Rules!
We are extremely happy to announce that the first set of official Pendraken rules, Warband, are now available as a hardcopy on our website, priced at £16.00: http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Rules-sc320/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Rules-sc320/) and for those who would prefer to buy a pdf copy, these can be bought through the Wargame Vault website here, priced at £10.00: http://www.wargamevault.com/product/144517/Warband-Fantasy-Rules (http://www.wargamevault.com/product/144517/Warband-Fantasy-Rules)
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Written by Steve Hardy, Warband provides all the rules you need to bring great battles between fantasy armies to your tabletop.
Using miniature figures and terrain, you can fight battles from the glorious sword and sorcery epics you've read about.
You can play games against your friends or competitive battles against worthy opponents. Whilst the rules have been written with the 10mm Pendraken Miniatures ranges in mind, there's no reason why you can't use other scales as well!
For more info on the rules, check our original announcement here: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11260.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11260.0.html)
There is also a FAQ thread up and running here: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11265.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11265.0.html)
Figures!
As well as the rules, we have also now released our first two revamped Fantasy ranges, with the Goblins and the Hill Dwarves now available!
These new ranges are huge improvements on the old ones, adding not only new sculpts but also more variety to every pack. So much variety in fact, that a pack of foot now contains 25 individual figures, each one different to the last. From different weapons and headgear, down to added cloaks, beards and pouches, we've gone for maximum variation within every single pack!
The new ranges include:
Goblins - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Goblins-sc324/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Goblins-sc324/)
FAN-GOB1 - 25 x Warriors
FAN-GOB2 - 25 x Archers
FAN-GOB3 - 12 x Wolf-Riders
FAN-GOB4 - 5-man Command Group
FAN-GOB5 - 4 x Shamans with runestone
FAN-GOB6 - 4 x Bolt-shooters with crews
FAN-GOB7 - 3 x Giant crossobows with crews
(packs are £4.50 each, command/shamans are £1.50)
Army Pack: Contains 3 packs of Warriors, and 1 pack each of Archers, Wolf-Riders, Command, Shamans and Bolt-shooters, plus 8 x MDF bases. Priced at £27.00
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Hill Dwarves - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Hill-Dwarves-sc323/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Hill-Dwarves-sc323/)
FAN-HDW1 - 25 x Warriors
FAN-HDW2 - 25 x Shooters
FAN-HDW3 - 12 x Noble Riders
FAN-HDW4 - 5-man Command Group
FAN-HDW5 - 4 x Wizards with runestone
FAN-HDW6 - 25 x Berserkers
FAN-HDW7 - 4 x Cannons/Bombards with crews
FAN-HDW8 - 3 x Gyrocopters
(packs are £4.50 each, command/shamans are £1.50)
Army Pack: Contains 3 packs of Warriors, and 1 pack each of Shooters, Noble Riders, Command, Wizards and Cannons, plus 8 x MDF bases. Priced at £27.00
We've put some bare metal pics up onto the site for now, but those will be getting replaced with painted pics very soon.
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Bases, Movement Trays and Gaming Aids!
As well as the rules and the figures, we've got a range of extra bits and bobs to help your games along!
The recommended basing size is 100x50mm bases, which are available in packs of 10 for £2. The ruleset allows you to use other base sizes of course, but we've also got a range of movement trays available for those wanting to use their existing armies: http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Bases-Movement-Trays-sc321/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Bases-Movement-Trays-sc321/), priced at only 50p per movement tray. (If you need a different tray size, just drop us a line and we can cut it as a custom job for you, no problem!)
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As well as those, we've also created some handy tokens for tracking the hits on your units. Available in both circles and semi-circles (for placing neatly up against the back of your base), these come in packs of 25 tokens, which should be enough to cover both sides in a game of Warband. 20mm circles are £2.50 per pack, the 30mm semi-circles are £3.00 per pack: http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Gaming-Aids-Tokens-sc322/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Gaming-Aids-Tokens-sc322/)
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And finally, all of the units in Warband rely on their Morale to stay in play. If it loses all of it's morale, then that unit will rout and is potentially out of the game unless you can save it! One handy way of recording the morale of each unit is by using our trusty dice frames to keep track of it: http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Gaming-Aids-Tokens-sc322/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-c36/Gaming-Aids-Tokens-sc322/) At only £1 for 10 pairs of dice/frames, these are a great help and you can also see these frames in use in the images within the rulebook.
