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Title: Warband Rules!
Post by: Leon on 21 January 2015, 12:51:08 AM
We gave a little hint towards this news last year, saying we had a 'first for Pendraken' coming soon, and here it is!

We are extremely happy to announce that the first set of official Pendraken rules are now available, Warband, written by Steve Hardy!

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Warband provides all the rules you need to bring great battles between fantasy armies to your tabletop.

Using miniature figures and terrain, you can fight battles from the glorious sword and sorcery epics you've read about.  
You can play games against your friends or competitive battles against worthy opponents.



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Warband is designed to be simple to learn and difficult to master, and so it uses a single consistent task resolution method throughout the rules.  Whether you’re trying to get a unit of warriors to move, seeing how effective it’s shooting or fighting is, or how well it has defended itself, you’ll be using the same dice pool mechanism.  You determine the number of dice to roll and each result of 4+ is a success.  The more successes you roll, the better your units will do, and the more likely you are to win.  Simple!

Of course fighting a good tactical battle, getting your units into advantageous situations, and making effective command decisions will mean you’ll be far more likely to win.  Coming up with effective tactics for your chosen army to defeat your opponents is what will take you time to master.

So with Warband’s intuitive rules you’ll be fighting the battle not the rulebook, and hopefully having a lot of fun into the bargain!



(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/Warband/WarbandSShot2_zps6f78f1e3.jpg)

You'll be able to decide which of the fantastic races you'd like to command and then construct your force from the lists provided.  
Warband includes complete army lists for twelve armies, with abilities, options, spell lists, and descriptions including;
Barbarian men, Dark elves, Dragon men, Eldritch vampires, Goblins, High elves, Hill dwarves, Lizardmen, Samurai apes, Taurians, Undead, and Wood elves.

Army composition and optional upgrades are highly flexible, allowing you to build the force that best fits your style of play.  If you'd like to command a horde of bison riding barbarians, rampaging minotaurs, skirmishing ghouls, or serried ranks of deadly elven archers then you'll find something to suit you in the Warband rules.



As well as the printed copies (available through the Pendraken website, priced at £16), there will also be pdf versions available through Wargame Vault (priced at £10).

To go with these new rules, we are giving our Fantasy ranges a complete overhaul to provide as much variety as possible.  The new ranges will feature larger packs of 25 assorted infantry, 12 assorted cavalry or 3 guns with crews, each priced at £4.50 per pack.  All of these packs contain maximum variety, with no two figures being the same!  Phil Lewis has spent a huge amount of time sculpting these, changing weapons, adding shields, cloaks or pouches, to make every figure different to the last.  As far as we know this level of variety has not been seen before in this scale, so we're really looking forward to getting these released and out there to complement the new rules!

The first two revamped ranges to be released will be the Hill Dwarves and the Goblins, each coming with a handy new army pack built around the Warband rules.

We're really excited about this and can't wait to get Warband released, along with the new ranges.  

Finally, we'd like to thank the author, Steve Hardy, as well for the time and effort he's put into these, and hopefully you'll all enjoy playing with them!

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: GordonY on 21 January 2015, 04:38:25 AM
Ok Leon, I'll bite, one BIG question, whats the basing for the figures?

It matters as lots of us have stuff based already for Warhamster.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Dave Fielder on 21 January 2015, 04:59:05 AM
... ie Can we.use existing 10mm Fantasy Armies based on 40x20mm bases for these rules? If yes then good that's a real winner.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: mad lemmey on 21 January 2015, 06:17:30 AM
Sounds perfect and fun.
Bases shouldn't matter if it's in house and you agree on a base size. All my bases are 60x30 anyway when I was running the kids club last year!
And it looks like Phil's top secret project is out the bag (Ihad my money on Warsaw Pact infantry too)  :'(. I've got a lot of the ranges named anyway! :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Aquahog on 21 January 2015, 06:52:04 AM
If your group is picky just run 120x60 or 80x40 or any other 40x20 multiple you prefer. I doubt it will matter much in the long run as long as both sides use the same frontages. I for one think the movement trays idea sounds like the perfect remedy. But enough on the rules, there's always options if they aren't good (which I hope and think they'll be), please tell me more about these new ranges. When can we expect to see them?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Aquahog on 21 January 2015, 07:01:23 AM
I just noticed the archers in the Hill Dwarf army list preview! I'll have to redo my Battle of the Five Armies, ahem, army with these.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: fsn on 21 January 2015, 08:12:33 AM
What Shula and Eddie Grundy and Clarrie and naughty Brian Aldridge?  :o

Takes wargaming into a new dimension!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: brothercrow on 21 January 2015, 08:16:19 AM
The unit of measurement is the base width, so although 10x5 is the recommended size (cos it looks good), we have played games with 40x20 quite happily.....!  4 such bases per unit works particularly well.......!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Bunny on 21 January 2015, 08:23:44 AM
I own a very large collection of 15mm fantasy, yes I do use 10mm in the armies as well, and they are majority based on 80mm frontage with 30 or 40mm depth, and I would have no problem with using theses with the rules.   If they play well.....I'll await some reviews.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 21 January 2015, 08:26:53 AM
Basing:

You may already have armies based for other game systems.  In this case you can certainly use whatever you have, although a basing convention that has each base twice as wide as it is deep will give you a better game with these rules.  As long as both armies are based similarly your games will be fine.  Its even possible, although not desirable, to field armies with mismatched basing but you’ll need to agree a standard ‘base width’ measurement with your opponent.

However, it is highly recommended that you base your armies in the manner suggested as the visual appeal and the practical interactions between unit sizes will enhance your game.
- p6

The basing is set at 100x50mm in order to really show off the strength of Pendraken's figures.  

However, we all have collections based for other game systems and Warband will easily accommodate those.  Much of the early playtesting used 40x20mm bases to sort out the basic concepts and rules structure; before we progressed to using saboted 80x40 and 100x50mm to try out what looked best and worked pleasingly.

I would suggest you try the intended 100x50mm though, it gives you a chance to create great little vignettes and, frankly, looks very good!  The sheer visual impact of the lovely Pendraken 10mm figures ranked up on mass, or modelled as an unruly mob, or a cabal of wizards summoning some sort of monster is something to be considered.  

If not, or you don't want to rebase or use your existing smaller bases as they are, Pendraken's 'movement trays' will help out.  4x 40x20mm bases will fit onto a 100x50mm with a pleasing 'lip' around the edge, and i'm sure the 3-base standard for Warmaster units would look fine arrayed up as a 'boar's head' formation.

Of course, there's always the option of diving in with a new army!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: CPTHilts on 21 January 2015, 08:44:33 AM
How many bases will we need exactly to have an allowed Warband or army to play according to the rulebook?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 21 January 2015, 08:46:18 AM
Depends on the army and units you choose,  but 8-12 units/bases is about average.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: CPTHilts on 21 January 2015, 08:57:13 AM
Thanks very much, on which table size will it be played? It sounds very interesting!

I am relatively new to Pendraken and to the forum, but I like your miniatures very much (saw you on the Crisis 2013 and 2014).

I bought some miniatures from your AWI range, they are extremely good.

Started painting them by now.

Thanks again,

Steffen


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 21 January 2015, 09:12:18 AM
Well this sounds ace!  Very much looking forward to this.
Put me down for 2 copies.  (If I gift one to a friend, he'll haveto play!)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Techno on 21 January 2015, 09:21:02 AM
Thanks very much, on which table size will it be played? It sounds very interesting!
I am relatively new to Pendraken and to the forum, but I like your miniatures very much (saw you on the Crisis 2013 and 2014).
I bought some miniatures from your AWI range, they are extremely good.
Started painting them by now.Thanks again,Steffen

Welcome to the forum, Steffen !
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: CPTHilts on 21 January 2015, 09:29:17 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome,
I think, I will introduce myself in the Welcome section again, to do it the right way  :)



Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 21 January 2015, 09:59:45 AM
For those already based for Warmaster why not just use 80x40?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Roy on 21 January 2015, 10:09:36 AM
The Warband rules sound interesting and something that I'd be keen to know more about.

If there's a copy (of Warband) to browse at the York show (on the P.M. stand) I'd certainly like to give it once over.

 


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 21 January 2015, 10:12:39 AM
Are these the rules Luddite was writing?

And are the resculpts Techno's secret project?

If it is  how does Techno feel going back to his roots by sculpting 10mm fantasy again?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: toxicpixie on 21 January 2015, 10:22:59 AM
We're currently on Impetus 80mm wide by various deep bases as we've shifted from Warmaster to Imp. Fantasy. I wouldn't rebase again, but as it looks like the rules on base sizes are pretty flexible (i.e. using base widths) then I'd give them a bash as is.

