Tonight see's the first meeting of a new wargames club at Tunstall Village Hall, nr Richmond. We are so new we don't even have a name yet! (Not one you could print anyway :)) Tonight should see between 4-6 of us playing a large 6mm Wars of the Roses battle using Hail Caesar rules. We will be open to any scale, period, rules etc...
If anyone who lives close enough to pop along any Friday night PM me through the forum for more information.
Best of luck with that venture. Little acorns etc. How about The Tunstall Unwary Competitors, the TUC. Nobody else seems to be using that to any great effect these days.
Good luck!
The Tunstall Tunnel Rats?
All the best with the venture, just a little too far to go on a Friday evening though.
As to club names I suggest Kings and Things (aka KT Tunstall) :)
Thanks for the club name ideas, I shall pass them on. My suggestion was The Old Guard as none of us are young. If we refuse on a name I shall let you know.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 26 August 2016, 05:56:09 PM
As to club names I suggest Kings and Things (aka KT Tunstall) :)
Dammit Mike, you beat me to that pun! :'(
I trust the club will refight LZ 61 (L21) vs 3 RNAS B.E.2c's.
The downing of "The Baby Killer"
Best of luck with the new club, perhaps the Young Guard ;)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 26 August 2016, 05:56:09 PM
All the best with the venture, just a little too far to go on a Friday evening though.
As to club names I suggest Kings and Things (aka KT Tunstall) :)
;D ;D ;D
Logo of a Black Horse and a Cherry Tree?
Oooh! How about "Nymphomaniacs Anonymous"?
Might bring in a few new members.
Well 6 players turned up and the Yorkists gave us Lancastrians a good hiding. We are planning on meeting every and Friday and could be up to 9 members by our next meeting.
Still no name although the Wigan was suggested?
Aren't you the wrong side of the Pennines for Wigan?
Pie eaters!
I was there. As was James who took the Pendraken Forum Meet's photo at the York show earlier in the year.
Luckily, for all playing, when I did discover which WotR side I was playing - Thankfully the Yorkists - I didn't have to switch allegiance and attack those 'orrible Lancastrians while chanting White Rose, White Rose at the top of my voice!
Name-wise, Catterick Gaming Club. Don't bother with wargames in the title and you might draw in boardgamers, rpgs and ccg enthusiasts. Enough people have heard of Catterick through either the Army or the Races that it is a useful label to use. Also, the other group labels themselves Catterick Garrison, and since they're nearer Camp Centre it is easier to let them have that one. That's my two pence worth, at least.
I'd best sort out my ACW naval stuff for the next meet in a fortnight.
Quote from: RoyWilliamson on 27 August 2016, 09:49:37 AM
Luckily, for all playing, when I did discover which WotR side I was playing - Thankfully the Yorkists - I didn't have to switch allegiance and attack those 'orrible Lancastrians while chanting White Rose, White Rose at the top of my voice.
That never stopped Lord Hastings, Stanley or Henry Tudor! 🌹🌼
Erm, Wigan should have been WITAN, still not used to my phone auto correcting me.
We now have a Facebook page under the provisional name of the Old Guard Wargames Club. I shall have to get my wife to show me how to use facebook now.
Well won last night Roy, was that superior tactics or good dice throwing?
Sounds as if the club got off to a good start. Long live the Old Guard! m/
If I had read the thread earlier, I might have suggested Tunstall Old Guards (TOGs for short - a play on Terry's Old Geezers) - better still, how about (Tunstall And District GamERS .... the TADGERS ...... :-\ ....... maybe not ....
Facebook ... Argh! :'(
I told you last night I don't like Facebook, as there's a chance people who know me might find out I'm still alive and want me to attend school reunions and the like X_X
Quote from: Bodvoc on 27 August 2016, 12:07:00 PM
Well won last night Roy, was that superior tactics or good dice throwing?