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I think that's everything then! Many thanks for reading, there'll be lots more new and revamped Warband ranges to come over the next few months, so keep an eye out for those!
8) Want want want want want......
And ordered...now it's just the wait for the postman to knock on the door :-w
I propose a Starter set with 2 small armies plus the bases, dice and of course the rules. :D
Looking good....
Quote from: sebigboss79 on 19 February 2015, 12:22:58 AM
I propose a Starter set with 2 small armies plus the bases, dice and of course the rules. :D
Yours for £71 ;)
Quote from: Leon on 18 February 2015, 11:43:32 PM
Using miniature figures and terrain, you can fight battles from the glorious sword and sorcery epics you've read about.
You can play games against your friends or competitive battles against worthy opponents.
Really :o
Quote from: Leon on 18 February 2015, 11:43:32 PMWhilst the rules have been written with the 10mm Pendraken Miniatures ranges in mind, there's no reason why you can't use other scales as well![/i]
Blasphemer >:(
Oh wait :-/
;D ;D ;D
Those hit markers are great! Especially the semi-circle ones.
I'll have to get me some.
Quote from: Luddite on 19 February 2015, 11:02:29 AM
Those hit markers are great! Especially the semi-circle ones.
I'll have to get me some.
They are, wonder how difficult it would be for Leon to customise the writing for other games?
Hit markers look like a must - and not just for Warband.
Quote from: Leman on 19 February 2015, 11:13:30 AM
Hit markers look like a must - and not just for Warband.
Yeah, I'm hoping they can bang out some of the semi circular ones for Warmaster numbered 1-12
Quote from: Leman on 19 February 2015, 11:13:30 AM
Hit markers look like a must - and not just for Warband.
Yep ditto
something along the lines of fired/disordered etc would be fab too :)
My copy of Warband arrived this morning, well happy with it!
Thanks for the comments, much appreciated! On the token queries, we can put anything on them really, so if people want something else written or a different set of numbers, the best thing to do is pop us an email.
The etching is surprisingly heavy on the laser though, I was surprised at how long it took in the machine, almost half-an-hour for two packs of tokens.
Quote from: Leon on 19 February 2015, 03:05:10 PM
Thanks for the comments, much appreciated! On the token queries, we can put anything on them really, so if people want something else written or a different set of numbers, the best thing to do is pop us an email.
The etching is surprisingly heavy on the laser though, I was surprised at how long it took in the machine, almost half-an-hour for two packs of tokens.
Is that's because it's in "bold?"
Quote from: getagrip on 19 February 2015, 03:10:29 PM
Is that's because it's in "bold?"
Kind of, it's not bold but the letters are filled in which requires more time and a different method by the machine. With engraved outlines of lettering, it will simply draw the lines as a person would with a pen, no bother. When the letters are required to be all filled in, the laser machine does side to side sweeps across the MDF instead, with the laser flickering on and off as it makes each pass, slowly building up the letters from the base up. This is the time consuming bit, but the solid letters look so much better on the finished product.
8)
Quote from: Leon on 19 February 2015, 03:13:12 PM
Kind of, it's not bold but the letters are filled in which requires more time and a different method by the machine. With engraved outlines of lettering, it will simply draw the lines as a person would with a pen, no bother. When the letters are required to be all filled in, the laser machine does side to side sweeps across the MDF instead, with the laser flickering on and off as it makes each pass, slowly building up the letters from the base up. This is the time consuming bit, but the solid letters look so much better on the finished product.
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Would a blank token and a free felt tip pen be easier?
Like these A LOT!
http://www.pendraken.co.uk/WAR-MVT5-p7157/
Quote from: Fenton on 19 February 2015, 03:14:04 PM
Would a blank token and a free felt tip pen be easier?
