This batch of releases includes a variety of revamps along with some new additions as well.
For the British, we've got the first of the new Shermans rolling out of the factory with the M4A4 75mm and Firefly ready, plus some new M4A1 types. Plus we've also got a new Grant ARV ready to drag some broken armour to safety.
For the Soviets, we've had the SU-85 / SU-100 / SU-122 revamped as well, so those are now crisp new models. And finally we've got a few new additions, including the Morser gun for the Germans, a C33/35 tankette for the Italians and an AMC Schneider P16 armoured car.
WWII
British - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/World-War-II-c19/British-sc124/
BR30 M4A4 Sherman, 75mm £3.00
BR33 M4A4 Sherman Firefly, 17pdr £3.00
BR181 M4A4 Sherman, 75mm with turret back box £3.00
BR182 M4A1 Sherman, 75mm £3.00
BR183 M4A1 Sherman, 75mm with turret back box £3.00
BR184 Grant ARV £3.00
Russian - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/World-War-II-c19/British-sc124/
SV10 SU-85 £3.00
SV11 SU-100 £3.00
SV12 SU-122 £3.00
German - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/World-War-II-c19/German-sc125/
GR242 Skoda 30.5cm Morser M11 gun, deployed with crew (1) £3.00
Italian - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/World-War-II-c19/Italian-sc126/
ITA25 C33/35 command tankette (2) £2.80
French - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/World-War-II-c19/French-sc127/
FRE58 AMC Schneider P16 A/C £2.80
And some pics of these:
BR33 - M4A4 Sherman Firefly, 17pdr
(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/BR33.JPG)
BR182 - M4A1 Sherman, 75mm gun
(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/BR182.JPG)
BR184 - Grant ARV
(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/BR184.JPG)
SV11 - SU-100
(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/SV11.JPG)
FRE58 - AMC Schneider P16 A/C
(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/FRE58.JPG)
Hadn't realised the Schneider looked so like the Firefly :)
Shouldn't it look like this?
(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/FRE58.JPG)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 14 August 2016, 03:40:07 AM
Hadn't realised the Schneider looked so like the Firefly :)
:P
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Cheers - Phil
I have just received some of the revamped Shermans. They are somewhat larger, noticeably so, than the model they have replaced. Is there a good reason for this? Can those who have the old, smaller models, order the earlier models in future for the sake of compatibility? Or do we have to replace all of the earlier models?
I think i asked the same question when the T34's where redone, but cant find the thread...
Found it:
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,13275.msg184566.html#msg184566
Its a bit odd when price of materials is such a constant refrain, and then the size is increased to an unwelcome extent.
Quote from: holdfast on 18 August 2016, 12:03:05 PM
Its a bit odd when price of materials is such a constant refrain, and then the size is increased to an unwelcome extent.
I'm delighted with the new sculpts so it's not universally unwelcome. Plus they will make old sculpts available while they can. Sounds pretty good to me.
I will have stuff that will not match, but I am happy to see the improvements in the line. The new vehicles do look lovely and it is essential that 10mm aesthetically stays ahead of the game because 6mm is making its own improvements.
Quote from: holdfast on 18 August 2016, 12:03:05 PM
Its a bit odd when price of materials is such a constant refrain, and then the size is increased to an unwelcome extent.
As mentioned in the thread Peter linked to, many of the older vehicles in the catalogue were originally modelled nearly 20 years ago now, so they're not up to modern sculpting standards. Also, some of them weren't modelled to the 1:150th scale we work to either, so they were a lot smaller than they should be. These new ones are all scaled correctly and will hopefully last another 20 years!
As an added bonus with the new BKC coming along, new players to the period will be buying better quality models and will see how good 10mm can look.
We can always send out the old ones if people want to complete existing armies as well.
Interesting... I bought my KV minis from... another source... 8) because the PD ones looked a bit weedy. Are the new KV types bigger too?
Quote from: Wulf on 18 August 2016, 01:50:08 PM
Interesting... I bought my KV minis from... another source... 8) because the PD ones looked a bit weedy. Are the new KV types bigger too?
Yep, all bigger and much more imposing.
I have the new Tiger and its a real chunk of metal, love it.
"Heavy Panzer on the prowl" - for those, like me, who played way too much Company of Heroes
All very well, but there ought to be a health warning that indicates that scale creep has happened in these cases. One buys the stuff in good faith. Given the size difference and the numbers involved I would have chosen the compatible models ahead of the slightly crisperbut less compatible ones.
I love the Schneider A/C.
