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Title: ACW wish list
Post by: grimreaper on 03 September 2010, 09:52:21 PM
any chance of anymore ACW stuff in the pipeline, and wagons etc.

also any terain and gun emplacements  etc.
Title: Re: ACW
Post by: grimreaper on 05 September 2010, 10:00:23 AM
  ?
Title: Re: ACW
Post by: Leon on 05 September 2010, 09:28:18 PM
Gimme chance!

The only ACW stuff we've got noted down is Iron Brigade at some point.  We might consider re-doing the artillery as well.

For gun emplacements, PS29 and PS30 could be used.

PS29:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3382/4560989328_76f2603790.jpg)
Title: Re: ACW
Post by: Jagger on 06 September 2010, 03:33:24 AM
If you could redo the artillery, that would be great.  They look good but they are a little small vs the men.  In real life, the guns are pretty tall.  To be fair, I haven't seen too many manufacturers get the scale of guns to men correct.  Most make the guns way too small.
Title: American Civil War Hardee Hat infantry
Post by: Jagger on 20 September 2010, 04:37:20 PM
Any chance we can get a pack of American Civil War infantry wearing the Hardee hat?   The ACW line is an excellent line but lacking the prominant hardee hat headgear.

The famous Iron Brigade wore the Hardee Hat.  In addition to the Iron Brigade, It was not unusual for early war regiments of both sides formed from militia to wear the Hardee hat.  Finally, I believe that a fair number of western theater Union regiments wore the Hardee Hat.

Any chances we might get a line of marching or advancing style infantry with Hardee Hat?
Title: Re: American Civil War Hardee Hat infantry
Post by: Blaker on 20 September 2010, 04:40:38 PM
Their old range had a pack of the Hardee Hat union infantry. I dont know if that pack is being redesigned, but I would vote to have it back  :D
Title: Re: American Civil War Hardee Hat infantry
Post by: Leon on 20 September 2010, 05:38:11 PM
We're wanting to do the Iron Brigade at some point, it's just a case of finding a gap in the design schedules.
Title: Re: American Civil War Hardee Hat infantry
Post by: Blaker on 20 September 2010, 08:29:59 PM
Very cool news  ;)
Title: ACW wish list
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 15 December 2010, 05:52:05 PM
Ok, I’m starting an ACW wish list because I believe a few things are missing from the current range. Please feel free to add to this list.

1. Limber Riders: I was surprised that there were no limber riders included with the limbers sets.

2. Ambulances W/ stretcher bearers: need for the Fire and Fury Regimental rules

3. More mounted commanders.
That’s all for now.   
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: ciaphas on 17 December 2010, 03:12:07 PM
can i second more command figures - maybe even personality figures.

also some 24pdr would be helpfull, also some howitzers.

jon
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leon on 19 December 2010, 02:44:42 AM
All added!
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 27 June 2011, 02:46:11 PM
Ok, I have a few additional items to add to the ACW wish list.
4. Zouaves in turbans
5. Zouaves in fez
6. Re-sculpt the cavalry; I would like to see them with more dramatic poses like some of the new Napoleonic stuff. Also you should offer two different packs one in forge caps and one in slouch hats.

Thanks
Bryan
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: maciek on 27 June 2011, 03:49:20 PM
On can notice very few poses in shell jackets among the infantry.
Please add more short / shell jackets. They can be even existing figures with jackets shortened.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Blaker on 27 June 2011, 11:20:05 PM
I vote for some Confederate cavalry with sabers or pistols or carbines or shotguns, just need some Rebel cav in slouch hat, please  :D
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leon on 07 July 2011, 03:52:05 AM
Votes added!
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 16 September 2011, 02:09:08 AM
Ok, with the announcement of the new and improved American Civil War range today, I have decided to offer some feedback as to what should be included in the range. First up is a list of command personalities that I think should be included. I divided them by side and region. I tried to keep each list to five commanders. Feedback would be appreciated.