Maybe! :D
Quote from: Fenton on 19 February 2015, 03:20:08 PM
Like these A LOT!
http://www.pendraken.co.uk/WAR-MVT5-p7157/
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I've just finished reading the rules cover to cover. Very impressed, especially with the variety and versatility of the army lists, as well as the acknowledgment of allies and mercs. Can't wait to give this a try. I may have missed something, but I wish there were rules specifically geared towards sieges and the destruction of defences and buildings by artillery/powerful monsters.
The Warband rules have jumped straight to No.4 on the Wargame Vault 'Hottest Titles' lists!
http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php (http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php)
:-bd
Quote from: Hamish on 19 February 2015, 07:37:26 PM
I've just finished reading the rules cover to cover. Very impressed, especially with the variety and versatility of the army lists, as well as the acknowledgment of allies and mercs. Can't wait to give this a try. I may have missed something, but I wish there were rules specifically geared towards sieges and the destruction of defences and buildings by artillery/powerful monsters.
Thanks for the comment, glad you like them! I'll let Chieftain reply re the siege options.
Quote from: Hamish on 19 February 2015, 07:37:26 PM
I may have missed something, but I wish there were rules specifically geared towards sieges and the destruction of defences and buildings by artillery/powerful monsters.
There is quite a bit of additional material that didn't make it into the final cut of the rules. There was a lot of discussion around format, page numbers, what to put in and leave out to give a decent set of core rules.
It's safe to say that siege warfare was bumped.
Who, knows, we may see something along those lines in the future. :-\
Fortified terrain nearly made it in, with the ability to garrison a small castle, but the idea of having a full city, with walls etc. was tried, but not fully developed. Mostly because...well...who has a full 10mm city with walls to put on their table?! ;D
Quote from: Chieftain on 19 February 2015, 10:59:41 PM
Mostly because...well...who has a full 10mm city with walls to put on their table?! ;D
Yes. Who indeed *sweats nervously*. But seriously, I like the streamlined nature of these rules. There's the fluffly stuff like magic and monsters but when it boils down to it, it seems like tactical thinking will be more important in Warband than anything flashy like that. I like the formatting of the book, though in the army lists section, under the options area I would have bolded the special rules that are in the midsentence like you have done with unit names in the unit descriptions. For example under options in the Goblins & Orcs section the top line reads 'The chieftain unit may have fierce for +5pts or shieldwall for +5tpts' Id have bolded
fierce and
shieldwall. Also in the undead section it starts out 'The sour lands' which should be capitalized as 'The Sour Lands' if it's a proper noun. Finally on the back cover there seems to be a missing 's'; 'Warband provide all the rules you need to...' surely it should read 'Warband provides all the rules...' All this is really just me being a massive pedant though, I'm just trying to help, seriously no offence meant. :P
None taken!
Hopefully you'll find that tactical skill will win you your games. :)
Quote from: Chieftain on 19 February 2015, 10:59:41 PM
Mostly because...well...who has a full 10mm city with walls to put on their table?! ;D
Well, I've managed it in 6mm.
Leon ... I
MAY need some bigger bases :D :D :D
I've taken the plunge and bought a PDF of the rules.
I will order a starter army later today - probably Goblins/Orcs because they are new and I am drawn to new shiny toys !
I suspect that a friend of mine may go for Barbarians but that might depend on where the miniatures are in Pendraken's "revamp" queue.
The biggest challenge I think will be deciding what to do to make the big unit bases look special, with terrain and maybe some battlefield clutter.
Quote from: AndyT on 20 February 2015, 04:09:37 PM
I suspect that a friend of mine may go for Barbarians but that might depend on where the miniatures are in Pendraken's "revamp" queue.
The biggest challenge I think will be deciding what to do to make the big unit bases look special, with terrain and maybe some battlefield clutter.
Your friend might be happy quite soon then... ;)
The big bases look excellent, we're just finishing up the first of our painted sets for the website photos and the 25-foot packs fit really nicely onto the bases.
8)
Good news on the Barbarians but I don't think a 25-foot pack will fit in my letterbox ;) :D
Quote from: Leon on 20 February 2015, 04:18:10 PM
Your friend might be happy quite soon then... ;)
The big bases look excellent, we're just finishing up the first of our painted sets for the website photos and the 25-foot packs fit really nicely onto the bases.