All three on my side rolled some great dice when it came to melee, with our left pushing forward early and then (my command) the centre remaining as an anchor to allow James to sweep forward and around your side's left flank. Also, I was conscious of the lack of a reserve, and with the left going in early and if that had collapsed, I didn't want you to be able to push forward and, along with your side's centre, pressure our middle into falling back onto our right flank. James and I did discuss a strategy between ourselves, his being the major input so I'll allow him to claim the laurels there.
Still miffed that I failed my command roll, as I really wanted to rush forward and loot your side's camp :ar!
Wasn't Yorkshire largely Lancastrian anyway?
What I know of the period can be written on the back of a fag packet, so pass. I did look at it, briefly, it all made my head hurt, so I stopped.
I'll use this image as my excuse. I ain't got a clue if it is accurate ;D
Tunstall - Catterick - Richmond is somewhere to the right of the O in Ouse River on the map. (might be a little to the north, too - but we'll overlook that)
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I'll cheer on the Plantagenet cause just for the sheer heck of it! ;D
That is probably quite accurate as there were far more Lancastrian than Yorkist Lords.
The WOR was mostly a north v south affair until the Welsh B*sterd traitorous usurper got involved, cough, spit.
Now current Roses matches are definitely east v west, and being from just down the road from this club originally (Ainderby Steeple) I'm White Rose through and through
Good luck with the club lads.
Cept he was much more French. The Welsh have had no Kings and no Prime Ministers (David George was from Brum).
IanS
We shouldn't over emphasise nationality - family and house are what is important, the concept of "France" was still very new and wouldn't be cemented until Louis XIV
Most of the aristocracy of England, Scotland and France were a mixture of similar bloodlines.
House and fealty is the thing - he's still a treacherous upstart usurper with no genuine claim to the throne though :D
Born a Lancastrian but having lived in Yorkshire for most of my adult life, I have very divided loyalties :)
I reckon Edward IV was one of the best Kings we possibly ever had until that Woodville girl led him astray.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 28 August 2016, 07:53:35 AM
Cept he was much more French. The Welsh have had no Kings and no Prime Ministers (David George was from Brum).
IanS
He's just having his usual dig - the Tiwdwr's were of course a Welsh family of long lineage, and as this was certainly a patriarchal society in those days, it makes all the Tudor monarchs Welsh. Then you also get the Scottish monarchs as well mixing it up in the C17th so quite a bit of Celt thrown into the monarchy mix. What exactly is a prime minister? Certainly Elizabeth I's chief minister, Cecil, changed his name from Seisyll to make it easier for the English to pronounce.
Done this so far
Joined Facebook club page - 6 members now
Posted info on Lead Adventure Forum and Steve Dean Painting Forum about club
Began making 24 bases of trees (most are double tree bases) and have been routing around for other terrain bits that can be used
Made and began painting two Improved Monitor, Passaic-class monitors for 1/600 ACW naval
Looked at what I have for 28mm Ancient Germans, glued aload up and began basing those already painted
Bought some blue fabric for a sea mat, as I didn't like what I already had as it appeared too narrow to game 1/600 upon
Found that there is a condensed Flames of War .pdf rules book free to download, as Bodvoc made an enquiry about such
http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/Documents/OpenFire/Open-Fire-Quick-Start.pdf (http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/Documents/OpenFire/Open-Fire-Quick-Start.pdf)
You have been busy Roy, I did manage to find the quick start Flames of war rules, they seem easy enough for even me to understand. We seem to be up to 9 members now on Facebook, only problem is I now have a list of over 150 people who want to be my friend, half of them I have never heard of, the other half I wish I had never heard of! :) (I did say Hi to my sister over in Arizona though).
Hmm, routing around :-\
Obviously I meanting rooting.
I skimmed through the FoW rules book, thought it all looked too much to remember and have decided I'll just cheer on from the sidelines <:-P
And meaning meant meant?
Quote from: Leman on 29 August 2016, 08:29:09 AM
And meaning meant meant?
