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Title: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Leon on 25 March 2017, 12:45:23 AM
Exactly what it says above!  The finished files have all gone off to the printers, so everything is on course for our planned release at the Salute show on 22nd April.  Barring any unforeseen random issue with the files, we should get confirmation back from the printers that everything is OK early next week and we'll then have a confirmed date for delivery of the printed books.

We will be taking pre-orders for BKCIII, but we'll put up information about that once everything is confirmed by the printers.

Not long now folks...

(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ImageBin/BKCIIIPromoImage1.jpg)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: paulr on 25 March 2017, 02:52:48 AM
Well done that man =D> =D> =D>


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: kustenjaeger on 25 March 2017, 06:15:16 AM
Well done.

Hope it sells well.

Edward


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: mad lemmey on 25 March 2017, 06:44:10 AM
Great news Leon. :)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Steve J on 25 March 2017, 08:23:47 AM
What the others said really :)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: ianrs54 on 25 March 2017, 10:22:32 AM
I DONT BELIEVE IT


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Fenton on 25 March 2017, 04:03:10 PM
When are we going to find out about the price?


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: mollinary on 25 March 2017, 07:49:07 PM
Well done - and good luck!

Mollinary


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: old smokie on 25 March 2017, 08:30:25 PM
Great news  :-bd, whats the price going to be ?


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Itinerant Hobbyist on 25 March 2017, 09:07:26 PM
Yes!

I can't  remember if this has been said anywhere - will pdfs be available to purchase?


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Leon on 25 March 2017, 11:42:01 PM
The rules will be available as a hardcopy through us and then pdf's through Wargame Vault.

When are we going to find out about the price?

Great news, whats the price going to be?

We're waiting on the final printing costs before deciding that, but I suppose a question is 'What would people expect to pay?'  It's a softback, 176 page book in full colour, containing all of the rules, 49 army lists, 15 scenarios, QRS sheet, etc.  Everything for gaming the whole of WWII in one book.

Other WWII sets on the market would be Bolt Action (30 + army books at 15 each?), Chain of Command (22), Battlegroup (20 + army books @ 30 each), Spearhead (28), etc.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Kiwidave on 26 March 2017, 06:48:52 AM
From memory BKC and BKC2 were 20, but that was a while ago, so 25-30 would be reasonable


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Steve J on 26 March 2017, 07:52:46 AM
Yep, the last one was 20 IIRC. So today I would have thought 25 sounds reasonable plus P&P.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Womble67 on 27 March 2017, 12:16:25 AM
Fantastic news ill definitely be buying a copy

Take care

Andy


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Leon on 27 March 2017, 12:29:50 AM
From memory BKC and BKC2 were 20, but that was a while ago, so 25-30 would be reasonable

Yep, the last one was 20 IIRC. So today I would have thought 25 sounds reasonable plus P&P.

I was thinking about the 25 mark, maybe with a pre-order deal for the launch.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: mad lemmey on 27 March 2017, 09:03:49 AM
How about rules and starter force for 60 squids?  ;)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Zbigniew on 27 March 2017, 10:07:21 AM
So when? My wallet is ready. :-w

Please release the rules fast because its spring and my garden expenses can rapidly consume my budget  (with a little help from my spouse)  :)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Leon on 27 March 2017, 03:00:32 PM
How about rules and starter force for 60 squids?  ;)

We'll have a show offer in place hopefully, but we've not worked up the packaged armies just yet so I'm not sure on the pricing levels.  That offer wouldn't be on the website though unfortnuately, as it would mix VAT and non-VAT items and wouldn't work with the website coding. 

So when? My wallet is ready. :-w

 ;)

... planned release at the Salute show on 22nd April.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: ronan on 27 March 2017, 09:37:50 PM
I was thinking about the 25 mark, maybe with a pre-order deal for the launch.

25 is 28.9 (today), that would be ok for me ( ie. ~ 30.00 with postage etc. )

Now : WHEN ?
 :D


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Leon on 27 March 2017, 11:43:23 PM
Now : WHEN ?

...so everything is on course for our planned release at the Salute show on 22nd April.

 :-bd


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 28 March 2017, 01:39:08 AM
Great news, you can put me down for a pre order.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Le Manchou on 28 March 2017, 09:14:40 AM
i might be interested too, if someone knows the two systems, what are the differences between BKCIII and Spearhead?


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 March 2017, 09:41:47 AM
Very different - BKC uses a Warmaster-ish command system - each group of bases (one tank model/4-5 infantry figures on a base is one platoon) is under a HQ stand which has a Command Value. Roll under the CV, get an action (usually move or fire). Keep going till you fail, or switch the HQ to commanding a different group. Each base can take a certain number of hits and can also be suppressed; hits come off at the end of the turn (so you have to stack up enough fire to drop a stand in one turn) but suppression's only come off at the end of your turn.

It's a buckets of d6 for fire - each base rolls X number of dice against armoured, Y number against soft targets depending on weapon (eg early British Cruisers might be 3 dice versus hard targets, only 1 dice versus soft - no HE ammo, low amount of MGs etc), the target then rolls any saves, and the remainder is knocked off their hits for the turn and when their hits reach zero they go. The more hits you get, the more chance of suppression as well.