8)
They certainly do.
It's almost as if there was an experiment-based design decision behind choosing 100x50mm. ;)
And barbarians? Mammoths and bison-riders, and hawk-men? What's not to love? :x
Quote from: Chieftain on 20 February 2015, 04:40:02 PM
It's almost as if there was an experiment-based design decision behind choosing 100x50mm. ;)
:D
Quote from: AndyT on 20 February 2015, 04:35:07 PM
Good news on the Barbarians but I don't think a 25-foot pack will fit in my letterbox ;) :D
;D
Goblin/Orc order placed :)
Some of the prices for dice frames, paints etc are slightly different when comparing the Pendraken and Minibits websites. Only pennies involved but do they operate as separate companies or should the prices be the same?
Order received, we'll get those sorted and posted out asap!
Quote from: AndyT on 20 February 2015, 04:56:51 PM
Some of the prices for dice frames, paints etc are slightly different when comparing the Pendraken and Minibits websites. Only pennies involved but do they operate as separate companies or should the prices be the same?
They're two different companies, so with Pendraken being VAT registered we have to charge a little more on that site to cover the taxman... :(
And we're upto No.2 on the Wargame Vault 'Hottest Titles' lists now! http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php (http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php)
Quote from: Leon on 20 February 2015, 06:36:58 PM
And we're upto No.2 on the Wargame Vault 'Hottest Titles' lists now! http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php (http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php)
=D> =D> =D>
Purchased and downloaded my copy last night. Just had a quick once over last night, but I like what I saw. :-bd
Based on what I've read, I do hope there might be the option for an ancients version/supplement to it in the future. :D
Quote from: Leon on 20 February 2015, 06:36:58 PM
And we're upto No.2 on the Wargame Vault 'Hottest Titles' lists now! http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php (http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php)
:D
Quote from: Leon on 20 February 2015, 06:36:58 PM
And we're upto No.2 on the Wargame Vault 'Hottest Titles' lists now! http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php (http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php)
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Got my copy a couple of days ago, just had a quick look through. Looks good! Are there any plans to release more army lists as I have a load of Normans/Saxons in 10mm that I was hoping to use but they don't seem to fit in to any of the army lists. Although they could fit in with the Dragon Men.
Look forward to trying the rules out soon.
Cheers
Richard P :)
Quote from: cardophillipo on 21 February 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Got my copy a couple of days ago, just had a quick look through. Looks good! Are there any plans to release more army lists as I have a load of Normans/Saxons in 10mm that I was hoping to use but they don't seem to fit in to any of the army lists. Although they could fit in with the Dragon Men.
Look forward to trying the rules out soon.
Cheers
Richard P :)
Hi
cardophillipo,
At this stage, the answer is, 'we'll see'.
However, I'd suggest 'thinking outside the box', on what each army looks like. Warband was written to be deliberately non-prescriptive about what your army looks like, so you can use your imagination! And an interesting colour scheme can make historical figures look 'fantasy'!
I would therefore say you could use your Normans/Saxons as:
Barbarian men, Dark elves, Dragon men, Eldritch vampires (thralls) High elves, Undead, or Wood elves. Of course you'll need to add to them with some of the more fantasical elements!
Thanks for that, the elves idea sounds interesting. Will there be anymore Dragon figures?
Cheers
Richard P :)
Hi Richard! Migrating from the Commander forum I see :D
Rules are getting more and more tempting. Argh.
WHO LET HIM IN !!!!
Took youse long nogh...Hi Rich
IanS
Quote from: cardophillipo on 21 February 2015, 11:05:46 AM
Will there be anymore Dragon figures?
The Dragon Men will be a brand new range of sculpts and will be making an appearance after we've got the majority of the revamped ranges done first. There will also be some extra Dragon poses coming as well.
8)
to be honest I'm likely to use what I already have, as it is a shedload of late medieval and Renaissance stuff.
Quote from: Leon on 21 February 2015, 02:03:06 PM
The Dragon Men will be a brand new range of sculpts and will be making an appearance after we've got the majority of the revamped ranges done first. There will also be some extra Dragon poses coming as well.