Sometimes the autocorrect works against you even when it's right :D
You did of course mean "and meanting meant, meant?" 8)
I really, really hate that auto carrot!
Sadly, the inventor of predictive text has died. His funfair will be hello on Sundial. ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Quote from: Ithoriel on 29 August 2016, 03:45:41 PM
Sadly, the inventor of predictive text has died. His funfair will be hello on Sundial. ;)
;D ;D ;D snort!
This may be the funniest thing I've read here.
Very good, Mike.
Cheers - Phil
;D ;D ;D ;D
We ought to have a series of productive taxing posts, to see whether we can work out the real meaning.
Cheers - Phil
STOP SPEACKING WELSH.
IanS
Only if you start speaking English. :P ;)
Cheers - Phil
I can only chat Scouse....
It's not really scouse, it's tunnel rat!
ERm - Queens Drive, till I wuz 6.
IanS
Good to see a Wargaming club on the up and one that focuses on Wargaming as opposed to gaming and good to see its in God's County.
Shame I'm resident darn sarf ;D
Quote from: ianrs54 on 31 August 2016, 07:51:27 AM
ERm - Queens Drive, till I wuz 6.
IanS
Being born in a car park doesn't make you a car ;)
The next club meeting on Friday 9th Sept. sees 1/600 scale ACW naval action, Flames of War in 15mm and possibly 6mm Ancients using Hail Caesar. We are hoping to have anything from 6 to players, not bad for just our second meeting. :)
Quote from: Techno on 30 August 2016, 12:45:52 PM
We ought to have a series of productive taxing posts, to see whether we can work out the real meaning.
Cheers - Phil
Wait! You mean Pendraken is considering taxing posts if they are productive? Sort of like a commission for good ideas!?
That means that some of us will never be taxed! I'm down with that.
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Just finished getting the planned forces ready for the ACW naval game at the next club night.
Merrimac-Virginia and Monitor had been built previously, but I've painted up the USS Nahant and USS Weehawken models to fit my planned scenario - Time-wise, post-Hampton Roads, and a Union force of three monitors has been dispatched to destroy the big Confederate ironclad warship Virginia.
Rules will be Smoke on the Water.
Great looking models Roy! :-bd :-bd
Looks awesome!
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
Damn the freeboard, full speed ahead
Great work Roy, nothing like having a game to get ready for to inspire you. I look forward to seeing them for real.
:-bd :-bd :-bd
Like those !
Cheers - Phil
Good models of really ugly ships. :)
Thank you :)
Very nice indeed. something for me to aspire to as I ready myself to paint the USS Tyler.
Nicely done young man :-bd :-bd =D> =D> =D> =D>
Thank you :)
Skywalker, do these two gents seem familiar?
http://zabadakszombieworld.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/border-reiver-2016.html (http://zabadakszombieworld.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/border-reiver-2016.html)
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Looks like there'll be 3 games for the second club night.
15mm WW2 Flames of War
1/600 ACW Naval Smoke on the Water
Impetus Ancients (don't know the scale - what size does Pete play, Bodvoc?)
Been working on 28mm Ancient Germans, myself. So far I've 20 figures done, but am now working on expanding unit size to make a larger 30 figure 28mm warband unit that can be used with Impetus and To the Strongest! rules.
I am looking forward to our second meeting, the ancients will actually be 6mm Greeks and Persians using Hail Caesar Rules. However the 6x3cm bases also suit Impetus and To the Strongest. (and Sword and Spear).
Roy, I am surprised we didn't cause his camera irreparable damage ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Bodvoc on 08 September 2016, 12:11:49 PM
the ancients will actually be 6mm Greeks and Persians using Hail Caesar Rules.
Yep, my mistake. When I left on the last meeting it was all still being confirmed. I'll have to stay till lock up this time, then I'll know.
Quote from: skywalker on 08 September 2016, 12:28:24 PM
Roy, I am surprised we didn't cause his camera irreparable damage ;D ;D ;D ;D
Joe (Zabadak) says that your game was his favourite on the day - shame there wasn't a public vote for best game.
