fsn on 22 July 2017, 12:23:11 PM
Quote from: Techno on 21 July 2017, 07:28:52 AM
I think I'll probably go for the Michelin Man in M43 jackets, look.
>:( Well, you could have said so.

http://olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_clothing_m1951_uniform.php (http://olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_clothing_m1951_uniform.php)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/fa/56/ba/fa56ba462663a94ae529b134142107ea.jpg)(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/9d/fc/54/9dfc5481ec87a78778dfadcda7b22ff5.jpg)(https://miepvonsydow.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/n3x7ghd.jpg?w=590)(http://www.benefits.va.gov/INSURANCE/images/korea.jpg)

Hill 902 -Sept 1951
(https://i0.wp.com/www.historybyzim.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Pfc.-Julias-Van-Den-Stock.jpg?resize=768%2C591)

April 1951
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/US_3rd_infantry_troops%2C_before_Imjin_River_patrol%2C_Korea_17-April-1951.jpg)

Puerto Ricans
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/07/05/133850167_Department%20of%20Defense%20-%20mediadru_US%20in%20Korea-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqGYGDE_nezZAHzgJUlmrXn1X37b_dbl6CYuXbzCuAZxQ.jpg)
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/chipdurant/korean-war/?lp=true (https://www.pinterest.co.uk/chipdurant/korean-war/?lp=true)

There's a slideshow on this link. Slide 4 shows Chinese attachking, and slide 11 has what I think you're looking for.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128092817 (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128092817)

French
http://m.blog.daum.net/_blog/_m/articleView.do?blogid=0cpwz&articleno=3346 (http://m.blog.daum.net/_blog/_m/articleView.do?blogid=0cpwz&articleno=3346)

July 1951 - but an interesting shot nonetheless. RCL go "BOOM!"
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/07/05/133850233_Department%20of%20Defense%20-%20mediadru_US%20in%20Korea-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqfXi9m7FevWaAC32HiRJgDgpzlYT3YGMWpfgR0TxiVeA.jpg)
(https://i1.wp.com/www.historybyzim.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Recoilless_rifle_korea.jpg?w=758)
Lost more photos in overcoats and parkas. Just saying.  >:(
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: fsn on 22 July 2017, 12:25:37 PM
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: fsn on 22 July 2017, 12:39:52 PM
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: Techno on 23 July 2017, 08:27:25 AM
Great stuff, Nobby.... :-bd

Ta muchly.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: Sunray on 23 July 2017, 08:54:30 AM
Quote from: Techno on 23 July 2017, 08:27:25 AM
Great stuff, Nobby.... :-bd

Ta muchly.

Cheers - Phil

Outstanding Nobby.  Thank you.   :-bd     I have recommended to the Head Shed that we keep to shorter Parkas and the layer type dress based around the M43.  This has loads of proxy applications way beyond Korea.
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: Techno on 23 July 2017, 11:35:31 AM
I totally agree, James !

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Korea - US winter wear - help needed
Post by: fsn on 23 July 2017, 12:07:04 PM
(http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_06_2008/post-214-1213996591.jpg)(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c6/aa/0a/c6aa0aa110651f17fba5a0c9d3198411.jpg)(https://www.army.mil/e2/c/images/2013/09/30/314381/size0.jpg)(http://koreanwar-educator.org/topics/national_guard/national_guard_01_720x631.jpg)(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b9/85/ec/b985ec7fb544d66a9b16e60387204e68.jpg)

Ridgeway
(http://m1.daumcdn.net/cfile221/image/1162934C4E28F5F40170CB)

Gunners, Nov 1950
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e7LKchtNu_U/SpfaMWfuTKI/AAAAAAAAAPk/JtVALduhMqk/s1600/vanburen2.jpg)

1953
(https://donmooreswartales.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/cooley-parka001.jpg)

Man in his underwear. This re-enactor is the only one I've seen with the helmet under the hood.
http://theforgottenwar.proboards.com/thread/134

loads of photos here
http://arstudies.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/search/searchterm/korean%20war!korean%20war%2C%201950-1953/field/all!subjec/mode/all!all/conn/and!and/order/nosort/ad/asc (http://arstudies.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/search/searchterm/korean%20war!korean%20war%2C%201950-1953/field/all!subjec/mode/all!all/conn/and!and/order/nosort/ad/asc)
https://www.butlercenter.org/koreanwarproject/veterans.html (https://www.butlercenter.org/koreanwarproject/veterans.html)

Found this about Turks in Korea
http://www.forumusa.com/kore-savasinda-66-yil-once-bugun/ (http://www.forumusa.com/kore-savasinda-66-yil-once-bugun/)

Female soldiers
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/89/c4/2c/89c42c0714a2d87aa153e8f5e279de31.jpg)
Gratuitous Centurion
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/85/92/6f/85926f605c5115c225b10d584694b1b5.jpg)