8)
Really looking forwards to seeing these Leon. The first bespoke range! :)
Quote from: Leon on 21 February 2015, 02:03:06 PM
The Dragon Men will be a brand new range of sculpts and will be making an appearance after we've got the majority of the revamped ranges done first. There will also be some extra Dragon poses coming as well.
8)
Oh please tell me there's going to be Dragon man cavalry!
Life imitates art - FSN
Quote from: Luddite on 21 February 2015, 02:23:24 PM
The first bespoke range! :)
Do sir's dragons dress to the left or the right? ;) :-[ :-[ :-[ ;D
Quote from: fsn on 21 February 2015, 02:31:52 PM
Oh please tell me there's going to be Dragon man cavalry!
Life imitates art - FSN
We're not putting Dragons on horses... =) ;D
There will be regular cavalry with regular men on them, and then there'll be regular Dragons with regular men on them. But nothing like this...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j_P96cVi0iM/UTgTL4499iI/AAAAAAAACPQ/2d-RkMQql2g/s1600/making+epic+epicer.jpg)
Quote from: Leon on 21 February 2015, 03:46:19 PM
We're not putting Dragons on horses... =) ;D
There will be regular cavalry with regular men on them, and then there'll be regular Dragons with regular men on them. But nothing like this...
Is that Brian the proposed police horse (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31516786)? No wonder he was too nervous to be allowed to join the force!!
Quote from: Ithoriel on 21 February 2015, 03:50:24 PM
Is that Brian the proposed police horse (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31516786)? No wonder he was too nervous to be allowed to join the force!!
If they'd called him Thor he would've flown through that test... :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
There are options for various mounted units in the Dragon Men army.
Dragon knights are an order of mounted knights dedicated to questing and crusades. The best of their order ride the flying pegasi into battle.
Knights are well armed noble mounted warriors and direct vassals of the baron.
Marcher horse are skirmishers and scouts who fight mounted with spear and bow.
I'll be interested to see these sculpted from scratch.
Quote from: Leon on 21 February 2015, 03:46:19 PM
We're not putting Dragons on horses... =) ;D
There will be regular cavalry with regular men on them, and then there'll be regular Dragons with regular men on them. But nothing like this...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j_P96cVi0iM/UTgTL4499iI/AAAAAAAACPQ/2d-RkMQql2g/s1600/making+epic+epicer.jpg)
I'll throw that one in the bin, then. X_X ;)
Cheers - Phil
I'd quite like some Pegasus riders... Don't suppose they'd be pitched at about Italian Wars gendarme style armour would they...
I'll have it if you don't want it Phil! ;D
Leon - Thanks look forward to seeing those. I think I will start using my Saxon/Normans as some Dragon Men.
TP - Thought i'd better get on with Pendraken being the new owners of CWC.
Ian - Thanks mate love you too :D PS Booked Padley Farm for Crisis Point.
Cheers
Richard P :)
Welcome aboard Rich :)
Cheers nice to be here :)
Opens you up a whole new market for players, Richard ;)
Now there's an idea ;)
Quote from: mad lemmey on 21 February 2015, 08:13:10 PM
I'll have it if you don't want it Phil! ;D
:P ;)
Cheers - Phil
I've only realised today that there are "Squig lookalikes" in the dungeon monsters range. I noticed some in the pics in the rulebook but assumed that they were GW Warmaster ones (I know, heresy!).
Hopefully Leon will be able to add them to my order (e-mail sent :D). They will make a nice addition to the Shaman unit.
Quote from: AndyT on 22 February 2015, 07:19:13 PM
Hopefully Leon will be able to add them to my order (e-mail sent :D). They will make a nice addition to the Shaman unit.
Email replied and we'll get those added for you, no bother.
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Top man, thank you :)
Can't wait for the rules to arrive!
I love the idea of dioramas for units.
I can see my Moorcock shelves taking some abuse over the next few weeks.
Quote from: Plasticoutsider on 25 February 2015, 03:14:43 PM
I love the idea of dioramas for units.
They are so fun to do!