Already use some of the Warmaster based stuff on sabots so not a problem to do exactly the same for this :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Orcs on 21 January 2015, 10:53:12 AM
I was quite excited to see these being released, then I read the comments on base sizes and the use of base widths and was dissapointed.  

It seems (to me)  unwise to use sizes that do not use multiples of the 40mm x 20mm base size that seems to be the  most common  for 10/15mm figures. particuarly when the play testing was done with this size base. I appreciate that most of us can apply the logic of just using 4 warmaster bases per unit, but its a shame this was not done in the rules.

My other bugbear is the use of Base widths for measurement.  It does not remove the need for a ruler or tape measure and just adds to complexity, thus slowing the game down.  

Orcs


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Ithoriel on 21 January 2015, 10:54:56 AM
At first glance I'm not seeing anything in the rules that would shift me from Warmaster to be honest but I am open to being convinced. I am, however, looking forward to the new figures and keeping my fingers crossed that the Balori (or whatever they wind up being called) make it into production.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: brothercrow on 21 January 2015, 11:17:25 AM
We have played numerous test games using 4 x DBx/HotT bases, and even with the variable base depths, they work exceedingly well. We found four x foot bases (whether 15mm depth or 20mm depth) and two x Cavalry bases is about right. Warmaster bases would be about the same I guess...

I'm probably biased, as I've been involved in the testing, but it is a solid fun game, very much decision based and played to conclusion in a couple of hours. It can be quite tense at times in a DBx sort  of way, though the rules mechanics are very different. Table size, well it is defined in base widths/depths, but we found 6x4 works well when units have 8cm to 10cm frontage.

I'll certainly be picking up a copy (and probably a new army) when released!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Subedai on 21 January 2015, 11:39:53 AM
I don't normally get involved in discussions like this but this particular issue but...well, read on.

I don't know anything and haven't read anything about these rules but reading some of the comments on this thread has left me a little annoyed. I always thought that wargamers were a very open minded and adaptable bunch of people but dismissive comments using base sizes as an argument seems a little petty to me.
Has anybody who commented negatively actually tried them yet?
I assume that some if not all of the playtesters frequent this forum so how about comments from them? Do the basic mechanics work okay, does the game flow, are the rules relatively easy to follow? These should be the major issues, not bl**dy base sizes!
As others have said, 4 of 40x20 should/will work okay so what the hell is the problem?

Sorry, it just really got my goat!

Rant over.

(Just read brothercrow's recent comment but I'm going to post this anyway.)


Title: Re: Sv: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Aquahog on 21 January 2015, 11:40:03 AM
Why are base widths an issue? Just do a quick reference (or ask for one, the internet is nice and willing) with the ranges in centimeters if you can't be bothered to multiply with ten or your own base width equivalence.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: brothercrow on 21 January 2015, 11:58:17 AM
I find a nice 4BW stick marked at 1 width intervals helps... ;-)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Techno on 21 January 2015, 12:02:43 PM
And are the resculpts Techno's secret project?

Yup !!  ;)

If it is  how does Techno feel going back to his roots by sculpting 10mm fantasy again?

Thoroughly enjoying it, Steve !  :)

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 21 January 2015, 12:59:23 PM
Quite pleased I haven't currently got any fantasy armies based up. This might be a fun way to game late C15th fantasy Italian condotta, for which I have, as yet, unsullied figures.

Cheers Bob


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Ithoriel on 21 January 2015, 01:11:48 PM
I don't normally get involved in discussions like this but this particular issue but...well, read on.

As others have said, 4 of 40x20 should/will work okay so what the hell is the problem?

Sorry, it just really got my goat!

Rant over.


4 of 40x20 is a problem because I have several large armies which are painted and organised in units of 3 bases.

I find the current fad for Base Width measurements an irritation. Yes, I can knock up a quick ref chart in a few minutes but it's one more reason not to change from whatever rules I'm using. I know, I know, old dogs ... new tricks and all that :)

The pages posted don't look to be doing anything particularly new or interesting. A solid and well laid out set without a doubt but nothing to drag me away from Warmaster.

I play comparatively few tabletop miniatures games these days so when I do I prefer to use rules we all know to maximize playing time. That said, if something new and innovative turns up then as a group we'll give it a go.

New figures, however, I'll happily add to the ridiculously large pile of unpainted figures I already have :-)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: WeeWars on 21 January 2015, 01:38:43 PM
4 of 40x20 is a problem because I have several large armies which are painted and organised in units of 3 bases.

Yes, that is a problem. Whether we like it or not, our games begin with figures glued onto bases. But for anyone wanting to use their existing Warmaster armies it's more a problem of unit size rather than a reluctance to use sabot bases.

A solution that jumps into my mind would be to use only 2 Warmaster bases, making both cavalry and infantry 'bases' 40 x 40mm.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: toxicpixie on 21 January 2015, 01:41:35 PM
For Fantasy impetus I've used either two stands next to each other, or three - two front, one behind or reversed for "wedges" like knights. Looks quite good, gives quite a sort of organic look as the lines thin and thicken around the commanders etc.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Westmarcher on 21 January 2015, 01:45:38 PM
Rebasing, rebasing. If I rebased every time a new rules set came out, I would never have played any new rules (I learned that after the fourth time ..... :) )

Gentlemen!. We are wargamers and we will overcome!

[altogether now  ... ]
We shall overcoawwwmme, we shall over caww-umm, we shall overcawwmme these roo-oo-oo-ools, becozz deep in our hearts, we are old farts wargamers, we shall etc.....

[btw, every time I type in 'wargamers' the auto-correct on my computer changes it to 'warmers'  :o ....... such insubordination! ... >:( .... what is it trying to tell me?  :-\]


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Bodvoc on 21 January 2015, 01:57:44 PM
Rules from Pendraken is an exciting step forward, I am certainly interested in the Warband rules. My Fantasy 10mm are on 6x3cm bases (Impetus and Sword and Spear)and I will just use those for my games. When is the release date? and what is the probable cost?  Bring em' on!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 21 January 2015, 02:04:12 PM
When is the release date? and what is the probable cost?  Bring em' on!

Hi Bodvoc, the hard copy rules are currently at the printers, so release date is 'as soon as possible'.

As well as the printed copies (to be available through the Pendraken website, priced at £16), there will also be pdf versions available through Wargame Vault (release date and price to be confirmed).


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 21 January 2015, 02:13:12 PM
No chance them being on Amazon?

I got a voucher for Xmas and I cant decide what to do with it


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Bodvoc on 21 January 2015, 02:22:13 PM
£16, i'm in! and thanks for the prompt reply. Anychance they will be on sale at Vapnartak in York?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: toxicpixie on 21 January 2015, 02:23:26 PM
If you've got them in hand for WMMMS I might part with some cash after a flick thru :)

Sadly, we're about comfortable with Impetus Fantasy so it'll be an impulse "ahhh g'wan then!" purchase if I do ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Orcs on 21 January 2015, 02:57:59 PM
4 of 40x20 is a problem because I have several large armies which are painted and organised in units of 3 bases.

I find the current fad for Base Width measurements an irritation. Yes, I can knock up a quick ref chart in a few minutes but it's one more reason not to change from whatever rules I'm using. I know, I know, old dogs ... new tricks and all that :)

The pages posted don't look to be doing anything particularly new or interesting. A solid and well laid out set without a doubt but nothing to drag me away from Warmaster.

I play comparatively few tabletop miniatures games these days so when I do I prefer to use rules we all know to maximize playing time. That said, if something new and innovative turns up then as a group we'll give it a go.

New figures, however, I'll happily add to the ridiculously large pile of unpainted figures I already have :-)

I have agree with Ithoriel.  especially about the need to add new shiny figure to my lead pile.

That said I wish Pendraken all the best with the rules, just that they will probably not "float my boat"


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Sandinista on 21 January 2015, 03:26:41 PM
I don't normally get involved in discussions like this but this particular issue but...well, read on.

I don't know anything and haven't read anything about these rules but reading some of the comments on this thread has left me a little annoyed. I always thought that wargamers were a very open minded and adaptable bunch of people but dismissive comments using base sizes as an argument seems a little petty to me.
Has anybody who commented negatively actually tried them yet?
I assume that some if not all of the playtesters frequent this forum so how about comments from them? Do the basic mechanics work okay, does the game flow, are the rules relatively easy to follow? These should be the major issues, not bl**dy base sizes!
As others have said, 4 of 40x20 should/will work okay so what the hell is the problem?

Sorry, it just really got my goat!

Rant over.

(Just read brothercrow's recent comment but I'm going to post this anyway.)

I was thinking the same thing


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Luddite on 21 January 2015, 05:16:10 PM
I am, however, looking forward to the new figures and keeping my fingers crossed that the Balori (or whatever they wind up being called) make it into production.

I'm itching to get my mitts on these little fellows too!



Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 21 January 2015, 05:30:12 PM
Thanks for all the comments, it looks like we're keeping the age old tradition of 'Marmite rules' going! 

