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Title: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 13 November 2014, 05:50:33 PM
Bit ashamed to post my stuff here, as some of the painters I've seen on this forums are just... stunning.

But figured it would be a shame not to share some of my stuff as well. I tried to hand paint some of the flags (which I felt melded with the figs better than the printed stuff).

Also unsure about the blue. Feels a bit too bright, yet its intended for gaming where colors do need to stand out a bit, so I'm a bit unsure. Feedback would be most appreciated!

There are more images and close ups on my blog -> battlegoatsandtrumpets.blogspot.com



(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/743/jN3tUA.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/537/xJsi1d.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/XTvwL3.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/540/Vibr3F.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/661/iHd3kF.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/674/BXYxpg.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/661/U720yh.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/HqOx60.jpg)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: petercooman on 13 November 2014, 05:55:35 PM
Looks superb to me! No need to be ashamed!

ANd Welcome! As this is your first post  ;)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 13 November 2014, 06:00:14 PM
No shame at all, those are really good paint jobs.
You need a lighter shade sometimes with 10mm to make them stand out.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 November 2014, 06:03:12 PM
Looks superb to me! No need to be ashamed!

ANd Welcome! As this is your first post  ;)

Absolutely!

Really nicely painted, love the standards. I prefer painted flags to printed ones - though my painting is such that I tend to use printed myself these days.

Nice blog - liked the Battle Report on the FoW game.

Welcome to the Pendraken funny farm .... err, forum!



Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 13 November 2014, 06:09:50 PM
Welcome to the Pendraken funny farm .... err, forum!


Haha, thanks for the welcomes! I have to say, I've honestly fallen in love with the Pendraken 10mm napoleonics. I've never really been "in" to Napoleonics before, and I did paint up some masses of 6mm stuff from Baccus, but I hated how I had to go through all the work just for a brigade of four bases looked good. It was just too small, and while the 28mm stuff looked amazing, I don't like the scale to game with. After much debate between 15mm/18mm and 10mm.... I tried 10mm to preserve the 6mm massed feel, and wow, these are amazing to paint.

Leon from customer support has been incredibly helpful too, so I've got another couple french battalions/regiments to paint before I begin ze Austrians :D


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 13 November 2014, 06:13:10 PM
'Leon from customer support'

Looks like we've  established  the existence of another of the Dark Lird's clones chaps!  ;D


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Flodin on 13 November 2014, 06:15:00 PM
Great work, particularly hussars  :)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 13 November 2014, 06:58:56 PM
Welcome

 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>

Those are figures to be proud of and once you get them on a table with some terrain you will be wondering if the blue is bright enough  ;)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 13 November 2014, 07:04:29 PM
Welcome, Leon. (To the friendliest and maddest forum on the net.)
Those look damn fine to me !
Ashamed ?......You certainly shouldn't be.
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon on 13 November 2014, 07:07:10 PM
Hi Leon, welcome to the Forum!   8)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: fred. on 13 November 2014, 07:14:49 PM
Really nice looking force, great painting and basing.

So that we can all see the figures better, you could try cropping some of the photos to focus in on the figures, rather than the nice desk  ;)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Hertsblue on 13 November 2014, 08:43:31 PM
Welcome to the Twilight Zone!

I agree with everyone else - nothing whatever to be ashamed of. They look great.

And the mantra when painting smaller figures is "paint light", otherwise they're just dark blobs.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: WeeWars on 13 November 2014, 09:30:56 PM
The French Napoleonic marching songs appear to be doing a good job inspiring you, Leon! Don't think you need much advice on how to paint small figures, your 6mm Napoleonics are equally excellent! And your vehicles are stunning! Good to see you've had a shot at a kneeling voltigeur a skirmishing pose that would be nice to see included in the range. Foundry do a triad of French blues, if you're interested. I share your liking for a battle-worn, rag-tag look. I've never embraced the lighter colour theory, myself.

Cheers, Michael


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Womble67 on 13 November 2014, 09:53:38 PM
Very nice indeed.  And welcome to the forum

Take care

Andy


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leman on 14 November 2014, 08:35:58 AM
Never underestimate your abilities. These look great AND you've produced enough to game with. Great stuff.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: cameronian on 14 November 2014, 08:40:46 AM
Ashamed - LOL, they're fantastic, very well done.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: bradpitre on 14 November 2014, 08:46:56 AM
Hello leon !!
As everyone has said, no shame in your painting is beautiful, and the rendering is just beautiful !!!!
I love your style

eric


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 15 November 2014, 10:30:23 AM
Thanks :)

But there has been something that's been bugging me about them though... I've had this nagging feeling since the beginning that maybe I should've based them using greener grass instead of the more dead kind...? My original reasoning was that the dead grass would make the colors stand out more due to contrast.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 15 November 2014, 10:48:11 AM
High summer = scorched grass.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: bradpitre on 15 November 2014, 11:13:54 AM
Thanks :)

But there has been something that's been bugging me about them though... I've had this nagging feeling since the beginning that maybe I should've based them using greener grass instead of the more dead kind...? My original reasoning was that the dead grass would make the colors stand out more due to contrast.

personnaly, it does not shock me, but can be a little more clear brush on the land would improve all parts and would be consistent with what you want to do


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: seb on 15 November 2014, 04:09:58 PM
Wow very nice, that's a great looking army.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 29 November 2014, 05:52:53 PM
Hey guys, a little update!

