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Title: Nap. Austrian
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 31 July 2016, 02:57:01 PM
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/922/FuslN1.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/923/NxlPEB.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/922/90e31y.jpg)
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Post by: Dazza on 31 July 2016, 02:58:46 PM
Looking awesome :)

=D>
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Post by: Techno on 31 July 2016, 03:19:28 PM
Those are very, very nice !  :-bd
Splendid work, that man.

Cheers - Mr Jealous.
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Post by: Fenton on 31 July 2016, 03:31:15 PM
Lovely work Andreas. Just as superb as your 6mm figures
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Post by: Norm on 31 July 2016, 03:53:05 PM
Very nice - what base dimensions have you used ?
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 July 2016, 03:55:15 PM
So cool!
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Post by: Andreas Hofer on 31 July 2016, 03:58:50 PM
@ all ....thanks, but I'm not really satisfied

@Norm......base size is 50x35 mm
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Post by: fred. on 31 July 2016, 04:09:22 PM
Quote from: Andreas Hofer on 31 July 2016, 03:58:50 PM
@ all ....thanks, but I'm not really satisfied


They look great to me, you must have very high standards, if you're not satisfied with them!

What do you think could be better?
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Post by: nikharwood on 31 July 2016, 10:34:32 PM
Well now, those are lovely 8)
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Post by: kev1964 on 01 August 2016, 06:28:09 AM
Great work Andreas, i have been a follower  of your 6mm  painting for a long time ,  it's nice to see your 10s now.


kev
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Post by: Leman on 01 August 2016, 08:13:03 AM
Very nice work. Big base leads me to suspect Blucher.
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Post by: skywalker on 01 August 2016, 12:20:45 PM
very nicely painted and based  =D> =D> =D>
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Post by: Mostyn on 02 August 2016, 10:44:47 PM
Very nice. Love the crisp yellow.
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Post by: Shutuphippie on 02 August 2016, 10:57:13 PM
Outstanding work - I've never quite got the knack of painting Austrians. Tried it at 6mm and they just didn't look right lol


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Post by: ronan on 03 August 2016, 05:52:00 PM
Splendid !
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Post by: Nosher on 04 August 2016, 08:54:39 AM
50x30 is a bit small base wise for blucher, but if both armies are the same it wouldnt matter that much
Title: Re: Nap. Austrian
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 04 August 2016, 11:25:47 AM
Its not for Blucher , i use it for Command & Colours , Black Powder and Kugelhagel .....(Kugelhagel are Germen rules for Nap and ACW)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/922/P2PzMg.jpg)
Title: Re: Nap. Austrian
Post by: Westmarcher on 04 August 2016, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: Andreas Hofer on 31 July 2016, 03:58:50 PM
@ all ....thanks, but I'm not really satisfied

Well, if you feel like giving them away, please put my name down.   :)

Quote from: Shutuphippie on 02 August 2016, 10:57:13 PM
Outstanding work - I've never quite got the knack of painting Austrians.


Me neither. I thought, you simply needed to paint them white. Easy?

No! It takes a bit of skill to paint Austrians. Good job, sir!  =D>
Title: Re: Nap. Austrian
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 06 August 2016, 10:03:30 PM

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/bLopuV.jpg)
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 August 2016, 12:40:10 AM
Superb
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Post by: Techno on 07 August 2016, 08:10:38 AM
Really lovely stuff again. Andreas !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil

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Post by: Jesus on 23 August 2016, 11:19:34 PM
Guauuuuuuuuuu
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Post by: skywalker on 24 August 2016, 12:24:48 PM
Fantastic painting  =D> =D> =D> :-bd :-bd
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Post by: Andreas Hofer on 24 August 2016, 09:25:06 PM
 My interpretation of Austrian Artillery.
I know..... maybe the Brown colour from the uniform is too bright , but i like it .