It's a "lower level" more grainy system than Spearhead, and the awkwardness and friction of plan versus reality versus enemy is generated from the command rolls instead of via a fixed plan - better armies have higher CV's and more flexible commanders, so will likely get more orders out and therefore their troops do more, as well as being able to "chop and change" which HQ is ordering what more easily (if at all).

TBH the friction it generates through the command system is likely as effective a way of representing the chaos & confusion inherent in combat as any, but it's not always to everyone's cup of meat :)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Le Manchou on 28 March 2017, 10:00:19 AM
Sounds very interesting thanks! I suppose I will wait for Ronan to try out the rules next winter. I was thinking about playing SL/ASL with miniatures and already have a lot of platoons for chain of command, plus I often play Tide of Iron. So it's a lot of WW2 rules but not at this level of command.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 28 March 2017, 04:29:57 PM
Marvellous! The worst thing I ever did was flog my previous Commander sets


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: ronan on 28 March 2017, 05:56:30 PM
(...) So it's a lot of WW2 rules (...)

We can't have enough rules  ;D


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Dazza on 28 March 2017, 11:19:10 PM
cant wait to start using these and would be great to play a few games, work depending :)



Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Kiwidave on 29 March 2017, 10:21:18 PM
Will you have a distributor on this half of the planet, or will us ANZACs need to order direct form Pendraken HQ?


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Leon on 30 March 2017, 02:36:56 PM
Will you have a distributor on this half of the planet, or will us ANZACs need to order direct form Pendraken HQ?

At the moment it's likely to be ordering directly.  We've had enquiries from Aus/NZ over the years but the shipping costs have always been too expensive to make it worthwhile for stockists.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Luddite on 30 March 2017, 02:45:03 PM
Global domination takes time eh?   ;)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: ianrs54 on 30 March 2017, 02:59:14 PM
Global domination takes time eh?   ;)

Not if your name is Trump.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: fsn on 30 March 2017, 05:25:02 PM
Damned Dutch admirals!   >:(


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: ianrs54 on 31 March 2017, 07:48:21 AM
That's Tromp - you utter oik.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: toxicpixie on 31 March 2017, 08:36:14 AM
Tromp, Trump? I think you need a couple of Rennies & an air freshener :D


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Luddite on 31 March 2017, 08:44:33 AM
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/029/970/trainn.jpg)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: toxicpixie on 31 March 2017, 08:45:56 AM
Was that Ians commute this morning? If he's Tromp'd so hard he's blown the train off the tracks he'll need more than a couple of Rennies...


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: mad lemmey on 31 March 2017, 08:55:20 AM
 =O =O


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Luddite on 31 March 2017, 11:15:11 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: fsn on 31 March 2017, 06:28:41 PM
That's Tromp - you utter oik.
Pshaw! You'll be telling me next that Admiral Nielson didn't sing "Can't live ... if living is without you"! And I know for a fact that Admiral Halsey joined with Titus Oates of Scott of the Arctic fame to sing "Maneater"! That's why he had to go outside. 


Anyway. How long is BC3 going to be at the painters?


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Leon on 31 March 2017, 07:46:23 PM
Anyway. How long is BC3 going to be at the painters?

Quite a while, we should probably buy the painting elves some bigger brushes...

As for the actual rules, about 2-3 weeks for the printing.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Leon on 20 April 2017, 01:08:09 AM
And they've arrived, just in time for Salute!

(https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18034084_1908738566006740_553034870276872169_n.jpg?oh=437dc4d44d655d8c1edc7469ea1e9ef2&oe=598C4EDC)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: ronan on 20 April 2017, 10:44:30 AM
 :)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Techno on 20 April 2017, 12:07:27 PM
At first glance, I thought that was a chest of drawers !

Mind you.....My eyes are working SO well this morning I had a particularly brilliant 'miss-see' as I was doing a quick shop, this fair morn.

Walking past some shelves with various 'chutneys' displayed, I thought I saw one jar marked as 'Slimy Lice Chutney'.
(Spicy Lime Chutney.) X_X

Cheers - A Twerp.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Shedman on 20 April 2017, 03:26:16 PM
Leon

if you don't need those pallets in the background then can you put them in the envelope with my copy of BKC3

I'm rebuilding compost corner and the wood pile and they would work a treat

 ;)


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Leon on 20 April 2017, 04:06:00 PM
if you don't need those pallets in the background then can you put them in the envelope with my copy of BKC3

I'm rebuilding compost corner and the wood pile and they would work a treat

You're welcome to come and collect them...!   :D

Our metal comes on pallets each month so we usually have a few spares.  I tend to use them under the worktops in the unit to keep boxes and stuff off the floor.


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: old smokie on 20 April 2017, 04:10:32 PM
 :) :) 8) 8)

so, when are they going to be mailed to the masses  ???


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: old smokie on 20 April 2017, 04:14:13 PM
weird my post has appeared in both threads  :-/


Title: Re: Blitzkrieg Commander III at the printers!
Post by: Leon on 20 April 2017, 06:01:30 PM
so, when are they going to be mailed to the masses  ???

Monday morning, as originally planned!   ;)