Its really an opportunity to let your imagination go wild and create a proper looking unit, rather than a few stragglers on a tiny base. And it shows off Pendraken's miniatures in their full glory too i think.
:)
Quote from: Chieftain on 25 February 2015, 03:55:20 PM
They are so fun to do!
Its really an opportunity to let your imagination go wild and create a proper looking unit, rather than a few stragglers on a tiny base. And it shows off Pendraken's miniatures in their full glory too i think.
:)
That's next month's wages spoken for then...
Great stuff! The rule book's just arrived!
Now the trick will be to not read it instead of working.
I think I baffle everyone here at work with the constant barrage of esoteric post I receive.
Today: a booklet of rules with green men on the front, and two bags of 15mm ancient Egyptians and Nubians.
The best question so far relates to an order of ECW figures from Pendraken: 'How can such a small envelope be so heavy?'
Well one of our club members was accused of having a large bag of sex toys with him. Mind you people from Frodsham are affected by the fallout from Runcorn.
IanS
'Fallout from Runcorn' sounds like a forgotten LP by The Fall!
so do all 25 figures fit on one base?
Quote from: Plasticoutsider on 26 February 2015, 01:42:10 PM
'Fallout from Runcorn' sounds like a forgotten LP by The Fall!
It would work well as a title for the mighty Fall, one of my all time favourite bands, nice to see them get a mention on a miniatures forum!! m/
Quote from: Maenoferren on 26 February 2015, 05:48:21 PM
so do all 25 figures fit on one base?
Yep, and very nicely indeed as well. The Hill Dwarves are just being finished off now, so I should be able to get some pics of them towards the middle of next week hopefully.
Runcorn features in Hugh Cook's Chronicles Of An Age Of Darkness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Cook_%28science_fiction_author%29#Chronicles_of_an_Age_of_Darkness_series) series, though it's a bit different from present day Runcorn
Quote from: jambo1 on 26 February 2015, 06:29:10 PM
It would work well as a title for the mighty Fall, one of my all time favourite bands, nice to see them get a mention on a miniatures forum!! m/
Mr Smith would be aghast.
I've had a browse and love the system. I might wait to see more of the new figures before plunging in.
The idea of Dragonmen is very appealing...
Quote from: Plasticoutsider on 26 February 2015, 11:37:07 PM
I've had a browse and love the system.
Would you like to let us know why? :)
Quote from: Chieftain on 26 February 2015, 11:49:40 PM
Would you like to let us know why? :)
The rules seem to strike a nice balance between abstraction and aesthetics (yes, I really am that pretentious). The idea of dioramas showing disordered mobs of orcs on bases of uniform size is entirely new to me (apologies if people know of dozens of other rule sets that do this!) and looks just right. I like the look of the magic solution as well.
I'm generally rules-phobic, so Warband looks like it was written for people like me in mind: well laid-out, simple, a good level of abstraction, and an emphasis on modelling.
Can't wait to give it a go!
The only rules I know of that come close to this idea are Polemos, Impetus, Altar of Freedom and Volley and Bayonet
Quote from: Leman on 27 February 2015, 01:24:18 PM
The only rules I know of that come close to this idea are Polemos, Impetus, Altar of Freedom and Volley and Bayonet
Grande Armee as well, and I suppose Kings of War maybe
My parcel including a Goblin army and some extras arrived today. I will enjoy opening them this evening :)
Quote from: AndyT on 27 February 2015, 05:52:41 PM
My parcel including a Goblin army and some extras arrived today. I will enjoy opening them this evening :)
Jealous; too many goblins already though :-\
Maybe :D
Come on, Gareth....You know you want to.
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 27 February 2015, 10:45:03 PM
Come on, Gareth....You know you want to.
Cheers - Phil
Bad, bad man :P
Yeah ;D I want to! I'm really hanging on for the Dark Elves.... ;)
Quote from: getagrip on 27 February 2015, 10:48:16 PM
Bad, bad man :P
Yeah ;D I want to! I'm really hanging on for the Dark Elves.... ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXzs5nuGNpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXzs5nuGNpg)
Had a read through the Warband rules today and i think they're a bit too simple and fast play for me - make HOTT look complicated (EDIT - actually, correction - spells much more detailed than HOTT - which just treated magicians like artillery - and there are options for each unit for extra points that make units and armies vary more than in HOTT) .