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320x240q90/924/1tnS7x.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320x240q90/921/2ScDSH.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/9800/G5mE3G.jpg)
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Post by: fred. on 24 August 2016, 09:38:43 PM
Very nice Andreas
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 August 2016, 09:56:48 PM
Looks great! 8)
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Post by: paulr on 24 August 2016, 10:35:44 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
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Post by: ronan on 25 August 2016, 12:13:28 PM
Amazing !
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Post by: Techno on 25 August 2016, 01:48:13 PM
Very, very nice, Andreas !  8)

Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Rob on 25 August 2016, 07:01:23 PM
Really beautifull painting.  :)
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Post by: Westmarcher on 25 August 2016, 08:45:25 PM
Amaazzzing detail there, Andreas! Almost crazily so! Well done, again!  =D>
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Post by: toxicpixie on 26 August 2016, 09:17:58 AM
Superb - both infantry and artillery. I've never been massively happy with my Austrians (although they're 6mm ;)), white on white with white is a bugger, but those have totally nailed it. I went for a similar brown on my arty crews as well, thought it looked much better "in scale" than a darker brown! Good choice :D
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Post by: mart678 on 26 August 2016, 01:38:23 PM
Very nice
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Post by: Leman on 26 August 2016, 02:14:06 PM
It's the black undercoat method. I have tried and tried but I just cannot master it. Thank goodness for magic wash.
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Post by: Andreas Hofer on 28 August 2016, 06:20:17 PM
Salzburger Landwehr
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/924/TemDZT.jpg)

everything I've done until now
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/923/3Iv5HU.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/922/wnCTef.jpg)
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Post by: ronan on 28 August 2016, 06:22:00 PM
I love them !
:-bd
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Post by: toxicpixie on 28 August 2016, 06:38:50 PM
Looking very good! What rules they for? That's a pretty tasty Blucher corps with a cavalry brigade or two ;)
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Post by: Andreas Hofer on 28 August 2016, 07:02:21 PM
Thanks to all ,

@toxicpixie : i use command and colours , Black Powder and Kugelhagel , but to use it for command and colours i need much muuuuch muuuuuch more bases  #-o
Indeed, to start for BP and Kugelhagel i paint up 2 infantry and 1 cavalry brigade..... each contains 3 regiments and 1 artillery


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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 August 2016, 07:16:54 PM
Very beautiful
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Post by: toxicpixie on 28 August 2016, 09:39:10 PM
Six big based infantry, three cavalry and three massed batteries, that's a good taster for Blucher if it takes your fancy!

Very nice, whatever rules you end up playing!
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Post by: Leon on 29 August 2016, 12:12:30 AM
These are fantastic, really nice!

8)
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Post by: paulr on 29 August 2016, 04:21:32 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
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Post by: Techno on 29 August 2016, 06:38:16 AM
Very, very nice work, Andreas !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
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Post by: nikharwood on 02 September 2016, 09:52:09 PM
Superbly done 8)
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Post by: Leon026 on 03 September 2016, 02:37:57 PM
If it hasnt been asked already, where are the flags from?
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Post by: Andreas Hofer on 04 September 2016, 08:56:33 AM
Pendraken  ;)
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Post by: Leon026 on 04 September 2016, 12:32:05 PM
:O

I really need to stop hand painting mine then!

Mind sharing what you also used for the basing? It's making me jealous and wishing I didn't use pure dead/sun-burnt grass for mine : ((
Title: Re: Nap. Austrian
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 04 September 2016, 04:57:06 PM
Hi Leon ,

respect for your handmade flags and generally for your work ! ( i follow your blog )

For basing , i realy like the 10mm bases with sun-burnt grass . It looks very interesting with the dark Brown bases for me, something different !
Autumnal prairie in russia is my thought in mind .

For my basing i use a lot of Products from http://www.mininatur.com/products_productoverview_details.php?lang=en&id=727&kat=2&sub=1&scale=&finish= (http://www.mininatur.com/products_productoverview_details.php?lang=en&id=727&kat=2&sub=1&scale=&finish=)
and thin twigs and little stones that I find by go for a walk  ;)

You see , very simple....... you do not have to be jealous......with the words of captain Jean-Luc Picard : MAKE IT SO !!  m/
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Post by: Leon026 on 07 September 2016, 02:46:00 PM
Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for the link, I'm going to check it out!

