This week we played a 'find the prize' scenario. An iron wall of dwarves took to the field agains a rag-tag goblin horde. Both were in search of the treasure hidden somewhere on the battlefield.
http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/warband-find-prize-hill-dwarves-vs.html (http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/warband-find-prize-hill-dwarves-vs.html)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i_GKuQaxRm8/VShalpmUbCI/AAAAAAAACZM/UuIntgxLbZE/s1600/IMG_1522.JPG)
Good report.
Did anyone ever find it? ;)
Awesome report. Im just disappointed the Dwarves lost. I guess the lack of missiles/artillery hurt them. Im putting this in my Book of Grudges! >:(
Terrific stuff, Lud.
Don't know about the prize.....But no one seems to have found the hidden message yet. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil ;)
What hidden message.
You are Phil Lewis and I claim my £5?
Wrong ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Not sure if it will have come out clearly enough, anyway. ;)
Cheers - Mr Silly
Spill!
You're not to tell.....Yet ! ;)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 11 April 2015, 07:36:22 AM
Not sure if it will have come out clearly enough, anyway. ;)
It's there... ;)
=O =O =O =O =O :-bd :-$ O:-) <:-P 8-}
Says it all really...
Quote from: Leon on 11 April 2015, 07:56:59 AM
It's there... ;)
Excellent !! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
Nice report
And I have no idea what might or might not be there.
Great battle report, did anyone find the objective/prize?...totally flummoxed by all the other comments
Quote from: Bodvoc on 11 April 2015, 08:51:30 AM
Great battle report, did anyone find the objective/prize?...totally flummoxed by all the other comments
Me too :-\
Nice batrep.
Quote from: Bodvoc on 11 April 2015, 08:51:30 AM
.totally flummoxed by all the other comments
Genuine apologies for causing a thread derailment so early..!! (Especially to Lud, as it's such a superb battle report...and that's what this thread is all about !))
I shouldn't have come in with that, so early in the topic. (Muppet !!)
Any other comments on the 'other subject'.....New Topic required. ;) :-[
Cheers - Phil.
Ouch... The dwarves aren't doing very well so far! If you tactic is "sit there and let them come on in the same old way" you'd better bring some good shooting :D
Maybe Bloodax can even the score when his stunties arrive ;)
Can't see the hidden message. Do I have to close one eye and tilt the phone up whilst focusing on the end of my nose?
Yeah, on paper the hill dwarves look impressive.
I think the mistakes have all been in tactics so far. None of my group has figured out how to use the little hairy fellows yet (including me :D ). It doesn't help that i've not yet painted the fun stuff like cannons and gyrocopters.
Generally i think with Warband, a mixed army composition that give you mobility, shooting, melee, magic, and decent command is your start point - you then need to get your tactics right.
Perhaps the lack of hills demoralised the hill dwarves!
Watching the battle was really interesting.
Early on, the dwarf player played a blinder with the tactics around how to ensure the 'prize' was in his area and easy to defend.
But i think the goblin mobility, archery, magic, and ability to outflank and chew up the static dwarf line recovered the disadvantaged position.
The dwarves reliance on being a 'wall of iron' was their only tactic given the army build. The player was trying something out (a solid line of warriors). It didn't seem to work! ;D
Good fun though, and the general comments from the players boiled down to, 'there are so many layers of tactical considerations, and decisions to make' in Warband, and that's what makes it fun. :)
Quote from: Luddite on 11 April 2015, 12:27:22 PM
Yeah, on paper the hill dwarves look impressive.
I think the mistakes have all been in tactics so far. None of my group has figured out how to use the little hairy fellows yet (including me :D ). It doesn't help that i've not yet painted the fun stuff like cannons and gyrocopters.
Generally i think with Warband, a mixed army composition that give you mobility, shooting, melee, magic, and decent command is your start point - you then need to get your tactics right.
Perhaps the lack of hills demoralised the hill dwarves!
Watching the battle was really interesting.
Early on, the dwarf player played a blinder with the tactics around how to ensure the 'prize' was in his area and easy to defend.
But i think the goblin mobility, archery, magic, and ability to outflank and chew up the static dwarf line recovered the disadvantaged position.
The dwarves reliance on being a 'wall of iron' was their only tactic given the army build. The player was trying something out (a solid line of warriors). It didn't seem to work! ;D
Good fun though, and the general comments from the players boiled down to, 'there are so many layers of tactical considerations, and decisions to make' in Warband, and that's what makes it fun. :)
A big thank you to you for posting some great battle reports. Looking forward to more! THANKS!
I'm really looking forwards to seeing your hill dwarves in action Bloodaxe. :D
Clearly i've not figured out how to use the army yet so hopefully you'll lead the way as the guru on dwarves tactics. ;) m/
What do you think we've been doing wrong with the dwarves?
This game too static - you can't cover your flanks and resist the softening up, them the Gobboes crash into you at their choice of best odds - flank, out numbered, shot up. It's still a grid for them but they can throw the big hitters in where it counts whilst the rest of the dwarves get screened off and chewed up a bit. Then rinse, repeat until they break you...
Previous games were similar but the little movement the dwarves got jut made it worse - they got strung out first, the. Screened and shot up then concentrated on and ground down in detail.
