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Title: An Idea for 2016
Post by: capthugeca on 04 March 2015, 10:46:15 AM
Hey, Leon!

How about next year we have a category for converted Pendraken figures?
But please make sure you invite Atavus to be amongst the judges!  :D
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: getagrip on 04 March 2015, 11:29:32 AM
Quote from: capthugeca on 04 March 2015, 10:46:15 AM
Hey, Leon!

How about next year we have a category for converted Pendraken figures?
But please make sure you invite Atavus to be amongst the judges!  :D

Ooh, second that, provided no-one who's any good is allowed to enter :D

Seriously, that's a really great idea :-bd
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Hertsblue on 04 March 2015, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: capthugeca on 04 March 2015, 10:46:15 AM
Hey, Leon!

How about next year we have a category for converted Pendraken figures?
But please make sure you invite Atavus to be amongst the judges!  :D

And Javier Gomez.  ;)
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Matt J on 04 March 2015, 12:39:54 PM
I think a hell of a lot of the entries in the comp are already conversions in one form or another (part of what makes it such a strong competition)
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: jchaos79 on 04 March 2015, 01:32:32 PM
Cuold be nice to separete the conversions (who always have a bonus of originality) from regular paint.

Then conversions fight each other.
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Leon on 04 March 2015, 03:16:17 PM
It's certainly a good idea, although all of the categories allow conversions already.  We'd have to weigh up whether we could support another category with prizes as well, both on our own side and from other companies, as we've already pencilled in a 'Warband' category for the new rules/figures.
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: capthugeca on 04 March 2015, 05:13:22 PM
Quote from: Leon on 04 March 2015, 03:16:17 PM
It's certainly a good idea, although all of the categories allow conversions already.  We'd have to weigh up whether we could support another category with prizes as well, both on our own side and from other companies, as we've already pencilled in a 'Warband' category for the new rules/figures.

When you look at the size of the prize (£20 plus goodies to the value of a further £20-30) you are being incredibly generous for quite a small investment by us entrants.
And I note that in the "Why I enjoy the competition" post, little has been made of the prizes.
I wonder if you could halve the value of the prizes and still have as many entrants.
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Leon on 04 March 2015, 05:22:29 PM
It's £20 Pendraken to the winner, £10 Pendraken to the runner-up, so there's £210 from us each year.  Plus £20-30 from the third-party company, so another £140-£210 from them as well.  The prizes from us are easy enough, as long as it brings more interest in, but getting more prizes from other people is the struggle each year, as I've already tapped up most of the 10mm oriented companies!

Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Luddite on 04 March 2015, 05:28:04 PM
Quote from: Leon on 04 March 2015, 03:16:17 PM
we've already pencilled in a 'Warband' category for the new rules/figures.

Now THAT is something i can't wait to see!   :-bd
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Fenton on 04 March 2015, 05:28:54 PM
There's prizes?
I thought winner just got a hearty handshake, maybe a pat on the back unless some of the chaps think that might be too much touching,  three loud Huzzahs and maybe a complimentary sherry in the forum bar
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 March 2015, 05:30:23 PM
Maybe we could chip in a quid each?
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Luddite on 04 March 2015, 05:34:50 PM
Having the medal(s) on your profile is something to be proud of.  Best part of the prize i think.   :)
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Roy on 04 March 2015, 05:57:06 PM
Quote from: Luddite on 04 March 2015, 05:34:50 PM
Having the medal(s) on your profile is something to be proud of.  Best part of the prize i think.   :)

Have to admit that they are the motivation for me.
If I didn't qualify for them one year, it would make me doubly motivated to do better next.
The store credit with Pendraken is an added incentive mind  ;)
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Kassad on 04 March 2015, 06:10:34 PM
Quote from: Luddite on 04 March 2015, 05:34:50 PM
Having the medal(s) on your profile is something to be proud of.  Best part of the prize i think.   :)
I' m totally agree.
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: getagrip on 04 March 2015, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 04 March 2015, 05:30:23 PM
Maybe we could chip in a quid each?

I'm in for that ;)
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Westmarcher on 04 March 2015, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: Luddite on 04 March 2015, 05:34:50 PM
Having the medal(s) on your profile is something to be proud of.  Best part of the prize i think.   :)

'Give me enough medals and I'll win you any war'

'You call these baubles, well, it is with baubles that men are led'


                                                                        - Napoleon Bonaparte
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: jchaos79 on 04 March 2015, 10:31:54 PM
Quote from: Leon on 04 March 2015, 03:16:17 PM
It's certainly a good idea, although all of the categories allow conversions already.  We'd have to weigh up whether we could support another category with prizes as well, both on our own side and from other companies, as we've already pencilled in a 'Warband' category for the new rules/figures.

Let's make the following prize: Just print the totty forum in book format and send it to the winner of conversions categopry. Cheap and interesting.
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 March 2015, 12:11:16 AM
As long as it's only the illustrated posts! :)
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Hertsblue on 05 March 2015, 08:42:24 AM
Quote from: jchaos79 on 04 March 2015, 10:31:54 PM
Let's make the following prize: Just print the totty forum in book format and send it to the winner of conversions categopry. Cheap and interesting.