Nice of him to say so. Please pass on my thanks :D :D :D :D
Quote from: skywalker on 08 September 2016, 02:29:38 PM
Nice of him to say so. Please pass on my thanks :D :D :D :D
I will do.
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Club Night #1 (26th August 2016)
Attendance: 6
Games: 1
* War of the Roses in 6mm (multiplayer, Hail Caesar)
Yorkists to the Left of the photos, Lancastrians to the Right
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The Yorkist Left begins to advance forward
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The Yorkist Centre and Right
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The Lancastrians await their first turn
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The Yorkist Left smashes into melee, while the Centre comes under volleys of arrow fire from their Lancastrian counter-parts
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The Yorkist Left is beyond their enemy's front lines, and having succeeded in melee they're ready to attempt a turning of the Lancastrian army's flank
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The Yorkist Right, secure in the knowledge that the Centre units will act to secure their flank, is about to push forward to meet their enemy in melee
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Two shots of the (nearest to camera) end of the battlefield - Yorkists closest to camera
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And they're in! Pushing back the extreme flank of the Lancastrian army, the Yorkists follow them up.
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Elsewhere, now the Yorkist Left has control of their end of the battlefield, the Yorkist Centre surges forward and forces the Lancastrians standing against them to flee from the field - Leaving the way open to sack the Lancastrian baggage camp ... If only I'd not failed my command roll and had been able to move my troops!
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The End. The Yorkists control the centre of the field. Only token Lancastrian resistance is to be had on the Yorkist's left flank. And now the Yorkist Right has encircled the last enemy units on their side of the battlefield, swiftly causing them to rout. Victory to the Yorkists.
##It needs to be said that my role of (successful) command of the Yorkist Centre was more down to good luck than great generalship. Getting those poor dice rolls out of the way early on always helps, when it came to melee my dice rolling was good.
That looks proper.
Nothing like small scale figures to give you the sweep of battle.
How many stands were you using for a unit? I'm not quite sure if you have 6 stand units, or just happen to have all your troops in a division close to each other.
Hello Fred. I honestly haven't got a clue how the troops were sorted out.
On the night I had:
x1 commander
x1 Artillery base
Unit A: x6 bases of infantry formed together [retainer]
Unit B: x6 bases of infantry formed together [levy]
Whether these six bases could have been detached to form seperate units, I don't know. Nobody did so in the game, and I don't know the rules at all.
Bodvoc should be able to explain things, as he's playing Hail Caesar tonight at the club.
Mmmm, glad to see 6mm is still alive and well.
They are indeed 6 stand units with 24 figures per stand.
In tonight's game one stand of 30 hoplites/immortals etc..will be one unit. I only have several hundred figures painted whereas the chap doing the WOTR has about 4,000.
Great looking game!
Quote from: Bodvoc on 09 September 2016, 02:51:55 PM
They are indeed 6 stand units with 24 figures per stand.
In tonight's game one stand of 30 hoplites/immortals etc..will be one unit. I only have several hundred figures painted whereas the chap doing the WOTR has about 4,000.
It's always cool when you have enogh figures painted to make big chunky units. If my maths is right you have close to 150 figures in a unit.
Second club night at The Old Guard Wargames Club and I took along my ACW naval.
My game's table quicky turned into a mess of QRS, dice and token, with me scrabbling to find the correct rule or chart needed to continue the game - But, it being a first game, this should be resolved in the future.
There's a bit of a game report over on the blog, here
LINK (http://nevermindthejankers.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/acw-naval-game-at-catterick-club.html)
for those interested, but the images are less photogenic, game detritus in shot, and the latter turns are only a write up as time was short and photos less of a priority.
Westmarcher, I believe it was yourself who asked me how I found the Smoke on the Water rules, in a comment earlier in the year.