Will you be doing any more Amphibious vehicles? I really like those
Quote from: holdfast on 18 August 2016, 07:15:02 PM
All very well, but there ought to be a health warning that indicates that scale creep has happened in these cases. One buys the stuff in good faith. Given the size difference and the numbers involved I would have chosen the compatible models ahead of the slightly crisperbut less compatible ones.
In the circumstances and given Pendraken's normally excellent customer service, it might be worth having a quiet word with Leon and seeing if something can be worked out.
Quote from: holdfast on 18 August 2016, 07:15:02 PM
All very well, but there ought to be a health warning that indicates that scale creep has happened in these cases. One buys the stuff in good faith. Given the size difference and the numbers involved I would have chosen the compatible models ahead of the slightly crisperbut less compatible ones.
It's not really scale creep though, more replacing old models with better quality and correctly scaled ones. It's the same as replacing older figure ranges with better sculpts, we're always trying to put out the best product we can.
We can swap them over you if you like, it's no problem at all. Let me know or drop me an email and we can sort that out.
Quote from: Duckman on 18 August 2016, 07:22:56 PM
Will you be doing any more Amphibious vehicles? I really like those
Nothing planned at the moment unfortunately, it's not something we've had many requests for.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 18 August 2016, 05:34:53 PM
I have the new Tiger and its a real chunk of metal, love it.
"Heavy Panzer on the prowl" - for those, like me, who played way too much Company of Heroes
Don't happen to have a comparison pic next to the old tiger do you? pretty please 8->
Don't have the new one even assembled and the old ones are only part painted but here's a couple of images.
Noticeably bigger in these pictures, less so once on the table, I suspect.
The 3 older versions are going to be my Tiger company, the new one will be a mothership for one on my Goliath teams.
Quote from: holdfast on 18 August 2016, 07:15:02 PM
All very well, but there ought to be a health warning that indicates that scale creep has happened in these cases. One buys the stuff in good faith. Given the size difference and the numbers involved I would have chosen the compatible models ahead of the slightly crisperbut less compatible ones.
All the older models are still available and will not be dropped from sales to cater for people such as yourself who have already invested, once the new website comes we will list them separately for this very eventuality, its not scale creep as such as some of the initially vehicles were made undersize and we had errors on shape, the other big problem the designer does not do any design work anymore. Also we have to try and keep our models current with other manufacturers - you have probably seen the comments on a on line blog comparing the tank destroyer with other ranges and being undersize for example - plus customer feedback. All these we have to take into consideration.
None of this have we gone into lightly, some of the lads on the forum can support this as we have discussed it at shows.
Dave
A fully understandable and sensible policy.
You can please all of the customers some of the time, some of the customers all of the time but you can't please all of the customers all of the time :)
"We don't want accuracy, we want consistent inaccuracy!"
...er...nope... ;D
Wha ????
Quote from: holdfast on 18 August 2016, 07:15:02 PM
All very well, but there ought to be a health warning that indicates that scale creep has happened in these cases. One buys the stuff in good faith. Given the size difference and the numbers involved I would have chosen the compatible models ahead of the slightly crisperbut less compatible ones.
Quote from: Leon on 18 August 2016, 11:01:40 PM
We can swap them over you if you like, it's no problem at all. Let me know or drop me an email and we can sort that out.
Once again the excellent service we have come to expect from all at Pendraken comes to the fore.
I feel that this issue should have been taken up privately with Dave or Leon. Not aired publically on the Forum before they had even given a chance to rectify the issue you had
Quote from: Ithoriel on 20 August 2016, 12:50:45 AM
Don't have the new one even assembled and the old ones are only part painted but here's a couple of images.
Noticeably bigger in these pictures, less so once on the table, I suspect.
The 3 older versions are going to be my Tiger company, the new one will be a mothership for one on my Goliath teams.
Thanks!
I have had a conversation off-line and am happy that both the originals and the new versions will both be available, and the matter has been satisfactorily resolved.
Quote from: holdfast on 31 August 2016, 03:36:52 PM
I have had a conversation off-line and am happy that both the originals and the new versions will both be available, and the matter has been satisfactorily resolved.
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Picked up a couple of early T34s at Reiver. Match up well with my Takara 1/144 so well pleased. Liked looks of some other new stuff too...including the tigger, Ferrets and M11/39.
Have read dislikes of 'chunky' tracks on some models. I think that clogged up with mud, that will be much less noticeable than in photos. I gave my T34s a bit of 'track sag' by rolling a knife handle along upper surface of new separate track pieces...works well. Couple of long box-things on the hull from strip and they look the part. Turret a little shorter than Takara but saves some fiddly conversion work for a couple of Model 1940's. :) :)
Ps: great service on provision of some gun crews ordered without guns, too. :) :)