On the bases, we completely understand what people are saying and the base sizes was one of the first things we chatted about at Pendraken HQ.  We're putting a huge amount of time and money into this project, so the last thing we'd do is make the rules so exclusive that people couldn't get into them easily. 

As Chieftain and others have said, other base sizes will work just as well, and we'll also be making movement trays to cover every option for people who want to use their existing armies.  Whether it's 40x20's in a block, 60x30's, 40x30's or even 40x20's in a triangle formation, we'll make a tray for it.  These are a fun and simple to learn set of rules that we really want to become the 'go to' set for Fantasy 10mm gaming, so we'll be doing everything we possibly can to make it easy for people to get involved.

It's worth mentioning as well that the 100x50mm bases look fantastic as a unit, all painted nicely as almost mini-diorama's, they look like a proper warband.   ;)  They're also easy to move about the table as well, and you've got the space around the figures for handy things like dice frames for tracking casualties, etc...

There will be loads of support and info available here which we'll be constantly updating and adding to, and we're hoping to take the rules on the road as well to do some displays at some of the shows this year.

No chance them being on Amazon?

No immediate plans for that, mainly as I've not dealt with them before and I've seen some bad reviews.  It'll really depend on the success of the rules and whether we get asked a lot about other sales streams.

Any chance they will be on sale at Vapnartak in York?

Hopefully is the best I can say right now.  The printers said they should be with us within 10 days or so, and that was the end of last week, so we should be getting them just before the York show.

If you've got them in hand for WMMMS I might part with some cash after a flick thru :)

We'll definitely have them in time for WMMS, no worries there.


Thanks again for all the comments!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: ronan on 21 January 2015, 06:33:50 PM
(...)
It's worth mentioning as well that the 100x50mm bases look fantastic as a unit, all painted nicely as almost mini-diorama's, they look like a proper warband.   ;)  (...)


We want pics !!  :D

 ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Gunhit on 21 January 2015, 06:36:57 PM
Hi Leon and team,

Just like to add my support to this new development. The rules sound interesting and I certainly prefer the large base sizes for this scale and below.

I am in the process of toying between 15mm and 10mm for my fantasy gaming so this new venture of yours has arrived at the right time for me. Any ideas when we can get a peak at the new miniatures?

Adrian


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 21 January 2015, 06:53:12 PM
We want pics !!  :D

There are some in the rulebook...!  :D

I am in the process of toying between 15mm and 10mm for my fantasy gaming so this new venture of yours has arrived at the right time for me. Any ideas when we can get a peak at the new miniatures?

The new figures are almost ready to go, I just need to get some photo's taken for the website and then we can get them all released.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 21 January 2015, 07:15:21 PM
Pictures?

Here's a full army.

This one was one of the play tester armies.  A serious goblin warband.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-poYJjeFQ5bo/UcC224BcEPI/AAAAAAAABVM/esm9RPirX9o/s1600/IMG_0197.JPG)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: mad lemmey on 21 January 2015, 07:20:34 PM
I recognise those Shamen!  ;D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Squirrel on 21 January 2015, 07:35:10 PM
Great news about the rules, I hope that after so many people have urged Pendraken to produce their own rules here on the forum in the past, that they will be well supported! Admittedly 9 ot of 10 rule sets I buy get read and never used, but I'll probably pick up the PDF when its available. (Just to keep up with the in crowd, yes my existing fantasy armies are based for WM, but a movement tray is not exactly rocket science!)

Most exciting for me is the prospect of new Hill Dwarves and Goblins by our talented Techno  :D 8) Can't wait to see those!

Cheers,

Kev


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: ronan on 21 January 2015, 07:44:38 PM
Leon,  ;D

Chieftain : Thank you ! wonderful !

I agree with  Squirrel, I'll surely buy the pdf, but fantasy is not my main "era".


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: andys on 21 January 2015, 08:09:22 PM
Fantasy rules you say? Colour me interested.

May I suggest photos of the fantasy range miniatures on the website? Might help to boost sales?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 21 January 2015, 09:27:10 PM
May I suggest photos of the fantasy range miniatures on the website? Might help to boost sales?

All of the new ranges will have photos with them, so no worries there!

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: capthugeca on 21 January 2015, 10:23:46 PM
Sorry if I've missed it but has this question been answered:
On which table size will it be played?
Sorry - ignore that. I've just noticed the FAQ.

I'm afraid that the bases and size of table are bit much for me. I'm sticking to Brent Spivey's Mayhem which I am really enjoying.

But I wish all the best with the venture and will certainly be dipping into Techno's new creations.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Womble67 on 21 January 2015, 11:13:04 PM
Hi all
        I think this is fantastic news. And wish Pendraken evey success

Take care

Andy


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 21 January 2015, 11:59:50 PM


I'm afraid that the bases and size of table are bit much for me. I'm sticking to Brent Spivey's Mayhem which I am really enjoying.



I got Mayhem for Xmas as a I asked for it. Not what I really want in a game though.  I think it will be put on ebay next week


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 22 January 2015, 01:07:59 PM
Okay, this looks superexcellent.
I do like the idea of a diorama-style bases, particularly for 'horde' armies like goblins.
I'm very close to being giddy with excitement.
As close as I ever get anyway.
Will certainly be investing in this.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: andys on 22 January 2015, 05:38:15 PM
All of the new ranges will have photos with them, so no worries there!

 8)
...and the old ranges that aren't being replaced? Or are they all getting redone?!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 22 January 2015, 07:05:37 PM
...and the old ranges that aren't being replaced? Or are they all getting redone?!

We'll be trying to add more pictures of the old Fantasy ranges, but those will be in the regular photo queue with everything else.  We'll get as much done as we can though.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: far4ngn on 22 January 2015, 07:13:36 PM
I'm up to play these rules, any idea if they can be done solo :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Gunhit on 22 January 2015, 10:08:54 PM
Question on the Army lists. Will they be similar to Warmaster and be specific to set fantasy armies/ backgrounds etc or can a player create their own army lists depending on the fantasy world that inspires them?

Adrian


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 22 January 2015, 10:12:22 PM
When Luddite was talking about them  many moons ago ( I presume these are the same rules) they seemed to be very generic. I dont think it would be too hard to adapt them to a setting you want


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 22 January 2015, 10:19:30 PM
Hi Gunhit.

The army lists are set, although not to any specific background.  They are mix of 'traditional' factions, and some unique lists based around Pendraken's fantasy army ranges.

There are twelve armies available;

BARBARIAN MEN
Barbarian men are savage tribes of primitive humans who are as rugged and wild as their homeland.  They fight alongside an array of fearsome beasts and monsters.

DARK ELVES
Dark elves have made the underground realms their home, and come to the surface to raid and make war.  Their powerful magic and skilled archers fight alongside monsters of the underworld.

DRAGON MEN
Dragon men hail from fertile feudal lands.  Their armies are filled with ranks of armoured knights and warriors.  They are ruled by dread chromatic dragons who rule as terrible kings.

ELDRITCH VAMPIRES
Eldritch vampires cast their dark rule over stygian lands of mountain, forest, and swamp, where subdued folk are dominated to serve their twisted masters alongside all manner of undead horrors.

GOBLINS & ORCS
Goblins and orcs are vigorous, fractious tribes who live by hunting, raiding, and war.  Their tribe queens and war chiefs drive great hosts of warriors and monsters into battle.

HIGH ELVES
The high elves are ancient and powerful folk, with skilled archers and magic users.  They count dragons and elementals among their monstrous allies.

HILL DWARVES
Hill dwarves are the living embodiment of stoicism.  They seem almost carved from the rock of their homelands.  Their warriors are well armoured and fight alongside powerful artillery and monstrous elemental creatures.

LIZARDMEN
Lizardmen dwell in vast jungles and rain forests, where their semi-aquatic folk thrive in the abundant life-energies.  The lizardmen and their newtmen cousins take to war alongside forest beasts of all kinds.

SAMURAI APES
Samurai apes inhabit a mystical island that has yet to fully form.  They are masters of war who are innately linked to the chaotic elemental energy of their homeland.

TAURIANS
Taurians are centaurs and minotaurs who dwell in a land of mazes and labyrinths.  Their tribal city armies are savage, primitive, and powerful.

UNDEAD
Undead inhabit a sour and wasted land where no life survives.  Their armies are filled with skeletons and the recently dead, and are commanded by vampires and necromancers.

WOOD ELVES
Wood elves are fickle and wild folk from the woodland realms, and like their kin are master archers and spell casters.  Great eagles, forest elementals and the feared arboreal dragons are their allies.

Within each army, there are many units and troops to choose from, and these can be further modified with 'optional upgrades'.  These have been designed so that they will allow you to tailor your army to your specific fighting style, rather than to generate an 'optimal build'.  