I'd think many people who like ultra-simple, fast battles that can be fought in a short time will like them though.
Positives imo - simple, fast, easy to learn and play without grey areas for rules lawyers.
- Clearly written and well laid out rules book with lots of clear diagrams. Easy to read
- some unusual / original armies
- would be easy to make up your own army lists using the special abilities list in the rules
Negatives - too simple? (e.g being attacked by two dragons at once seems to be almost identical to being attacked by one)
- Army lists too rushed/Not enough differentiation between armies (e.g almost every army's archers seem to have Shooting rating of 2D6 - so elf archers are no better than anyone else's)
- Army lists too much restricted to ranges Pendraken sells
- Lacking in background to give atmosphere. No real "fantasy world" and army lists have minimal background.
I'm yet to play my first game of 'Warband' but I suspect that the simple mechanics will suit me well.
There is some variation in the army lists in terms of the options available to units, making the elven archers potentially different to their goblin equivalents, and from the different magic spells on offer to each army.
Cheers,
Andy
Ah right - elf archers are allowed Powerful - you're right Andy - missed that.
Quote from: Dunnadd on 11 March 2015, 10:22:15 PM
- Lacking in background to give atmosphere. No real "fantasy world" and army lists have minimal background.
I'm liking this about the rules more and more. I love that there is no inherently good and evil races (we've all read the twilight books and know that vampires are actually nice) and I think it gives more opportunity to play factions that you normally might not be drawn to.
At the moment I'm thinking my Goblins will be more from frozen wastelands (although how to explain there low % of body fat and lack of clothing I'm no sure yet :-\). My lizard men could be from marsh/swamp areas near active volcanoes making their skin more reddish then green. Barbarians could be from open plains similar to Native American tribes, where Bison & Mammoths roam in huge numbers.
And with a few simple ideas a fantasy world is taking shape...who knows the Pendragon community may develop a living Warband world as time goes by.
Quote from: Upgraydd on 12 March 2015, 09:46:37 PM
I'm liking this about the rules more and more. I love that there is no inherently good and evil races (we've all read the twilight books and know that vampires are actually nice) and I think it gives more opportunity to play factions that you normally might not be drawn to.
:-bd
QuoteAt the moment I'm thinking my Goblins will be more from frozen wastelands (although how to explain there low % of body fat and lack of clothing I'm no sure yet :-\).
If they're ice goblins, they don't need clothing.
(http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics16/img51e9c9dc7a912.jpg)
QuoteMy lizard men could be from marsh/swamp areas near active volcanoes making their skin more reddish then green.
Salamanders? ;)
QuoteBarbarians could be from open plains similar to Native American tribes, where Bison & Mammoths roam in huge numbers.
:-bd
QuoteAnd with a few simple ideas a fantasy world is taking shape...who knows the Pendragon community may develop a living Warband world as time goes by.
Interesting... :-\
Quote from: Chieftain on 12 March 2015, 11:53:04 PM
If they're ice goblins, they don't need clothing.
(http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics16/img51e9c9dc7a912.jpg)
Wow, that just blew my mind
Quotewe've all read the twilight books and know that vampires are actually nice
You...you...you....what?...WHAT?....WHAAAAAAT???. >:( :'( I don't know which part of that statement to be more outraged about. Next we'll be basing fantasy background on Fifty Shades of frigging Gray, with all the warriors dressed as gimps and armed with riding crops.
When i was a lad we had Tolkien, Runequest, Warhammer and Michael Moorcock. Now it's all vampires shagging and Harry frigging Potter. Young people today, etc.
Quote from: Dunnadd on 13 March 2015, 01:48:35 AM
You...you...you....what?...WHAT?....WHAAAAAAT???. >:( :'( I don't know which part of that statement to be more outraged about. Next we'll be basing fantasy background on Fifty Shades of frigging Gray, with all the warriors dressed as gimps and armed with riding crops.