Well, a part from the bouncing between roll on Chart A - now dice against Chart B - to roll off against Chart C, it wasn't too bad.
By the end of the game it was flowing more easily, we both knew the orders and movement mechanisms easily enough, shooting was still the need to check against the charts every time, the hardest bit was figuring out what happens in a collision - it happened twice, with the CSS Chicora pin-balling between two Union monitors. A minute or two reading the rules book to make sure I understood it and I'd worked it out.
The biggest downside I found to this first game was the scattering of paperwork everywhere, it being a real nuisance to keep together and find the correct sheet asap. But, by turn 10 we both knew how things worked and the majority of the rules we'd figured out and retained to memory.
I would say the game would work best with a player with a good working knowledge of the rules, and another who has a some familiarity of them. Then new players could be added. It really was hard work with one person running the game and trying to play at the same time.
Apologies if I've got the wrong forum member.
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Starting positions: Union monitors to the left of the photo
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The Confederates: Virginia following Chicora line-astern
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from left: Weehawken, Monitor, Nahant
- There was two other games on the night, and I'll add what photos I can if the other players share the images they captured from the night.
Hi chaps, its been ages since i posted on this forum..sorry....
The WOTR figs are mine, and originally done for Impetus on 60mm - 30mm bases. I just put 6 bases together (3 retinue bills and 3 Longbowmen) together to form mixed retinue units. It worked quite well I think. Hail Caesar is great for big multiplayer games like this.
Roy, and Bodvoc, cheers for sharing the pics of our little club!
Steve
Quote from: RoyWilliamson on 10 September 2016, 10:05:02 AM
Westmarcher, I believe it was yourself who asked me how I found the Smoke on the Water rules, in a comment earlier in the year.
Well, a part from the bouncing between roll on Chart A - now dice against Chart B - to roll off against Chart C, it wasn't too bad.
By the end of the game it was flowing more easily, we both knew the orders and movement mechanisms easily enough, shooting was still the need to check against the charts every time, the hardest bit was figuring out what happens in a collision - it happened twice, with the CSS Chicora pin-balling between two Union monitors. A minute or two reading the rules book to make sure I understood it and I'd worked it out.
The biggest downside I found to this first game was the scattering of paperwork everywhere, it being a real nuisance to keep together and find the correct sheet asap. But, by turn 10 we both knew how things worked and the majority of the rules we'd figured out and retained to memory.
I would say the game would work best with a player with a good working knowledge of the rules, and another who has a some familiarity of them. Then new players could be added. It really was hard work with one person running the game and trying to play at the same time.
Apologies if I've got the wrong forum member.
Possibly was me, Roy (sorry, I cannot remember :-[ - it's me age) because I was genuinely interested to read how you to on with them and what your thoughts were. I read them a long time ago after seeing them used by the SESWC in Edinburgh on Angus Konstam's website but have never played them. I seem to recall that they used 'wake' markers placed behind the vessels to denote speed - 1 for slow and 2 or 3 (in a line) for faster speeds. Thanks for your views. Attractive models and layout. :-bd
It was another fun night last night with 3 good looking games that seem to showcase a small, fledgling club well.
In keeping with my love of ugly military hardware, I've always liked ACW ironclads.
The CSS Virginia would be about 20" long and 4" wide in the one true scale. :-\
That's do-able isn't it?
Quote from: Westmarcher on 10 September 2016, 11:57:41 AM
Possibly was me, Roy (sorry, I cannot remember :-[ - it's me age) because I was genuinely interested to read how you to on with them and what your thoughts were. I read them a long time ago after seeing them used by the SESWC in Edinburgh on Angus Konstam's website but have never played them. I seem to recall that they used 'wake' markers placed behind the vessels to denote speed - 1 for slow and 2 or 3 (in a line) for faster speeds. Thanks for your views. Attractive models and layout. :-bd
No worries. I'm sure it was yourself.