It means that no two armies should ever be quite the same.  For example, you could build a Barbarian Men army that is a nomadic mounted force riding into battle on bisons and mammoths, or a mountain tribe of infantry archers, fire elementals and flying icarusi owl men.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: mad lemmey on 23 January 2015, 06:11:33 AM
This is really sounding like a 'what did I paint last year' list!
Only need three of those for the full set!

Lots of dragons mentioned there, does that mean new ones are on their way?
What of the Fantasy medieval humans?only asking as they have the dragon rider at the moment!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 23 January 2015, 07:30:29 AM
Fantay humans is where I would be interested in going. Already have a Warmaster dragon which is waiting for some paint, not to mention the Warmaster steam tank. And Ironsuke has posted a very good video on making hang gliders for crossbowmen.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: cbr3d.com on 23 January 2015, 07:59:38 AM
AARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

I can hear those dreaded sounds now, 'Grandad, can you get us some of them - and paint and base them for us as well.  Pleeeaaaasssseeeee........... '.  Of course being a hard hearted, uncaring, and down right Grumpy Old Man - I start clicking on the 'Add to basket' buttons.    :)

Of course that also means that I had better learn the rules so as to play against the GK's, life can be so hard at times.   ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Techno on 23 January 2015, 08:01:11 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: toxicpixie on 23 January 2015, 09:06:21 AM
"These are presents for the grand kids, Mrs. Fig.ht, honest"

"They'll make great Xday-presents"


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Roy on 23 January 2015, 09:46:58 AM
 :-bd Loving the sound of those army lists!



Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: xccam on 23 January 2015, 10:21:15 AM
This sounds pretty cool guys


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: nikharwood on 23 January 2015, 03:55:15 PM
Great to see these completed - nice to see Pendraken get into the rules arena  8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 23 January 2015, 04:41:36 PM
Hello Xxcam, Nice to hear from you.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 23 January 2015, 05:17:12 PM
Lots of dragons mentioned there, does that mean new ones are on their way?
What of the Fantasy medieval humans?only asking as they have the dragon rider at the moment!

Fantay humans is where I would be interested in going. Already have a Warmaster dragon which is waiting for some paint, not to mention the Warmaster steam tank. And Ironsuke has posted a very good video on making hang gliders for crossbowmen.

The humans are one of the bigger jobs sculpting wise as we're starting from scratch on those.  The current Humans are simply our Late Medieval historical figures, so they don't match up properly to the slightly larger Fantasy sculpts.  Techno's going to be making completely new figures for those but we wanted to get some of the other ranges done first as they're quicker conversion jobs.

There are some revamped Dragons coming as well, Phil's been doing work on the various ones we had before to give more variety.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 23 January 2015, 05:22:47 PM
Given what I already have on my plate at the moment I'll hang on for those humans. Will take a look at the rules at Vapnartak if they're there, otherwise Triples.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 23 January 2015, 05:44:39 PM
I just got some of the Elizabethans for my human army as I like the look of the period. Though some Tudor and Late Medieval will be mixed in


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 23 January 2015, 08:51:29 PM
I'm up to play these rules, any idea if they can be done solo :)

Not having much experience with solo gaming, it's hard to say.

However, given the way that command and unit 'activation' works, I would say that they might do.

It will be interesting to hear the experiences of people who decide to use them for solo gaming.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 23 January 2015, 10:43:42 PM
Now look here Hormone Treatment.... :D

Of course being a hard hearted, uncaring, and down right Grumpy Old Man

It's all very well being a new member and all, but playing fast and loose with a patented by-line is a bit much....

Goes off to mumble and dribble in the corner.....

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Aquahog on 23 January 2015, 11:17:12 PM
I can't speak for all solo players but generally what kills a game off as soloable for me is if it requires information to be hidden between the sides e.g. secret objective cards.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: cbr3d.com on 24 January 2015, 12:53:32 AM
Now look here Hormone Treatment.... :D

It's all very well being a new member and all, but playing fast and loose with a patented by-line is a bit much....

Goes off to mumble and dribble in the corner.....

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 ;) ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Maenoferren on 24 January 2015, 10:48:33 PM
Are the wood elves getting an update too?  The teeny bows I can cope with but not the horses :)
Please say yes...pretty please


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 24 January 2015, 11:11:32 PM
Are the wood elves getting an update too?  The teeny bows I can cope with but not the horses :)
Please say yes...pretty please

There aren't any changes planned to the horses unfortunately, I'm quite keen on them myself!  We could maybe do with some differently posed horses in the future, but that's something we'd need to work on separately further down the line.

The riders themselves will be getting the revamp treatment, little changes here and there to give more variety.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Luddite on 24 January 2015, 11:40:55 PM
Hi Leon, if you ever plan to revamp your mounted figures, would you consider adopting 'separate mount and rider'?

Is that viable in 10mm?

Following the 10mm Bears thread it occured to me that being able to put riders on different beasties might be fun.   ;D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 25 January 2015, 12:31:22 AM
Hi Leon, if you ever plan to revamp your mounted figures, would you consider adopting 'separate mount and rider'?

Is that viable in 10mm?

Following the 10mm Bears thread it occured to me that being able to put riders on different beasties might be fun.   ;D

Possibly, but it depends on a few things.  The revamped Goblin riders will be separate to the wolves, but the new Hill Dwarves won't be.  Having them separate takes up a lot more space in the mould, plus it adds an element of time for the customers putting them together.  I think it's best reserved for codes where we've got a good selection of different horses/riders so that people can get maximum variety from being able to pose them themselves.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Luddite on 25 January 2015, 03:28:11 PM
No worries.   :-bd


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Nosher on 25 January 2015, 07:11:17 PM
What sort of prices will the army packs be?

Will you be doing any 'deals'? buy two armies and the rules etc??


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Steeleye on 26 January 2015, 06:18:31 AM
Although I wish every success to Pendraken with their new Warband rules I won't be buying them...I simply do not buy rules I prefer to write my own.

What I am interested in, however, is the revamped (how do you 'revamp' a 'vamp'? Bite him/her on the neck twice perhaps?) fantasy range. I'm planning on buying a Goblin/Hobgoblin army and I'm wondering should I buy the 'old' range now (I always thought the Goblins were some of the best figures in the Fantasy ranges) or should I wait weeks, months, or possibly years for the 'new' Goblins to come out.

Although I cannot praise Pendraken figures enough, it has to be said that if Pendraken has a fault its the time it takes from announcing that a new/revamped range will be coming out and the figures actually appearing!

Any wild guesses as to when these revamped figures are likely to appear?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 26 January 2015, 09:00:17 PM
What sort of prices will the army packs be?

Will you be doing any 'deals'? buy two armies and the rules etc??

We're looking at £25-£30 per army at the moment, I just need to finalise the army pack compositions.  There will be a deal for two armies plus rules as well, but I need to figure out how to work that on our website, as the rules don't have VAT on them but army packs do...  :-\


What I am interested in, however, is the revamped (how do you 'revamp' a 'vamp'? Bite him/her on the neck twice perhaps?) fantasy range. I'm planning on buying a Goblin/Hobgoblin army and I'm wondering should I buy the 'old' range now (I always thought the Goblins were some of the best figures in the Fantasy ranges) or should I wait weeks, months, or possibly years for the 'new' Goblins to come out.

Although I cannot praise Pendraken figures enough, it has to be said that if Pendraken has a fault its the time it takes from announcing that a new/revamped range will be coming out and the figures actually appearing!

Any wild guesses as to when these revamped figures are likely to appear?

The new figures are all moulded and ready to go, so they'll be released at almost the same time as the rules. 

On the delays to the releases recently, we've popped up some info about that here: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11210.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11210.0.html)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Nosher on 26 January 2015, 09:29:55 PM
We're looking at £25-£30 per army at the moment, I just need to finalise the army pack compositions.  There will be a deal for two armies plus rules as well, but I need to figure out how to work that on our website, as the rules don't have VAT on them but army packs do...  :-\

Nice one ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: petercooman on 26 January 2015, 10:07:09 PM
We're looking at £25-£30 per army at the moment, I just need to finalise the army pack compositions.  There will be a deal for two armies plus rules as well, but I need to figure out how to work that on our website, as the rules don't have VAT on them but army packs do...  :-\



Drop the price of the rules when calculating the army packs, so that when VAT is added the customer still pays the regular price for the rules? Or is this a problem for keeping track of VAT?



Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: toxicpixie on 26 January 2015, 10:15:35 PM
Probably a sod for vat tracking like that. Just add a link button to add the rules as a Separate item line - so no "all in one" pack but as easy as possible to do together?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 26 January 2015, 10:17:57 PM
Drop the price of the rules when calculating the army packs, so that when VAT is added the customer still pays the regular price for the rules? Or is this a problem for keeping track of VAT?