I've been taking a slight break from painting 10mm (been painting a lot of Kingdom Death: Monster miniatures for the past few months), but I'm restarting to finish some Bavarians :)
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Post by: Andreas Hofer on 02 October 2016, 07:38:33 PM
Me and a little Austrian Grenadier in the Erzherzog Carl Museum in Deutsch-Wagram .
(http://i66.tinypic.com/29cnebp.jpg)
and a perfect 1:1 copy  =O
(http://i65.tinypic.com/k71bs.jpg)
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Post by: fsn on 02 October 2016, 08:16:02 PM
Like it!

Are you particularly tall, or is the grenadier really short?
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Post by: Andreas Hofer on 02 October 2016, 08:28:52 PM
Yes i am tall  193cm or 75,9 inches  ;)
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Post by: fsn on 02 October 2016, 09:05:52 PM
6'4"!

Wow!

Should have been able to calculate that from the musket!  :(
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Post by: Leman on 02 October 2016, 10:04:49 PM
I guessed you must be tall as the grenadier appeared to be far too short to have been recruited otherwise.
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 02 October 2016, 10:27:44 PM
Great post
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Post by: Techno on 03 October 2016, 07:41:38 AM
Nice one !  :)
Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Jesus on 17 November 2016, 08:46:16 AM
Do you have more photos of the museum ?. When I went it was closed
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Post by: Andreas Hofer on 14 March 2017, 07:18:06 PM
Sorry Jesus but this is the only Photo.

After a long break some news from my painting Table.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/b89qn6.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/59y684.jpg)

Cheerio !
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Post by: Techno on 14 March 2017, 08:01:25 PM
They're rather splendid, Andreas.  :-bd

Super job, on those !

Cheers - Phil.
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Post by: PERKY on 14 March 2017, 08:48:45 PM
Wow can't find the words to say . really really well painted !!! I have 18mm AB Austrians that are no where near this level .Well done Andreas 
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 March 2017, 10:41:39 PM
Briliant
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Post by: Terry37 on 15 March 2017, 02:56:33 AM
One of my all time favorite armies, and one that can be sooooo colorful. I wrote an article with input from Dave Hollins that was posted in the Clash of Arms site, but seems to be gone now. However, I kept a copy of the text so will share it here in case it might be of use.

Austrian Napoleonic Facing Colors
Matched to Vallejo Paint Colors
by Dave Hollins and Terry Webb

This project is an attempt to match the various facing colors used by the Austrians during the Napoleonic Wars, with an emphasis on the 1st and 2nd Coalition time periods. It is the result of a joint effort by Dave Hollins and Terry Webb. While Terry bought numerous bottles of paint and made many, many sample paint chip cards to match to color chips  Dave shared his exceptional knowledge on the subject of the Austrian army during this time period, advising on the validity of the paint match, and  shared numerous sources to help in the validation.

We do not claim that this is an absolute final effort as the subject of facing colors made of dyed fabrics several hundred years ago can only be open to far too many interpretations. The many reasons for such interpretations is not of importance to this effort as for the most part, they are probably already understood, and the focus is really a useable color chart of existing paints to go by. And lastly, it must be said that for a couple of the facing colors there were no exact or even close matches found in the Vallejo line of paints, and this will be identified. However were possible the closest match possible is made. Therefore, we feel this is a valid reference source for use by wargamers, model makers and reenactors. We gladly accept any responsible criticism, or input, be it positive or negative. 

In the list below we will identify the Austrian facing color, then the Vallejo paint color and lastly the Vallejo paint number.