Union East
McClellan
Meade
Burnside
Hancock
Hooker
Reynolds

Union West
Grant
Sherman
Rosecrans
Sheridan
Thomas

Confederate East
Lee
Jackson
Longstreet
Stuart
A.P. Hill

Confederate West
Bragg
Cleburne
Forrest
Hood
J.E. Johnston
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Mulciber on 16 September 2011, 08:34:10 AM
Quote from: Blaker on 27 June 2011, 11:20:05 PM
I vote for some Confederate cavalry with sabers or pistols or carbines or shotguns, just need some Rebel cav in slouch hat, please  :D

I'd second that, with a Quantrill personality figure?
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Dave T on 18 October 2011, 05:22:31 PM
Can I please add my vote for :

- Zouaves in Fez'
- Confederate styled cavalry (shotguns, pistols) with a bit more life in the pose instead of the current Napoleonic parade ground look.
- More mounted officer figures
- Hardee hat/Iron brigade figures
- Civilian figures (makes a nice touch for dressing scenary and for some raid or other scenarios)

Cheers,

Dave T.


Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 12 November 2011, 10:19:32 PM
Can you please add Howitzers to the wish list.
Thanks
Bryan
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 21 November 2011, 11:59:04 PM
When you get around to doing dismounted cavalry can you please included a commander and a standard bearer. 

Thanks
Bryan
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Pawel Chrzanowski on 22 November 2011, 09:49:53 AM
very nice but :)
frock coats !!!!!!!
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leon on 08 January 2012, 03:58:57 AM
Added!
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Le Manchou on 08 August 2016, 02:38:17 AM
Some years ago, General Bt Sherman added to his wish list a number of ACW personalities, some have been done, but there is still a lot missing, so I will add my vote for those:

Union East
McClellan
Meade
Burnside
Hancock
Hooker
Reynolds

Union West
Grant
Sherman
Rosecrans
Sheridan
Thomas

Confederate East
Lee
Jackson
Longstreet
Stuart
A.P. Hill

Confederate West
Bragg
Cleburne
Forrest
Hood
J.E. Johnston
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leon on 08 August 2016, 10:52:23 PM
The ones we chose were those which stood out in terms of appearance, making them easier to sculpt and then be identified as who they should be.  Any future generals would likely follow that same theory, so we'd need to pick out the more distinguishable guys from that list.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 09 August 2016, 07:35:52 AM
Would have thought Stonewall would stand out with his left arm in the air !!

IanS
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 09 August 2016, 02:36:34 PM
It's funny that this subject came up just as I was finally preparing to paint my generals.

Well you can take Hooker, Thomas, Jackson, Longstreet, Jackson, Hill, Bragg, Cleburne, and Forrest off the list. These have all been covered by another company. That leaves Meade and Hancock. Both of these would be great to have. I took Reynolds off the list because I don't think he's necessary. If you want to do more Confederates I would say Pickett and Beauregard would be next on my list.

I would really love to see more generic brigade commanders. For some reason there just isn't very many available at the moment.

Bryan
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 09 August 2016, 02:43:53 PM
Oh, I forgot about "Old Rosy" Rosecrans!

Bryan
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Le Manchou on 09 August 2016, 03:17:17 PM
and one legged Ewell !
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Dave Fielder on 01 September 2016, 11:45:38 PM
I wish, I wish ....  I wish someone would paint my ACW armies whilst I'm at work and then set them up for a game ready for home time
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: fred. on 02 September 2016, 10:41:59 AM
That would be very nice.

Perhaps you need to be-friend a nice retired chap, then he could prepare games ready for you?

Or perhaps you need to propose a course - 'A detailed comparison of mid-nineteenth century warfare and tactics and its application to modern combined arms operations.' Then you could game at work!
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leman on 02 September 2016, 12:39:16 PM
I'm a nice retired chap and I'm far too busy trying to get to the bottom of my own lead pile.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Ace of Spades on 05 December 2017, 02:29:11 PM
Gentlemen,

Even though the 'new' ACW line is quite extensive I would personally love some early war infantry units to be added; most can be done from troops in frockcoats (really knee length), both with and without fringed epaulettes. These troops would do fine in kepies for both sides, and one pose (like 'right shoulder sfhift') would do I guess. Another thing that would be nice for early war would be troops in shell jackets (or frock coats) wearing havelock kepies. Last but not least: troops in shirtsleeves/battleshirts wearing a variety of hats and kepies and different firearms for early war militia would also be great.
Maybe an artillery crew in frockcoats and kepies would also come in handy for both sides!