It's just a hassle with the paperwork side of things, as a single deal the website won't recognise that the rules are VAT-free, so would add VAT to them.  So UK/EU customers would be paying VAT they shouldn't have to.  If we reduce the total price to compensate for that, then the non-EU folk would get them even cheaper as the VAT would be taken off...

Probably a sod for vat tracking like that. Just add a link button to add the rules as a Separate item line - so no "all in one" pack but as easy as possible to do together?

That would be great, but the website software doesn't allow for adding buttons like that, we'd need the webguy to build that into the site. 

We'll figure something out!

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: fred. on 26 January 2015, 10:20:46 PM
Can you do a discount code for the webstore, so the rules + army packs are added then the discount is applied?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Ironduke on 26 January 2015, 11:39:00 PM
Sounds great, i don't see any problem, I'm guessing the movement trays won't break the bank, then at the end of the game, hey presto lift em out, can't wait to get my hands on the rules, I'd relish the chance to review them


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 27 January 2015, 02:12:49 AM
Can you do a discount code for the webstore, so the rules + army packs are added then the discount is applied?

Not with this current website unfortunately, Matt's working on some updates at the moment which should add some new functions for us.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: toxicpixie on 27 January 2015, 08:24:35 AM
As a work around could you pop a comment in using Disquz with the hyperlink to the rules?!


Title: Re: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Aquahog on 27 January 2015, 03:28:42 PM


The new figures are all moulded and ready to go, so they'll be released at almost the same time as the rules. 

Wonderful news to my ears.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: petercooman on 27 January 2015, 06:04:13 PM
It's just a hassle with the paperwork side of things, as a single deal the website won't recognise that the rules are VAT-free, so would add VAT to them.  So UK/EU customers would be paying VAT they shouldn't have to.  If we reduce the total price to compensate for that, then the non-EU folk would get them even cheaper as the VAT would be taken off...


Yeah forgot not everyone is as lucky as us who have to pay tax  :d



That would be great, but the website software doesn't allow for adding buttons like that, we'd need the webguy to build that into the site. 

We'll figure something out!

 8)

Maybe just add a link to the rules in the description of the item , if that's possible


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: JimLeCat on 27 January 2015, 08:11:56 PM
Hi Leon,


The new figures are all moulded and ready to go, so they'll be released at almost the same time as the rules. 


Do you have any better idea now if you'll have any of these to show at York this weekend?

Cheers,
Jim


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 27 January 2015, 08:39:46 PM
Hi Leon,

Do you have any better idea now if you'll have any of these to show at York this weekend?

Cheers,
Jim

The figures won't be ready in time for the show, but we are hoping the rules will arrive from the printers in time.  We might cast some up and bring them for folks to look at, but we've not got all the packaging sorted for them yet.


Title: Re:
Post by: Aquahog on 27 January 2015, 08:49:28 PM
Step 1 Grab plastic bag
Step 2 Put miniatures in bag
Step 3 Repeat as desired
Step 4 Sell the bags to happy customers who don't care about packaging
Step 5 Get filthy rich and spread the ten mill gospel.

You know where to send the money for my business consultation services. ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: JimLeCat on 27 January 2015, 08:57:45 PM
The figures won't be ready in time for the show, but we are hoping the rules will arrive from the printers in time.  We might cast some up and bring them for folks to look at, but we've not got all the packaging sorted for them yet.

Well, I'll be dropping by your stand anyway, so I guess I'll see what you've got on the day! ;^D


Title: Re:
Post by: Leon on 27 January 2015, 09:11:56 PM
Step 1 Grab plastic bag
Step 2 Put miniatures in bag
Step 3 Repeat as desired
Step 4 Sell the bags to happy customers who don't care about packaging
Step 5 Get filthy rich and spread the ten mill gospel.

You know where to send the money for my business consultation services. ;)

We could do, but we're wanting to make these look a bit more professional, so proper blister packaging and everything!  

Well, I'll be dropping by your stand anyway, so I guess I'll see what you've got on the day! ;^D

No worries, we'll see you there!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: ianrs54 on 28 January 2015, 09:10:16 AM
We could do, but we're wanting to make these look a bit more professional, so proper blister packaging and everything! 

First time for everything I suppose  :d

IanS


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: nikharwood on 28 January 2015, 01:32:08 PM
We're looking at £25-£30 per army at the moment, I just need to finalise the army pack compositions.  There will be a deal for two armies plus rules as well

Most excellent  8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Upgraydd on 28 January 2015, 08:56:20 PM
This is sounding really good, it may be just the thing to get me back to 10mm. I have a couple of questions I couldn't find on the FAQ on these pages;

Will the army packs be sold with bases or will we need to buy these separately?

Will bases be removed after a number of hits/wounds are scored against it? How will hits be recorded? The reason I'm asking is a lot of us like to make min diorama wound markers and we could get started on this while we wait.

Cheers,
Jez


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Techno on 28 January 2015, 09:09:28 PM
As that was your first post, Jez.
Welcome to the forum !!
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 28 January 2015, 09:16:46 PM
Thanks for the reply and welcome to the Forum!

Will the army packs be sold with bases or will we need to buy these separately?

The army packs will have the bases included with them, but the individual packs will not.  We'll have bases for sale separately as well a range of other gaming aids.

Will bases be removed after a number of hits/wounds are scored against it? How will hits be recorded? The reason I'm asking is a lot of us like to make min diorama wound markers and we could get started on this while we wait.

EDITED: As Chieftain has posted a better reply below!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 28 January 2015, 09:17:01 PM
This is sounding really good, it may be just the thing to get me back to 10mm. I have a couple of questions I couldn't find on the FAQ on these pages;

Will the army packs be sold with bases or will we need to buy these separately?

Will bases be removed after a number of hits/wounds are scored against it? How will hits be recorded? The reason I'm asking is a lot of us like to make min diorama wound markers and we could get started on this while we wait.

Cheers,
Jez

Hi Upgraydd (and welcome to the forum!)

Leon covered the basing question perfectly.

Recording hits and morale loss.  
The rules don't specify how you do this as each player will no doubt have their own preferences.  During a game turn you will need to record hits as they are accrued from shooting, melee, magic, and other effects.  These are temporary.  Then there's the permanent loss of morale that will need to be recorded.

The most elegant way we've found to do this during playtesting is to model each base with a dice frame (from Minibits).  

You can see that here.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j9zl1H35Hwk/UcC3fZAV2eI/AAAAAAAABWc/K6Bsk69egCY/s640/IMG_0211.JPG)

(Note, we also found that a second dice on the commander and magic user unit is useful to herd up the command point and magic point markers).

The dice in the picture shows remaining morale.  Units don't have 'wounds' as such, but its the same thing - how much punishment it takes before becoming combat ineffective.

We recorded accrued hits behind the base with small tokens.  However, I heartily recommend making some lovely casualty markers.  There isn't much need for other markers, but we have found that it can be useful to add in one or two for specific battlefield conditional modifiers.  For example, a unit that makes a direct charge into melee gains combat bonuses, and a nicely modelled 'charge bonus' token might be useful every now and then, especially mid-game when the chaos and bedlam of melee is really kicking off...

If you don't like battlefield clutter you could have a paper record, or some other method; whatever works for you.  
Again, making the rules flexible so players can do things their way was important to us.

Are bases removed from the battlefield?  

Ultimately yes, but morale collapse (unit reduced to zero) means the unit routs.  Its only if the unit doesn't rally before fleeing off-table, or gets run down by enemies while routing that it's actually removed.  

Part of the tactical skill in the game is getting into positions where you can sweep your routed enemies from the field.  Letting them escape into the backfield only to have their general rally them and get them back into the battle is most frustrating!

And frankly, the 100x50mm bases with your amazing and lovingly modelled diorama units on will no doubt look so good that it seems a shame to sweep them off the board so easily eh (even if they are running away)?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: mad lemmey on 28 January 2015, 10:00:09 PM
Hello and welcome Jez! :D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Ithoriel on 28 January 2015, 10:26:23 PM
Nothing new under the sun I see :)

I've been working on a set of rules, tentatively called "King of Kish," for Sumerian City State warfare.

60mm square bases with lots of 6mm figures (48 for formed units, 32 for warband types, 16 for skirmishers) who have what I call "cohesion" as their "hit point" equivalent. At 0 Cohesion the unit routs but can be rallied unless it leaves the table or is contacted by an enemy unit. Cohesion is marked with a 5mm dice in a dice frame (another order heading your way soon Leon :) ) and units remain on table unless they rout off or are "Scattered" by contact.

Formed units were originally going to be 60 strong but Rapier do units of 48 so I decided my units would be suffering 3D effects - Disease, Desertion and Detachments :) Besides 60 men would really need 80mm wide bases, so I can get more on the table this way.

I thought I was coming up with something novel!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Upgraydd on 28 January 2015, 11:34:24 PM
Thanks all for the welcomes and the quick, clear responses.