But don't show it to your wife!  ;)
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: hetairoi on 05 March 2015, 09:42:55 AM
Prizes? I thought we did it for honor and glory!    :-bd

I think a conversion category is a nice idea, but it will be a pity that all the entries with some kind of conversion must be relegated to thin category. I´m saying this because I think I have not presented to the competition a single base without some kind of modification... I like to give my "personal touch" to the minis  :D

However, if we give the same flexibility as the other categories (a barbarian warlord mounted on bison could be entered in "Single base", "Mounted" or "Fantasy" categories) I really think it will be a VERY interesting category  :-\

Cheers!
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: getagrip on 05 March 2015, 09:48:10 AM
Quote from: hetairoi on 05 March 2015, 09:42:55 AM
Prizes? I thought we did it for honor and glory!    :-bd

I think a conversion category is a nice idea, but it will be a pity that all the entries with some kind of conversion must be relegated to thin category. I´m saying this because I think I have not presented to the competition a single base without some kind of modification... I like to give my "personal touch" to the minis  :D

However, if we give the same flexibility as the other categories (a barbarian warlord mounted on bison could be entered in "Single base", "Mounted" or "Fantasy" categories) I really think it will be a VERY interesting category  :-\

Cheers!

I don't think you'd "have" to enter conversions in a conversion category but rather if the conversion was the major element: "hey look at my funky new TECHNique; see what I can do with PHILer" sort of thing; it could go in a separate category.  :)
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Fenton on 05 March 2015, 09:48:46 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 05 March 2015, 08:42:24 AM
But don't show it to your wife!  ;)

You could maybe just pretend its the latest Littlewoods catalogue?
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: getagrip on 05 March 2015, 09:49:18 AM
Quote from: Fenton on 05 March 2015, 09:48:46 AM
You could maybe just pretend its the latest Littlewoods catalogue?

Have experience of this then? :D
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Fenton on 05 March 2015, 09:52:13 AM
I  do indeed but I still haven't managed to get 8 score draws :'(
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: hetairoi on 05 March 2015, 10:26:24 AM
Quote
I don't think you'd "have" to enter conversions in a conversion category but rather if the conversion was the major element: "hey look at my funky new TECHNique; see what I can do with PHILer" sort of thing; it could go in a separate category.  Smiley

:)

Obviously, a heavy conversion should be "oriented" to this category.
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: getagrip on 05 March 2015, 11:27:07 AM
Quote from: Fenton on 05 March 2015, 09:52:13 AM
I  do indeed but I still haven't managed to get 8 score draws :'(

;D

Quote from: hetairoi on 05 March 2015, 10:26:24 AM
:)

Obviously, a heavy conversion should be "oriented" to this category.

Maybe, think it should largely be left to the individual.
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Roy on 05 March 2015, 01:13:55 PM
I think the conversion idea, if judging on the discussion so far on this topic, may prove a minefield of misunderstanding and uncertainty as to where to post entries.

Also, the painting competition at present is judged upon the painting and presentation of the entry, not if it is converted or unique. At least that is my understanding. So entries involving conversions or additional sculpting are just slotted into the existing categories and thus help to keep the judge's job simple.

It's a good suggestion, don't get me wrong.  :) 
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: hetairoi on 05 March 2015, 01:20:13 PM
QuoteIt's a good suggestion, don't get me wrong.  Smiley 

Keep it simple is always a a good sugestion. The judges job is already hard enough...  ;)
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: getagrip on 05 March 2015, 01:34:42 PM
Quote from: hetairoi on 05 March 2015, 01:20:13 PM
Keep it simple is always a a good sugestion. The judges job is already hard enough...  ;)

Yeah but it does give Phil a genuine reason for going blind!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Leman on 05 March 2015, 01:48:21 PM
Unlikely to do that as a conversion can involve using parts from another manufacturers' figures.
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Simon Cressey on 05 March 2015, 10:56:54 PM
Yer make it one entry per category per person so there is no spamming and will make it fairer
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: Jc on 07 March 2015, 11:21:33 AM
 A fair comment from my lad,but after all it is a painting comp, not a sculpting comp.I for one count my self as a fair sculpter,and a crap painter so i will win nothing,but it will not stop me entering.So for me (and probably my lad),a conversion or sculpting slot would be a godsend,but bear in mind not every body can sculpt so you would end up with the same ones dominating and pushing out the majority who just paint.
Though i do think the judges sometimes don't take into full consideration the skill and work that goes into some convertions and dioramas.Anyhow nuf said,i will probably have the old boy network up in arms by now.And my chances off getting anywhere in future comps,well and truly scuppered.
Title: Re: An Idea for 2016
Post by: getagrip on 07 March 2015, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: Simon Cressey on 05 March 2015, 10:56:54 PM
Yer make it one entry per category per person so there is no spamming and will make it fairer

I like this idea ;)