When i was a lad we had Tolkien, Runequest, Warhammer and Michael Moorcock. Now it's all vampires shagging and Harry frigging Potter. Young people today, etc.
I was hoping that statement would be taken tongue in cheek. I want to clear my name now...I have never read any of that nonsense ^#(^
Quote from: FierceKitty on 13 March 2015, 05:06:32 AM
Blue your mind? ;D
:)
Quote from: Upgraydd on 13 March 2015, 12:30:02 AM
Wow, that just blew my mind
If you're planning to do them something like this, i'm really looking forwards to seeing them. :)
QuoteLacking in background to give atmosphere. No real "fantasy world" and army lists have minimal background.
I actually prefer fantasy rules without a set background, that way they are more easily adaptable to my own fantasy ideas. Also all the special rules available to the different armies allow players to create the army they want. Warband seems to give a better game than HOTT (although I haven't played that in years) and also has more troop types and spells etc...
If it's any like the fantasy campaign I ran with a school last year, they soon came up with their own ideas! :)
Quote from: Upgraydd on 13 March 2015, 05:26:19 AM
I was hoping that statement would be taken tongue in cheek. I want to clear my name now...I have never read any of that nonsense ^#(^
:)
Ok - sorry for the rant (which was only like 65% serious) then ;)
Quote from: mad lemmey on 13 March 2015, 03:28:41 PM
If it's any like the fantasy campaign I ran with a school last year, they soon came up with their own ideas! :)
Nowt so creative as a kid ;)
Quote from: Chieftain on 13 March 2015, 08:39:09 AM
If you're planning to do them something like this, i'm really looking forwards to seeing them. :)
I had a first attempt at the "Ice Goblin" theme using primarily cold colours and it didn't really work at 10mm, the figures just didn't seem to pop and needed more contrast. They seemed really 'washed out' as a group. I painted the second batch in a brighter, deeper blue with more contrast colours and I'm pretty happy with how they've turned out. I'll now paint all the first Warband base in this scheme and hopefully post pictures soon once they are based.
Pendraken Team,
Any word on the next army packs being available?
Sincerely,
Impatient in Indiana 8)
Quote from: gregernest on 16 March 2015, 10:59:54 AM
Any word on the next army packs being available?
Next up is the Barbarians, which should be landing from the sculptor sometime in the next couple of weeks. We're hoping to have them moulded straightaway and released as quickly as possible, so it shouldn't be too far into April.
After those, the Undead will be next up.
Looks like a lot of 10mm figures are going to be zooming around the world. :)
Problem is there are so many force choices for Barbarians and Undead. Hmmmmm, might have to do a few variations on them. :-\
Roll on April, hang on, that's at least 15 days away, what will we all do inbetween times??????? :(
Guess the answer is simple, attack the lead piles! :D
Phil,
If you are re sculpting Barbarians...
Please
Please
Pleasepleasepleaseplease
Please
Can you do something about the barbarian holding the sword over his head?
The sword is very weak at the handle, below the guard.
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaasssse!
Will
Already taken care of, Will. ;)
3 of that pose have been strengthened at that point....Two have now got axes.....And one has the sword down.
Forgot to plonk down....The last code of the Barbarians is on the desk now, and all being well, the whole army will be off to Pendraken Towers, either at the end of this week, or very early next
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Dunnadd on 13 March 2015, 01:48:35 AM
When i was a lad we had Tolkien, Runequest, Warhammer and Michael Moorcock. Now it's all vampires shagging and Harry frigging Potter. Young people today, etc.
How interesting.... Tell me more about your experience with wargames and runequest/glorantha/white bear and red moon 8)
I played a couple of games with 10mm figures in dragon pass setting and always wanted to make a couple or armies !
Didn't do any Runequest wargames to be honest. Played a few roleplaying games of it but they were in semi-historical fantasy settings like vikings plus viking myth etc. Do still have some Ral Partha Runequest as beastmen in my 25/28/30/32mm figures.
Such lovely times :)
Agreed, I loved Runequest.
Many many many happy hours :)
We've just released more Monsters for Warband: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,12382.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,12382.0.html)
8)
Lovely