I like the dice frame idea and will definitely incorporate it into my bases. I think modelled combat tokens will be the way to go, they make it easy for onlookers to see what's going on and look good for pictures when doing AAR's.

Jez


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Luddite on 30 January 2015, 03:08:31 PM
Can't wait to see them Jez!   :D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 30 January 2015, 03:53:59 PM
Just arrived now!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10696276_10152967538835412_2121404232614127164_n.jpg?oh=6f9cd151d1493fb098afdd012be4e727&oe=55698926&__gda__=1431466544_7578628d1594d69c602c3bfd5dab4799)

We picked up the QRS sheets today as well, so we just need to get a load of them packaged up and we'll have them on sale at York on Sunday!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: toxicpixie on 30 January 2015, 04:06:40 PM
Shiny!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 30 January 2015, 04:26:17 PM
And in typical Sod's Law, the clear cellophane envelopes we'd bought to put the rules in arrived as well... and they've sent us the wrong size.   >:(  

We've got a backup option, but they don't look as nice and shiny in a gripseal bag.   :(


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 30 January 2015, 04:37:30 PM
They look great Leon!

And just in time for York too. 


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Roy on 30 January 2015, 04:57:22 PM
Does that mean we can't thumb through them before purchase, if they're all in bags?
Or will there be a display copy on the stand?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: cbr3d.com on 30 January 2015, 05:04:22 PM
Hi Leon,

When will us poor bu**ers who can't get to York be able to order one?  (Damned stupid Sunday train timetables.   >:(  )



Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 30 January 2015, 05:30:34 PM
Does that mean we can't thumb through them before purchase, if they're all in bags?
Or will there be a display copy on the stand?

There'll be a copy on the show stand, no worries there. 

 8)

When will us poor bu**ers who can't get to York be able to order one?  (Damned stupid Sunday train timetables.   >:(  )

We're just waiting on the webguy to add a 'Non-VAT' function to the website (as rules don't have any VAT on them), so we're hoping that's done by Monday/Tuesday and then we're good to go.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: nikharwood on 30 January 2015, 06:07:44 PM
Shiny +1


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Upgraydd on 30 January 2015, 08:13:49 PM
Excellent! Looks like I tuned into the ways of the Pendraken just in time...now the wait to get them to the other side of the world once I place my order.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: fsn on 30 January 2015, 08:15:47 PM
Leon! Leon! LEEEON!

Another person from a flung part of the world. Put away the pigeons and get out the homing albatross!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: petercooman on 30 January 2015, 09:36:18 PM
 =O =O =O


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Ken on 01 February 2015, 04:09:56 AM
These are looking pretty cool, any idea when they'll be available on wargame vault?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Bodvoc on 01 February 2015, 07:07:19 PM
Well I got my hands on a copy at the Vapnartak show today and so far I am impressed. The rules are easy to follow, look like the will give a fun, fast moving game with easy to pick up rule systems. The armylists are pretty thorough, making good use of the Pendraken ranges, and I am already thinking Greek Myth, Norse Myth, Arthurian Legend could easily be created. It is also a well presented book with a fast play sheet included.
Having recently been re-basing my 10mm figures onto 6x3cm bases I will stick with that base size and the rules will work just fine.
Overall, recommended.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 01 February 2015, 07:24:37 PM
Discussed with Leon using later condottieri Leonardo-esque armies for this, especially as mione are unpainted and unbased as yet. He reckoned it had legs with the new rules.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: godzilla on 01 February 2015, 07:25:39 PM
Picked up mine at York today  :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 02 February 2015, 08:25:54 AM
I'll definitely get a copy if only to find out how a large base of magic users works; not sure I'm convinced by that :-\


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Bodvoc on 02 February 2015, 08:33:36 AM
On my quick read through, the 'large base of magic users' is better thought of as a base of troops with a/some magic users helping it.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 02 February 2015, 08:37:07 AM
On my quick read through, the 'large base of magic users' is better thought of as a base of troops with a/some magic users helping it.

Yeah, that would make more sense :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 February 2015, 08:46:10 AM
And a lot of sad wizardly wannabes?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 02 February 2015, 09:07:43 AM
In cold mechanical terms, the 'magic user unit' is the unit in your army where your spells are generated and cast from.

Think of it as a magic user (wizard, shaman, necromancer, etc.), or perhaps a cabal of magic users and their familiars, golems, underlings, summoned monsters, guards, and hangers-on.  If you want to, it could also be a unit entirely of magic users too - particularly if you have an exceptional quality unit.  Then again, perhaps a single Gandalf-type figure would be something that looks good.  

It's an opportunity to really go to town on the unit modelling of a diorama; perhaps modelling them summoning a beastie, or standing around a magic rock or structure, chanting, or...well...i'm sure you can think of something that will look great!  Can't wait to see what people do with their magic user units!



'Greek Myth, Norse Myth, Arthurian Legend...Leonardo-esque' armies.

We had to make some hard decisions about which of the 50 or so armies developed made it into the rules.  These four armies were all developed but didn't make the cut!

Actually, the Greek Myth thing made it in and is a strong theme throughout the Taurian army.  Their cousins, the 'Labyrinth Men' didn't make it.
You could also probably make an Arthurian Legend warband from the Dragon Men list (especially if you prefer the later Geoffrey of Monmouth version of the myths).


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: old smokie on 02 February 2015, 05:39:58 PM
when will these be available in the web store  =P~


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 02 February 2015, 05:40:51 PM
when will these be available in the web store  =P~

Hopefully in the next day or two, we're just waiting on some website updates so that the Basket recognises non-VAT goods like wargames rules.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Bodvoc on 02 February 2015, 07:30:50 PM
Once folks are up and running with the rules it could be good to have a thread to share new army lists that players create, and also, how about having the fast play sheet as a download so we can print off extra copies to play with?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 02 February 2015, 10:01:53 PM
Once folks are up and running with the rules it could be good to have a thread to share new army lists that players create, and also, how about having the fast play sheet as a download so we can print off extra copies to play with?

Thanks for the reply, a thread for the army lists would be a great idea, and I know Steve Hardy has got some other lists that didn't make it into the finished book.  I'll double check with the author on the fast play sheet download as well, but it shouldn't be a problem.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 02 February 2015, 11:19:58 PM
It's encouraging to see people asking for additional content already!

There's certainly much that didn't make it into the core rules.

It would be good to see that released at some point, but one step at a time.   :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: neilpcegerton on 05 February 2015, 09:31:06 PM
any update on when we can order pdf and hardcopy


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 05 February 2015, 11:22:25 PM
any update on when we can order pdf and hardcopy

Shouldn't be long now, we're just waiting on our website guy to do the update to allow non-VAT sales (ie, rules!)  As soon as that's done we're good to go on the hardcopies.  The pdf's will be launched at roughly the same time through Wargames Vault.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Luddite on 06 February 2015, 12:05:33 AM
Technology eh?  Who'd have it?   ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Sussex.john on 06 February 2015, 06:00:36 PM
Do you have a hobbit army list knocking around ?  I like the idea of a hobbit against goblin game.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: jchaos79 on 06 February 2015, 08:33:27 PM
little wars, isn't it?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 07 February 2015, 02:28:59 PM
Do you have a hobbit army list knocking around ?  I like the idea of a hobbit against goblin game.

Not a Hobbit list, but there is a halfling list.  It has bee keepers in it.  And burglars.  And scarecrows.   :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Sussex.john on 07 February 2015, 10:16:05 PM
Looks interesting. What are your thoughts about the additional army lists, will you be making them available online or will they be published later in a supplement which we will need to purchase ?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Luddite on 08 February 2015, 04:35:33 PM
(http://staticmass.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/dvd_ice.jpg)

 :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 08 February 2015, 04:38:13 PM
Looks interesting. What are your thoughts about the additional army lists, will you be making them available online or will they be published later in a supplement which we will need to purchase ?

To be honest John, at this stage its a 'we'll see'.   ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 08 February 2015, 06:46:57 PM
As I understand it Ice Cold in Alex is not set in a mystical fairy queendom - the photo is lost on me.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Raider4 on 08 February 2015, 06:50:31 PM
As I understand it Ice Cold in Alex is not set in a mystical fairy queendom - the photo is lost on me.

My guess? The anticipation of a nice cold glass of lager/new wargame rules (delete as applicable)?

Martyn


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 08 February 2015, 06:52:14 PM
Oh.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Luddite on 08 February 2015, 07:03:08 PM
Does this help Leman?