I would guess... A mix of shooters and artillery backed with a solid core of warriors would be better for this - an something In reserve that's mobile enough to leap out and cover whichever flank te Gobboes come round? That way you can attrit the Gobboes on the way in and then take their charge on the warriors... Or more generally advance to somewhere useful whilst shootin up the enemy so your warriors can go in at favourable odds, screened or supported by the copters/ponie knights/rangers?
Otherwise with that "all warriors" you're setting yourself up as Harold G at Hastings...
I'm agreeing with Toxicpixie. Protect your flanks. Possibly put stronger units there to protect your line. A mix of shooting & infantry. Shoot units that are going to possibly used as flankers. Make them a priority target. Advance in line, don't let units get isolated & unsupported.
Take this with a grain of salt, as I have not played a single game, I've only read 3 battles. I think the Dwarves won one of them though!
Quote from: toxicpixie on 11 April 2015, 12:50:31 PM
Otherwise with that "all warriors" you're setting yourself up as Harold G at Hastings...
:D
Great analogy
toxicpixie!
I also agree with your assessments. You need a flexible multi-capability force to achieve success in Warband. 'One trick ponies' seem to suffer.
So maybe this is why Dear Dwarfs need Doggies! ;)
I would like to see how an all shooting force would perform.
Quote from: Bloodaxe on 11 April 2015, 01:09:04 PM
I think the Dwarves won one of them though!
Indeed :D
If you are going wall of steel then Shieldwall is a must.
Quote from: stenicplus on 11 April 2015, 04:21:46 PM
Indeed :D
If you are going wall of steel then Shieldwall is a must.
http://www.slimreidy1.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/waaargh-time-as-green-skins-go-to-war.html
Did you win with Dwarves?
The battle i was thinking of, the Dwarves lost that one too. Three reports Ive seen, three Dwarf losses.
Anyone win with dwarves yet?
Quote from: Bloodaxe on 11 April 2015, 04:56:41 PM
Anyone win with dwarves yet?
Just building up those grudges eh? ;D
Quote from: Luddite on 11 April 2015, 06:12:32 PM
Just building up those grudges eh? ;D
Im learning. Dont get flanked.
Very nice figures, and exqusite narrated battle, a pleasure to read.
Specially like the look of the gnome (now I am thinking in buying a gnome army pack mmmmh)
I wonder why dwarves did not attack to goblins archers instead stay sitting in the line waiting to be break
Orks n goblins seems to be though in warband, great.
thanks for sharing the game
Dwarves win here.
http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/warband-orcs-vs-dwarves.html
Yep, that was an early playtest game. ;)
Lovely looking little chaps and a good read.
Never played a game but history mentions the use of echelon to counter flanking problems (see Alex the Great and Fred the Big for more details). Or alternatively, anchor one flank on a static object like a unfordable river or the edge of a cliff.
Quote from: Bloodaxe on 11 April 2015, 04:56:41 PM
http://www.slimreidy1.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/waaargh-time-as-green-skins-go-to-war.html
Did you win with Dwarves?
The battle i was thinking of, the Dwarves lost that one too. Three reports Ive seen, three Dwarf losses.
Anyone win with dwarves yet?
Yes, me vs KiwiDave
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11850.0.html
A dwarf win! Finally.....
Thanks.
I've no doubt you'll be racking up the stuntie wins Bloodaxe. :D
Quote from: stenicplus on 12 April 2015, 10:28:20 PM
Yes, me vs KiwiDave
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11850.0.html
Only because I suck at any game involving dice, or tactics.... ;D
Quote from: Chieftain on 12 April 2015, 10:45:40 PM
I've no doubt you'll be racking up the stuntie wins Bloodaxe. :D
I have to find an opponent first. ;)
where are you located bloodaxe?
It is barely possible you were in spain, isn't it?
Quote from: jchaos79 on 13 April 2015, 08:51:33 PM
where are you located bloodaxe?
It is barely possible you were in spain, isn't it?
Sure! If you can send me plane ticket. :) Im in the USA. I had to pull teeth (USA for try really hard) to order my Warband stuff. I had to order direct. Sadly, no one is carrying it here. (yet) :(
;) searching for wargamers is tough task
Looks to me that Pendraken needs a US subsidiary!
Quote from: Luddite on 14 April 2015, 09:08:35 AM
Looks to me that Pendraken needs a US subsidiary!
Im just going to concentrate on painting my Dwarfs well. Then I'll try to find some players. Once my Dwarves are done- I may get an evil army to paint up. I wish Warbands was easier to get in the USA, as I think it could really take off. There are many Warhammer, GW game players here looking for a fun, easy, cheaper alternative.
Quote from: Bloodaxe on 14 April 2015, 02:24:17 PM
I wish Warbands was easier to get in the USA, as I think it could really take off. There are many Warhammer, GW game players here looking for a fun, easy, cheaper alternative.
It'll get easier going forward, as it'll be easier to find new stockists when we've got more armies on offer. For now, Great Hall Games have got the rules and army packs going out in today's post, and Warstore have got the new range info as well, so we'll hopefully get an order from them at some point.
Quote from: Leon on 14 April 2015, 02:55:00 PM
It'll get easier going forward, as it'll be easier to find new stockists when we've got more armies on offer. For now, Great Hall Games have got the rules and army packs going out in today's post, and Warstore have got the new range info as well, so we'll hopefully get an order from them at some point.
Thats good news. Great hall Games needs to fix their website if they want online orders. I guess it will take a bit for War Store to add the new warbands stuff to their site. Good news though.