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leon on 06 June 2018, 11:00:46 PM
Votes added!
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Orcs on 09 June 2018, 02:09:55 PM
Yes some troops with mixed weapons inc shotguns  and hats for militia.  Perhaps  a pose or two  without weapons for gun crew. Putting on Hq bases etc
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leman on 09 June 2018, 07:57:24 PM
Some good suggestions for the early war there, and don't forget the early war would really benefit from a 6pdr gun model.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: OzarkOrc on 20 June 2018, 04:44:48 AM
Just had a quick browse here after a long absence from the hobby; 

Please add my vote for the 6# Guns (if not already counted), almost all the artillery at my local battle (Pea Ridge) was 6# or rifled 6# Tubes.
Also useful for any Mexican American war range.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leon on 20 June 2018, 11:08:53 AM
Has anyone got any dimensions for the 6pdr and how it compares to the other barrels?  We've got dozens of artillery pieces across our ranges now so there must be a barrel somewhere that be suitable for this.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leman on 20 June 2018, 11:33:24 AM
Here you go Leon. Various gun barrels from Jack Coggins' book:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1789/28047915327_e0a4d868e9_z.jpg)

Barrel lengths are given as follows in inches:

6pdr               60
12pdr 1841     78
12pdr how.     53
24pdr how.     65
32pdr how.     75
12pdr Nap.     66

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leon on 20 June 2018, 12:23:19 PM
Excellent, cheers for that.  So if we estimate the 6pdr barrel at around 60 inches, then that's 152cm then that's a 10mm length at our scale.  I'll have a look and see if we've got anything with a rounded end on it.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: OzarkOrc on 20 June 2018, 09:31:54 PM
IIRC, the muzzle swell is much less prominent;  Probably good to exaggerate in 10mm.  Maybe I will drive out to the Battlefield and see if I can score a picture of a real one.....

(Just had the Air Conditioning in my Truck repaired today, an essential even for a fifteen mile drive like that....)
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: OzarkOrc on 23 June 2018, 07:22:41 PM
Apologies, not at all like the illustrations in Coggins;  Well, the Profile is good, until you get to the muzzle swell.

My Scanning and linking skills are deficient;  Have posted (snail mail) a photocopie to Leon, extracted from "Field Artillery Weapons of the Civil War" by Olmstead, Hazlet & Parks, 1988.

The book has an enormous amount of technical and contract data on the manufacturers, many pictures of preserved weapons in the battlefield parks.

All wheels were a standard 57 inch diameter; (144.78 cm), for what it's worth.  Discussion on how all the carriages in the parks (NBP, "National Battlefield Parks") are cast iron replicas, because the original wood rotted.

That's 60" from the chase to the muzzle, not including the cascabel.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leon on 25 June 2018, 11:50:56 AM
Quote from: OzarkOrc on 23 June 2018, 07:22:41 PM
Have posted (snail mail) a photocopie to Leon, extracted from "Field Artillery Weapons of the Civil War" by Olmstead, Hazlet & Parks, 1988.

The book has an enormous amount of technical and contract data on the manufacturers, many pictures of preserved weapons in the battlefield parks.

All wheels were a standard 57 inch diameter; (144.78 cm), for what it's worth.  Discussion on how all the carriages in the parks (NBP, "National Battlefield Parks") are cast iron replicas, because the original wood rotted.

That's 60" from the chase to the muzzle, not including the cascabel.

Excellent, thanks for that!
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: OzarkOrc on 26 June 2018, 11:33:32 PM
Still poking around about the 6# ACW gun, what is really interesting is how convergent the Napoleonic ("Canon de 6 systeme An XI") and British "Light 6#" from the Peninsula and Waterloo are with the M1841;  All about the same weight and length. 

And the Napoleonic Glorification (Substitute for my standard Nazi Glorification rant);  Wikipedia has data on the French Systems (Gribeuval, etc); What was the nature of the (Captured) Austrian and Prussian 6# guns?

If there is a (British) 6# Napoleonic Gun on a Stock Trail Carriage, it is probably close enough for this scale.

I have a partial photocopy of a "Parks Canada" report on (their) artillery resources, discussing in passing the "Light 6#" and their holdings;  Both it and the 9# were cast up until 1862(?), presumably drawing on research at Woolwiich?  Apologies, at the local library, article not in front of me.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Dr Dave on 27 June 2018, 09:05:23 AM
Each formation from Brigade up carried a command flag that accompanied the general - these are often quite decorative affairs and add a splash of the unusual in a blue / grey world.

Could you do a pack of mounted "lancers" for either added command units OR the 6th Pennsylvania Cavalry - "Rush's Lancers".