#Invalid YouTube Link#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd7HTlkzS28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd7HTlkzS28)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Upgraydd on 08 February 2015, 09:57:43 PM
Not a Hobbit list, but there is a halfling list.  It has bee keepers in it.  And burglars.  And scarecrows.   :)

I can't wait to get hold of these rules, it's things like this that make these games fun.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Hamish on 10 February 2015, 04:31:56 PM
Is there any plans to supplement this ruleset with expansions for stuff like historical battles? Coz that'd be cool  :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Techno on 10 February 2015, 04:34:26 PM
Can't answer that, Hamish.

But as that was your first post.......Welcome to the forum !
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Hamish on 10 February 2015, 04:38:42 PM
Haha, no problem. I created my account specifically to ask some questions about Warband. I saw the Pendraken stand at Vapnartak a few weeks ago and was more that a little intrigued. Now, having searched through the forums, I'm extremely excited for this game, I think it sounds awesome. Me and my partner have already decided which Warband forces we're going to go for.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 10 February 2015, 05:50:33 PM
Is there any plans to supplement this ruleset with expansions for stuff like historical battles? Coz that'd be cool  :)

At this stage the best answer is potentially...!  It is something we'd like to do, probably as a separate standalone set though.

Welcome to the Forum as well!

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 10 February 2015, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: Hamish on Today at 04:31:56 PM
Quote
Is there any plans to supplement this ruleset with expansions for stuff like historical battles? Coz that'd be cool  

Hi Hamish and welcome!

Glad you're looking forwards to these rules.  I hope they exceed your expectations!    :-bd

As to future developments? I'm afraid I'll have to echo Leon, and repeat what I said above, 'we'll see'.

Warband is a new venture for Pendraken, and so things are all a bit tentative at the moment.  

That said, the author has a variety of further material that could be developed including content for a supplement.

It's also perhaps worth noting that if there were a 'Warband Historical' draft   :-B it would most likely be developed as a separate game, rather than as a supplement to the fantasy rules.  I'll hotly deny rumours that Scipio and Hannibal have been seen clattering around the play test tables lately.

I think its important not to get ahead of ourselves though.  

Hopefully Warband will keep you enthralled in the meantime!    ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: mad lemmey on 10 February 2015, 06:23:03 PM
Hello Hamish!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: paulr on 10 February 2015, 07:02:15 PM
Welcome Hamish


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 10 February 2015, 07:19:07 PM
Welcome aboard Hamish  ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Maenoferren on 10 February 2015, 11:56:34 PM
Hi Hamish.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Upgraydd on 11 February 2015, 01:09:49 AM
Haha, no problem. I created my account specifically to ask some questions about Warband. I saw the Pendraken stand at Vapnartak a few weeks ago and was more that a little intrigued. Now, having searched through the forums, I'm extremely excited for this game, I think it sounds awesome. Me and my partner have already decided which Warband forces we're going to go for.

Hi Hamish, I joined for the same reason but lloks like I'm also getting sucked into some of the other lines  :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Techno on 11 February 2015, 08:11:43 AM
You'll never escape, now !! :d :d :d :d :d ;)
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: ianrs54 on 11 February 2015, 09:22:45 AM
WE HAVE YOU NOW....

Moaning

IanS


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 11 February 2015, 09:42:12 AM
You'll never escape, now !! :d :d :d :d :d ;)
Cheers - Phil

I only went on the PD sight for a brush!  3 years and a serious lead addiction later... :D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 11 February 2015, 11:04:52 AM
Welcome Hamish.

I ended up here 5 years ago to hide from Gareth on other forums.Sadly it hasn't worked


Have fun


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 11 February 2015, 12:46:12 PM
Welcome Hamish.

I ended up here 5 years ago to hide from Gareth on other forums.Sadly it hasn't worked


Have fun

 ;D ;D ;D

Oik 2 :P


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 11 February 2015, 04:35:24 PM
Welcome Hamish. This whole 10mm thing is extremely addictive.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 12 February 2015, 10:50:51 PM
Hi Leon

Any word on the PDF yet at all?

Cheers


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Hamish on 13 February 2015, 07:04:39 PM
I'm sitting on the fence atm, deciding whether to buy some now or wait till the revamped ranges are released. Its gon be good.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: cbr3d.com on 13 February 2015, 07:14:54 PM
I'm sitting on the fence atm, deciding whether to buy some now or wait till the revamped ranges are released. Its gon be good.

Hamish - Or you could buy some of the old ones now and then augment them with the new figures, that way you will be able to have a greater variety.   ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 13 February 2015, 09:45:03 PM
Any word on the PDF yet at all?

I've had a message from the webguy and the update should be in place before the end of the weekend, so both hardcopy and pdf will be available within the next couple of days.

I'm sitting on the fence atm, deciding whether to buy some now or wait till the revamped ranges are released. Its gon be good.

The new figures will appear very soon after, only a couple of days later I'd expect.  I've got all the pics taken (apart from one) so they're good to go.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 13 February 2015, 09:50:46 PM
I've had a message from the webguy and the update should be in place before the end of the weekend, so both hardcopy and pdf will be available within the next couple of days.

The new figures will appear very soon after, only a couple of days later I'd expect.  I've got all the pics taken (apart from one) so they're good to go.

 8)

 8)

Get the burners ready  ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: cbr3d.com on 13 February 2015, 10:02:51 PM
Now to watch the site crash as every member keeps logging on awaiting the launch!   ;D



Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 13 February 2015, 10:03:55 PM
Now to watch the site crash as every member keeps logging on awaiting the launch!   ;D



Nooooooooo!  :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Luddite on 13 February 2015, 10:06:30 PM
(http://img.pandawhale.com/56154-Finding-Nemo-Dory-gif--This-is-BKfR.gif)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 14 February 2015, 02:23:25 AM
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/WarbandAvailable_zps475a3475.jpg)

Right then, as a special treat for all you lovely Forum members, we've set up a special 'Buy It Now' page for the Warband rules, so you can now buy a physical copy ahead of the main release!

Simply follow this link: http://pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-Rules-p7177/ (http://pendraken.co.uk/Warband-Fantasy-Rules-p7177/)!  In no time at all a lovely shiny copy of Warband will drop through your letterbox and you can be one of the cool kids that got it before everyone else!

 :-bd

The pdf version has been submitted to Wargame Vault, but as it's our first publication with them we have to wait for their admin team to authorise it for sale.  Shouldn't be long and I'll update everyone as soon as it's available.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: neilpcegerton on 14 February 2015, 08:14:59 AM
Excellent news, ordered.

Neil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Techno on 14 February 2015, 08:30:10 AM
Just noticed.....
Welcome to the forum, Neil.
Cheers - Neil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: ianrs54 on 14 February 2015, 09:23:39 AM
Arternoon

IanS


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 14 February 2015, 09:26:34 AM
Excellent news, ordered.

Neil

Welcome from me Neil ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: paulr on 14 February 2015, 09:35:32 AM
Hi Neil :-h


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: mad lemmey on 14 February 2015, 10:22:00 AM
Morning Neil!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: mad lemmey on 14 February 2015, 05:06:34 PM
And we're back!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: old smokie on 14 February 2015, 05:07:43 PM
Hi Neil  :-h

working now.  whats the postage cost on the rules



Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Chieftain on 14 February 2015, 05:09:24 PM
(http://ct.weirdnutdaily.com/ol/wn/sw/i55/5/8/20/wnd_620ec3b37a70460b8c856e15692101c1.jpg)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: cbr3d.com on 14 February 2015, 05:11:29 PM
Working fine here, just needed to get the hamster woken up and running on his wheel.    :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 14 February 2015, 08:11:44 PM
working now.  whats the postage cost on the rules

Just the usual Pendraken minimums, so £2 within the UK, £3.50 Europe and £4.00 everywhere else.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fairoaks024 on 14 February 2015, 08:26:33 PM
Excellent news, been waiting since I saw the announcement
on TWW, ordered today and had to join to say hi!
Really looking forward to playong these


Regards

Jim


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 14 February 2015, 08:28:21 PM
Welcome to the forum Mr Fairoaks

What is TWW?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 14 February 2015, 08:30:20 PM
Leon

Have you thought about supplying the rules on a USB stick like some other companies?

For a 512mb one its about a £1   I am sure you get them cheaper in bulk

Just a thought


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Luddite on 14 February 2015, 08:31:43 PM
Welcome Mr Fairoaks.   :-h


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fairoaks024 on 14 February 2015, 08:32:42 PM
Hi Fenton

The wargames website forum

Regards

Jim


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 14 February 2015, 08:34:13 PM
Thanks


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 14 February 2015, 08:39:31 PM
Have you thought about supplying the rules on a USB stick like some other companies?