Yes, I remember the wake markers and did think about them during the game. One thing that is a definite, is you need maker tokens in this game. Keeping track on speed to figure out the shooting modifiers is the issue, also collision impact speed. I'd have been lost trying to keep tabs on the five vessels without the game markers, so they're definitely a necessity in my opinion.
Next biggest thing was remembering which guns had shot - Virginia was a sailing artillery battery, so I had to turn the ship's data sheet piece of paper to correspond with how the model was and with my finger against the required guns went down the broadsides - crossing off the gun that irreparable jammed. Working out which gun could then be trained on to the target, with the guide templates and the base's white dots, all added to the time spent on gunnery.
The monitors were far easier. "Those two can't shoot behind themselves. That one can't shoot ahead. They've all got two guns. Heavy and Super Heavy being the various types."
Another issue being back and forth with the paper data sheets to reference armour thickness on the various target locations.
Anyway, it gets easier as you go along and I'd certainly play it again - but not every week, as it would leave me pulling my hair out! ~X(
Here's some further photos, borrowed from James (who took the forum meet picture at York)
6mm Ancients (Bodvoc & Pete)
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15mm WW2 - Flames of War [Yorkie and James]
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In the background of that last photo you can see me (ginger hair, sweating my balls off next to the radiator - why did I sit next to it?!) and John
Really good pictures those, showing our games off very well. :)
Nice looking games, though the Ancients battlefield looks a little bare to me.
I do like the effect of massed ranks of 6mm figures.
Slightly puzzled by what appears to be a cavalryman leading a unit of cows and pack mules??
Also like the look of 6mm on large table.
Noticed a horse unit with two man crews? Pilot and weapons?
As to the afore mentioned supply unit? (pack animals and cattle), I think of stampedes being used as weapons - the ancient equivalent of drones?
QuoteSlightly puzzled by what appears to be a cavalryman leading a unit of cows and pack mules??
It is just a baggage element being moved forward for some reason. I made it out of spare figures and a few cattle.
The horse unit with 2 man crews are arab camel riders on the Persian side.
We played on a 6x4 table, experimenting with using inches (normally done in 28mm) and we fair zoomed across the table.
Looks like you have a great club going there chaps. Wish you all every success with it. :-bd :-bd =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
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Looks like the club is off to a good start :)
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Cheers - Phil
Well, our little club is certainly having a few hiccups! Today six of turned up at the village hall with 3 games planned, only to be told the hall was double booked and we were the ones to lose out. Very annoying as some of our players had driven for an hour to get there. This is the second time they have messed us about, at first we were told we could have the hall every second Friday no problem. After just one meeting we were then told they had been asked by the local bowls club if they could have Friday's so we were ousted then. We have decided to look elsewhere for a more dependable location!
Meanwhile most of us then went onto one of the players houses which is quite close by and had an excellent game of 15mm Impetus set in the Crusades.
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The Crusaders charged to an easy win, I was on the other side! my dice throwing was so bad I could not pass a single Discipline test all game!
Not sure where we will play our next game but we are looking at another village hall.
Good luck with that. :'(
Good luck with finding a dependable venue
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Great looking figures in the Crusade game
Quote from: paulr on 25 September 2016, 07:54:44 PM
Good luck with finding a dependable venue
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Great looking figures in the Crusade game
+1, to both bits, is that +2?
Same from me !
Cheers - Phil
Thanks for the good wishes guy's :)
We are looking at another village hall not too far from the first one where one of our group actually lives so we may get a regular spot for our gaming soon.
QuoteMeanwhile most of us then went onto one of the players houses
Me being not part of the "most of us". I went home, to get some much needed sleep. (:| I-)
Church Hall across the road from me (where one of my old clubs used to hang out, when it was cheap to hire the place) costs £7.50 an hour - hiring the use of their tables costs extra - a £50 deposit needs to be paid in advance of all bookings, to be returned once the hall is inspected after use and all is found acceptable - two people have to be on-site at all times to act as Fire Wardens and ensure 'elf and safety - Money being paid in cheque to the Diocese of Ripon.