OR forget the lancers and add them to the Generals / command packs - and put the Price up!?
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: parkerm17 on 23 September 2018, 11:36:28 AM
The ACW was the first "railway war" and no-one makes anything by way of locomotives and rolling stock in 10mm (N Gauge if you like).   The are just four things: a locomotive, a tender, a freight car and perhaps a passenger car: is there any chance?   I have been in touch with wargaming friends in the US and they cannot help
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Sunray on 23 September 2018, 02:15:35 PM
Quote from: parkerm17 on 23 September 2018, 11:36:28 AM
The ACW was the first "railway war" and no-one makes anything by way of locomotives and rolling stock in 10mm (N Gauge if you like).   The are just four things: a locomotive, a tender, a freight car and perhaps a passenger car: is there any chance?   I have been in touch with wargaming friends in the US and they cannot help

Most of us who like a railway on the table go with static Del Prado range to save cash. And YES, you can get ACW era engines like  American Standard "The General", (engine & tender)  currently on sale on ebay at £4.99.   

Freight cars and passage cars are freely available in N gauge, (I picked up a couple of the Shredded Wheat carriages)  and don't forget the Pendraken Boer war range of rolling stock.  :)
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: fsn on 23 September 2018, 04:00:07 PM
I am now minded to watch the Buster Keaton classic "The General".

If you haven't seen it - it is a genuine classic.

Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 September 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Anything with Keaton in is genius!
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Westmarcher on 23 September 2018, 11:22:37 PM
Great fan of Keaton. Fantastic that 'The General' is 92 years old and still funny!
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leon on 23 September 2018, 11:36:16 PM
Trains are always difficult to get into production as the costs of having them made is usually more than we'd ever make in sales unfortunately.  It's the same to a lesser degree with planes and helicopters.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Sunray on 24 September 2018, 07:16:16 AM
Quote from: Sunray on 23 September 2018, 02:15:35 PM
Most of us who like a railway on the table go with static Del Prado range to save cash. And YES, you can get ACW era engines like  American Standard "The General", (engine & tender)  currently on sale on ebay at £4.99.   

Freight cars and passage cars are freely available in N gauge, (I picked up a couple of the Shredded Wheat carriages)  and don't forget the Pendraken Boer war range of rolling stock.  :)

Go Del Prado - supplement with ebay carriages and the Pendraken Boer war range.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: parkerm17 on 24 September 2018, 08:42:08 AM
Many thanks helpful people: I will investigate further.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 September 2018, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: fsn on 23 September 2018, 04:00:07 PM
I am now minded to watch the Buster Keaton classic "The General".

If you haven't seen it - it is a genuine classic.



One of the movies I've been using to persuade my better half that there are worthwhile movies in black and white.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Shedman on 24 September 2018, 10:08:27 AM
I found some toy train sets in Asda a couple of years ago. They were packaged under the brand Adventure Wheels. There was certainly a "wild west" train set. I use this one for the Russo-Japanese War. Pictured here with Saxons

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb456/alanmillicheap/Misc/PART_1537777590866_zpsu0r6sroo.jpeg)

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb456/alanmillicheap/Misc/PART_1537779556521_zpslt1laojz.jpeg)

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb456/alanmillicheap/Misc/20160214_182910_zps09p7jaec.jpeg)

Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 September 2018, 10:15:15 AM
Damn, now I want one!
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Leman on 24 September 2018, 10:18:09 AM
Funnily enough I use Saxons as alternative RJW Japanese in the khaki uniform.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Shedman on 24 September 2018, 10:32:45 AM
The trains are marketed under various brands but the source company is Soma. Google "Soma trains" to see all of their variants
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: fsn on 24 September 2018, 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: Shedman on 24 September 2018, 10:08:27 AM
I found some toy train sets in Asda a couple of years ago. They were packaged under the brand Adventure Wheels. There was certainly a "wild west" train set. I use this one for the Russo-Japanese War. Pictured here with Saxons
I've got a few of those. They were good value for money.
Title: Re: ACW wish list
Post by: Sunray on 24 September 2018, 06:42:11 PM
Quote from: fsn on 24 September 2018, 12:37:02 PM
I've got a few of those. They were good value for money.

The trick is to get them in the supermarket - not on ebay!  :)

But yes, cheap and cheerful and close enough to 10mm scale.