For a 512mb one its about a £1   I am sure you get them cheaper in bulk

Potentially, I know Pete at Baccus has been doing that for some time now.  Most things depend on how the sales of the rules go, so we'll make notes of everything along the way and see what the best options are as we progress.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 14 February 2015, 08:54:51 PM
Welcome Mr.Fairoaks, or should that be Mr.Sevenpines?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Techno on 15 February 2015, 08:33:51 AM
Welcome, Jim.
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 15 February 2015, 09:48:04 AM
Hello from me Jim  ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fairoaks024 on 15 February 2015, 10:35:12 AM
Cheers chaps, nice to be here

Regards

Jim


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: jambo1 on 15 February 2015, 10:42:02 AM
Welcome to the forum Jim, best one around, really knowledgable and nice bunch :)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 15 February 2015, 10:45:04 AM
nice to be here


Give it time  :D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Hamish on 15 February 2015, 10:46:36 AM
Orderered! I look forward to it's arrival eagerly.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: fsn on 15 February 2015, 11:09:24 AM
Hello Fair Oaks.

Do you wear a lot of green?

Have you got pointy ears and are good with a bow?

Are you a wood Elf?

Yup, most intelligent forum that still allows me to be a member - FSN


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 15 February 2015, 11:16:19 AM


Yup, most intelligent forum that still allows me to be a member - FSN

Does that include the 'special' forum the court order  requires you to attend once  a week?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: fsn on 15 February 2015, 11:17:36 AM
That's less of a Forum and more of a case conference.  :-[


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 15 February 2015, 11:18:19 AM
That's less of a Forum and more of a case conference.  :-[

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: cbr3d.com on 15 February 2015, 11:49:40 AM
Does that include the 'special' forum the court order  requires you to attend once  a week?

That's less of a Forum and more of a case conference.  :-[

Unfortunately it is a group session and there are chairs for all of us!   :'(


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: cbr3d.com on 15 February 2015, 11:50:25 AM
WOW - just got my first pip!   :D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 15 February 2015, 11:53:30 AM
WOW - just got my first pip!   :D

Congratulations old boy, yip yip  ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Techno on 15 February 2015, 02:02:09 PM
 8)
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: cardophillipo on 15 February 2015, 09:19:27 PM
Ordered looking forward to getting started  ;D


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: WeekendGeneral on 16 February 2015, 04:03:11 AM
I just saw these mini's today and fell in love with them. Are the rules available as a pdf yet, or do I have to wait for the book to arrive?


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 16 February 2015, 04:28:43 AM
I just saw these mini's today and fell in love with them. Are the rules available as a pdf yet, or do I have to wait for the book to arrive?

Welcome to the Forum first of all!  The pdf has been uploaded to Wargame Vault and we're just waiting on them to authorise it due to it being our first publication.  I'm hoping that this will be completed on Monday and then we can let everyone know.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Techno on 16 February 2015, 07:17:57 AM
Welcome from me too,  'General'.
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: ianrs54 on 16 February 2015, 08:42:44 AM
Moaning

IanS


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: getagrip on 16 February 2015, 09:49:02 AM
Welcome aboard General ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fenton on 16 February 2015, 10:16:27 AM
Welcome General


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 16 February 2015, 10:48:53 AM
Greetings General. Welcome aboard.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: mad lemmey on 16 February 2015, 11:50:20 AM
Hello and welcome!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - pdf available
Post by: neilpcegerton on 16 February 2015, 09:52:05 PM
The rules are on wargames vault now, priced £10.

Neil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - pdf available
Post by: Leon on 16 February 2015, 09:54:50 PM
The rules are on wargames vault now, priced £10.

 :P

Stealing my thunder!


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: neilpcegerton on 16 February 2015, 11:02:06 PM
Sorry!

Neil


Title: Re: Warband Rules - pdf available
Post by: paulr on 16 February 2015, 11:24:24 PM
:P

Stealing my thunder!

Twice in one day :o ;)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Upgraydd on 17 February 2015, 12:41:45 AM
I've grabbed the PDF...couldn't wait for the actual book to be shipped over to this side of the world but I will of course be grabbing a copy once the army packs are available.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 17 February 2015, 01:54:31 AM
I've grabbed the PDF...couldn't wait for the actual book to be shipped over to this side of the world but I will of course be grabbing a copy once the army packs are available.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leman on 17 February 2015, 07:30:39 AM
Got the Pdf from Wargame Vault this morning. Will have a good read before deciding how to proceed but most likely to go for fantasy Italian Renaissance.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: cbr3d.com on 17 February 2015, 09:41:00 AM
Knock on the door, it's the postman, and a lovely large envelope with Goblin and Hill Dwarf army packs and a copy of 'Warband'.   :D

Now the question is how to fit them into the painting schedule, it might be awkward but I am sure I will find a way.   :-\    ;)    8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: sebigboss79 on 17 February 2015, 11:57:37 AM
Hi all, Hi Leon

apologies to all members for my recent absence. The Uni is my only excuse.

The rules look great and I will get a Hardcopy at Carronade (yes that is the beginning of an order, Leon).

Looking at the WGV preview I am wondering if you will make those bases with the dice insert available? Although I do not appreciate rebasing my Dark Elves (*shakes fist @ Leon) I shall see if a new Dark Elf Army is in order and of course they will need opponents. Also great job on the CWC, FWC and BKC rules. You keep finding ways to access my budget that I find strangely attractive  :D

See you at Carronade and will make sure to post my order in due time.

Roland


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: AndyT on 17 February 2015, 10:07:24 PM
I'm still unsure about whether to get the rules.

On the plus side I don't have existing 10mm fantasy figures so I don't have the issue of using or potentially rebasing an Warmaster army. In fact the large 100mm bases are quite a plus for the modeller in me as I would enjoy making some nice mini diorama bases.

The downside for me with these and many other sets of rules is that I have limited playing space at home so a 6x4 feet table is just not possible for me. However I'm thinking that I could use unit bases of 40x20mm with a much smaller playing area, maybe 3x2 feet, but losing the chance to create some nice larger based units.

Hmm, decisions, decisions...... :-\


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: fred. on 17 February 2015, 10:28:58 PM
You could probably go with 60x30mm bases - these have a good area to arrange figures nicely.

Despite having 100s of warmaster based figures I would avoid 40x20mm bases if you would like nice looking bases - what looks good on 40x20mm bases is them crammed full of figures, which the Warmaster strips do very nicely, and then several of these together to make a unit. A few single 40x20mm bases will look a little lonely.


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: AndyT on 17 February 2015, 10:42:24 PM
Yes, good points.

60x30 bases would work on a 4x3 feet table, if I follow the 18x12 base width recommendation I've seen in the preview of the rulebook.

Thank you,
Andy


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fairoaks024 on 19 February 2015, 12:07:40 PM
My book arrived this morning, thanks Leon!

Looks very good on my first read through, going over the rules
properly now and my appetite is thoroughly whetted.

When will the army packs be available?

Regards

Jim


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Fairoaks024 on 19 February 2015, 12:09:13 PM
Ignore me! As soon as I posted I opened the rest of the forum and
Saw the announcement, D'oh!

Regards

Jim


Title: Re: Warband Rules - Coming Soon!
Post by: Leon on 19 February 2015, 02:46:45 PM
Ignore me! As soon as I posted I opened the rest of the forum and
Saw the announcement, D'oh!

Regards

Jim

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules!
Post by: Magic Dave on 01 July 2015, 04:50:20 PM
What armies are in the book please?


Title: Re: Warband Rules!
Post by: Luddite on 01 July 2015, 04:58:34 PM
What armies are in the book please?

Its in the FAQ.  http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11265.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11265.0.html)   :D


Title: Re: Warband Rules!
Post by: Magic Dave on 01 July 2015, 05:02:41 PM
 :'( No ratmen, is there a date for any other races. Not to sound spoil and 12 i a really good number for starters.


Title: Re: Warband Rules!
Post by: Leon on 01 July 2015, 05:07:00 PM
:'( No ratmen, is there a date for any other races. Not to sound spoil and 12 i a really good number for starters.

Races beyond the initial 12 in the rules will be added in a supplement further down the line I'd expect.  Steve's done a lot of work already on more army lists, so it's in the works.

As for more releases, the Undead are being moulded at the moment, so within the next fortnight for those.  Then the High Elves arrived at Pendraken HQ yesterday, so those will be going into the moulding queue next.

 8)


Title: Re: Warband Rules!
Post by: zackzeta on 18 May 2016, 06:38:41 AM
havent read through the rules but im curious as to how the game plays is it large scale? or is a bit more skirmisher in a nature? the pictures make it seems smaller scale but other pictures make it look masive


Title: Re: Warband Rules!
Post by: fred. on 18 May 2016, 07:54:27 AM
There are relatively few stands in a 500 point game (around 10) but each stand has a lot of figures. It plays more like a battle than a skirmish.

And you can scale up to get more bases in a larger game quite easily.


Title: Re: Warband Rules!
Post by: Luddite on 18 May 2016, 12:35:55 PM
:'( No ratmen, is there a date for any other races. Not to sound spoil and 12 i a really good number for starters.

You could use another list with ratmen figures...goblins seem a good fit.