I don't think we'll be using the Church Hall
Link to the blog post concerning last nights club meet
http://nevermindthejankers.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/club-night-ancients-tts-saga.html (http://nevermindthejankers.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/club-night-ancients-tts-saga.html)
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Bodvoc and myself (+James) playing 6mm To the Strongest! (using Bodvoc's lovely painted figs and terrain)
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John and Pete playing SAGA (notice John in the picture getting out a fiver? he isn't trying to bribe Pete into letting him win, I promise you ;) )
We had a good close game Roy, another fun games night.
Faustus Furius 28mm Chariot Racing
There's an all-dayer club meet on Friday, and I'm hoping to put on a game of Faustus Furius Chariot Racing (with a little aid from another gamer, who's providing a few more chariots).
So I've been working on what I do have for the game, clearing the painting table before 2017 arrives. All that's left to do with these is varnish - and paint on a Finish Line on the board (haven't decided how best to do this yet).
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Chariot crews are Colonel Bills (conversions). Chariots are 4Ground - bought from Colonel Bills. Horses are Colonel Bills. Civilians are a mix of Crusader Miniatures and Foundry.
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Well done those of you who've spotted that they're driving on the wrong side of the road - They're meant to be going anti-clockwise!
Not sure what detail work to add to the board - apart from a finishing line and, separate, start line - as the whole thing is very much a 'basic' layout to aid transport and group gaming. The board will comfortably fit 6 - 8 chariots all at once.
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Dirty tricks: Oil Spills and Caltrops, both cause chariots passing through them to spin out / lose control. Amphora are from Baueda. There's also the chance to incite the Mob to 'pitch invade', or, should a player roll particularly badly, the Mob could just invade anyway!
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Caltrops are home-made, using Greenstuff and florist wire (formers for the vertical spikes).
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Measurement sticks and Turn templates (ignore the board they're laid upon, please).
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Long / Medium / Short measurements, 0 - 45 degree template, and 46 - 90 degree template.
All that's left to do now for Friday is finish basing some Ancient Germans (belonging Impetus / To the Strongest!), and then varnish everything.
Cheers,
Roy
Love it
Looks great fun. :)
Just as a matter of interest.....Would spilled oil on the track have much effect ?
I'd always assumed (probably incorrectly, as per usual) that the chariot race tracks were basically sand.....Wouldn't the oil simply soak into it ?
Cheers - Phil
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looks great, sounds like a good fun day coming up on Friday.
Quote from: Techno on 28 December 2016, 05:13:12 PM
Just as a matter of interest.....Would spilled oil on the track have much effect ?
I'd always assumed (probably incorrectly, as per usual) that the chariot race tracks were basically sand.....Wouldn't the oil simply soak into it ?
I suspect its more Hollywood, than historical!
Looks great Roy, I am looking forward to having a go.
Quote from: Techno on 28 December 2016, 05:13:12 PM
I'd always assumed (probably incorrectly, as per usual) that the chariot race tracks were basically sand.....Wouldn't the oil simply soak into it ?
As far as I know it was sand / that type of track surface. My fault really, I should have mentioned what Fred has done, below.
Quote from: fred. on 28 December 2016, 05:52:57 PM
I suspect its more Hollywood, than historical!
Yes, the rules are very much non-historical. Or, probably, they're condensing hundreds of years of rare occurrences into featuring in every race, and allowing for scythed chariots / archery / Roman Scorpion bolt thrower chariots. It can be played historically, or as an absolute lark, depending upon the crowd / seriousness of those involved / level of drunkenness.
I just wanted an easy game that can be played as a laugh - club mates backstabbing and forgetting the fact that the game is meant to be a race as they simply ram into each other.
Quote from: fred. on 28 December 2016, 05:52:57 PM
sounds like a good fun day coming up on Friday.
Hope so. Got at least two chaps coming over for the day. One of them bringing his Cowboy shoot-out game that he normally tours the shows with.