Austrian Facing Color         Vallejo Paint Color       Vallejo Paint Number 

Sky Blue            Deep Sky Blue         844   

Bleumorant             Sky Blue            961

French Blue            Dark Blue            930

Dark Blue            Prussian Blue            965

Sea Green (1)            No Paint Match         ***

Apple Green            Lime Green            827

Grass Green – early (2)      Intermediate Green         891

Grass Green – late (2)         Flat Green            968

Steel Green            Gunship Green         895

Austrian Facing Color         Vallejo Paint Color       Vallejo Paint Number 

Scarlet               Scarlet               817

Red               Flat Red            031

Carmine            Sunset Red            802

Pompadour            Magenta            945

Sulfur Yellow            German Yellow         806

Kaiser Yellow            Flat Yellow            953

Orange               Gold Yellow (fantasy)         007

Crab Red            Light Brown            929

Light Brown            Ochre Brown            856

Dark Brown            Saddle Brown            940

Gris de Lin (3)            No Paint Match         ***

Rose Pink            Rose               958

Light Pike Gray (4)         Pale Blue            906

Black               Black               950

Parrot Green (5)         Dead Flesh            035

Violet               Violet               960


1. Sea Green -There is no real Vallejo match for this color. It is best described as a light green-blue color.

2. Grass green is a color that changed during the period of our discussion. It was originally a lighter shade than it became later in the Napoleonic period, thus the two different Vallejo paint references.

3. Gris de Lin - There is no Vallejo match for this color. It is a light mauve color.

4. Light Pike Gray – the subject of  the pike gray color used for uniforms and the light pike gray of the facing color is one often misrepresented as a strong gray shade. To better understand this color it is necessary to understand the origin of the term "pike" used in this color reference. Most probably assume it comes from the pole weapon, a pike, and thus expect it to be a strong gray color of the metal point, or assume that it will match the color of the very late war uniforms of this color or of even of the post Napoleonic War period. However, it derives from the German word "Hecht" that was used for the Pike Fish, and more specifically the blue that was found in the body of  this fish.  It did over time acquire more of a gray tint, but for the uniforms of the period covered by our effort it was a definite blue shade. The best match for the uniform color is Andrea Blue 841 during the 1st Coalition period and  the closest match for the 2nd Coalition period is Pastel Blue 901.  Thus the use of Pale Blue 906 is best to represent the Light Pike Gray of the uniform facing color.

5. Parrot Green – This, probably more than any other color, will cause the most  issue. Every source I've ever seen except two, shows this color to a light, bright green, with the emphasis on the green coloring. However the period schematics show this color to be a very strong yellowish green, with the emphasis more on the yellow than the green.  The first source which seems to correctly reflect this color I found in plate 21 in the book European Military Uniforms, a Short History  by Paul Martin published by Spring Books 1967, and originally published in German under the title Der Bunte Rocke in 1963.  The text accompanying this plate showing Austrian Hussars of the 4th Hessen-Homburg Regiment done by Adam von Bartsch (1757-1821) and Wilhelm von Kobell (1776-1855) says "The uniform shown here is that of the Austrian Hussar Regiment Hessen-Homburg No. 4, worn from 1767 with  few changes until the first third of the 19th century. The green color of the pelisse shows up as yellow on the print, in the detachment on the march in the background." . The second source I've found which correctly reflects this color is the wonderful set of prints done by Mollo, which show an officer and a trooper of the Hessen-Homburg Regiment No. 4. Both of these sources reflect the parrot green to be a really sort of ugly yellowish green color and matches very well to the Vallejo color listed above. The color selected, Vallejo Game Color Dead Flesh, is not a great match, but the best out of bottle match I could find. It is a good shade for wargaming figures, but a bit toward the gray side than the yellow side. Ideally I think it would be better were it a mix of Dead Flesh and Vallejo German Yellow 806, but the intent of this effort it to identify out of the bottle matches.


I hope this is not too long of a message to post.

Terry
Title: Re: Nap. Austrian
Post by: paulr on 15 March 2017, 03:14:00 AM
Andreas :-bd =D> :-bd =D>

Terry, useful posts are allowed  ;)
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Post by: jambo1 on 15 March 2017, 05:47:12 AM
Super stuff Andreas, some totally brilliant work there. :-bd :-bd :-bd  And great post to Terry!! :-bd :-bd :-bd
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Post by: Redstef on 15 March 2017, 09:46:24 AM
I'm a bit late to the party on this.......but they are superb, well done sir
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Post by: Westmarcher on 15 March 2017, 10:04:40 AM
Excellent stuff again, Big Man!  =D>

Perhaps we'll soon see them in action?