Quote from: RoyWilliamson on 28 December 2016, 07:11:24 PM
I just wanted an easy game that can be played as a laugh - club mates backstabbing and forgetting the fact that the game is meant to be a race as they simply ram into each other.
Like Phil, I too, wondered how caltrops could give you the skids :-\ . Anyhoo, as caltrops are designed to hobble a horse, how about this for a rule:- When a chariot runs over a caltrop marker, first dice to see if it has any effect. If it does, the chariot has to make a 'pit-stop' to get the caltrop removed from the horse's hoof ... except ... the 'pit-stop' has to be in the middle of the track and the 'pit-stop' crew have got to run out onto the track with all its attendant running over type risks - and get back again safely - to carry out the 'repair.' (I'm sure you will be able to make up the appropriate move rates and dicing rules, etc.) ;D
We played a gladiator themed game like this at the Shrewsbury club in the late 80s or early 90s, rules were you had to bring a gladiator to take part. The game was last thing so you had to hand in your gladiator early so his rules could be 'written'!
My mate Dean bought a 28mm Bloodbowl ogre that I still have, with an I ♥️ mum tattoo and two drilled out hand for a plastic spear and sword. He was a brute!
Quoterules were you had to bring a gladiator to take part
Now that is a good idea for the next game :)
Rules being used are these (on Friday at least)
http://www.wargamevault.com/product/188101/Faustus-Furius (http://www.wargamevault.com/product/188101/Faustus-Furius)
But I've already started thinking up changes / house rules / amendments to them. Next job (don't know when) will be to buy / convert some more chariots. Currently got my eye on some dromedaries to have a go at making a camel chariot.
28mm Ancient Germans
Following on from yesterday's Ancient Chariot Racing post (clearing the painting desk / preparing for Friday's all-day club game), here's the Ancient Germans that I mentioned.
Based up on 60mm (frontage) bases. With 50mm (depth) for the Warrior bases and 30mm (depth) for the Light Infantry bases.
They'll see use as either the Germanic Teutons or the Cimbri peoples in games, be it Basic Impetus or To the Strongest! Obviously there's not enough painted yet for a full army - for TtS! the photos show x1 Warrior unit (deep)*, 3x Hero, 2x Light Infantry unit (javelin), 1x Camp / for Basic Impetus the photo'd items translate to x3 Warbands (FL) and 3x Javelinmen (S).
*we use 180mm (frontage) units in our club's games
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They're going to see use tomorrow in a game of Impetus, as a club member has entered into the Impetus competition at the York show 2017.
Cheers,
Roy
Top work Roy :)
Hear, hear !
Cheers - Phil
Nice one Roy =D> =D> =D>
My report of today's all-day meet
http://nevermindthejankers.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/last-club-meet-of-2016.html (http://nevermindthejankers.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/last-club-meet-of-2016.html)
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Our Pendraken stuff isn't painted yet ... We do all have some, honest. Actually, when I think about it, all seven of us present today do have Pendraken kit. Cool.
Chariots look great!
Great stuff, Roy !
Cheers - Phil
Great photos and write -up Roy, it certainly was a fun day of gaming. :)
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Looks like a good time was had by all, particularly John ;) :)
Been painting stuff other than 10mm to offer for the club... Hint. Hint. Gi's a game chaps :P
Star Trek Attack Wing Klingons (don't mention the scale!)
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Star Wars X-Wing Scum & Villainy (these should also see use at the Redcar Ironbeards club)
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Skywalker now knows what my 'army' looks like :'(
And I repainted a Wings of War aeroplane
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Other photos and paint recipe thingy (for the WW1 model) can be found on here -
http://justsometabletopgaming.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://justsometabletopgaming.blogspot.co.uk/)
Nice work! :)
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Cheers -Phil.
Good stuff Roy. :)
Very nice Roy :-bd :-bd =D> =D> =D>
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Thank you