Added the two Chasseurs-a-Cheval regiments, and another battalion each to my Legere and Line infantry to complete the Core Infantry Division of my Lasalle French army.

Started work on the Austrians now, and will most likely expand the French army with an Elite Infantry Brigade too :D

More pictures on my blog!


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/673/DwdsE0.jpg)


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/5S0oWD.jpg)


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/540/wh27uH.jpg)
The full army at the present - Core Infantry Division, and Light Cavalry Brigade


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 29 November 2014, 06:01:53 PM
Those look superb! Nice one. 8)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: fred. on 29 November 2014, 06:15:54 PM
I like those!!

Nice and bright and crisp, very nice.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 29 November 2014, 06:19:31 PM
Most impressed !!  :-bd
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: WeeWars on 29 November 2014, 06:39:02 PM
Excellent!

"... am I completely over-thinking this?"

Absolutely not! The detail is just as fun!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: WeeWars on 29 November 2014, 06:44:08 PM
If you're still on a quest for more variety, you can paint your trumpeter's horses grey

www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost165.htm (http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost165.htm)

and their sheepskins black.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 29 November 2014, 09:05:46 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 29 November 2014, 09:12:27 PM
If you're still on a quest for more variety, you can paint your trumpeter's horses grey

www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost165.htm (http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost165.htm)

and their sheepskins black.

Sounds good! Will do so for my next batch of cavalry :)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: WeeWars on 29 November 2014, 10:53:19 PM
Sounds good! Will do so for my next batch of cavalry :)

 :-bd


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Womble67 on 29 November 2014, 11:26:57 PM
Very nice

Take care

Andy


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 29 November 2014, 11:57:13 PM
If you're still on a quest for more variety, you can paint your trumpeter's horses grey

How do people paint greys?

I really struggle to get good looking greys, hence you won't have seen any in any of my 10mm projects.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: WeeWars on 30 November 2014, 01:12:02 AM
Greys with only a little off-white works for me.


www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost151.htm (http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost151.htm)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Westmarcher on 30 November 2014, 01:03:16 PM
Seeing the close-ups does better justice to your painting skills (for my poor eyesight the initial photos were too far back). These are a joy. The detail is amazing.  8)
In my own case, I'm just glad the scale is 10mm and so less danger of my own limited painting skills showing me up when displayed on the wargames table!  m/


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Hertsblue on 01 December 2014, 11:36:49 AM
How do people paint greys?

I really struggle to get good looking greys, hence you won't have seen any in any of my 10mm projects.

I think the secret is not to make the contrast between base colour and highlight colour too radical. Either dark grey with slightly lighter highlights or light grey with pale grey or white highlights seems to work best. Personally, I've given up on dapples. Nothing I try seems to look right.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 December 2014, 11:41:36 AM
Interesting, that. It's an effect that Japanese artists usually have trouble with too.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: WeeWars on 01 December 2014, 01:14:43 PM
I think the secret is not to make the contrast between base colour and highlight colour too radical. Either dark grey with slightly lighter highlights or light grey with pale grey or white highlights seems to work best. Personally, I've given up on dapples. Nothing I try seems to look right.

Ray has put it very well. Another nice effect can be had from using a sandy brown colour as a base colour and highlight with a mid-light grey.

Sorry to hijack your post, Leon. Your units are still excellent!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 01 December 2014, 06:51:31 PM
Thanks for the helpful comments on greys. I might experiment on a couple of spare figures from my 1917 project. :-\

Apologies Leon for diverting this thread from your excellent figures ;)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Hertsblue on 02 December 2014, 09:32:32 AM
Yes, indeed. The chasseurs cheval really look the business.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 26 December 2014, 05:51:25 PM
I realise cross-posting is bad, but I figured this image is worth being posted in this thread -

I mixed the following models:

NPF1 Line/Fusiliers, march attack
NPF2 Line/Fusiliers, standing, firing
NPF5 Line/Fusiliers in greatcoat, standing, f...
NPF34 Line Elite infantry in greatcoat

While also using some spare Line infantry command and a Light Infantry horn.

I chopped up some of the legs of some infantry to make them kneeling as well, and mixed them all up in a broken line formation / sorta kinda skirmishing formation (so that I can use them as both formed or skirmish, just need to let opponent know at beginning of the game). I feel the rag-tag nature really bring out the "Been campaigning for years, have musket, will fight for l'Empereur" theme.

Have more images on my blog, but didn't want to post all of them as they include non-Pendraken stuff (especially the generals and some of my austrians)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x579q90/910/2DPHDo.jpg)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 26 December 2014, 06:02:04 PM
Very nice work indeed! 8)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 26 December 2014, 06:17:04 PM
Seconded ! 8)
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 26 December 2014, 06:22:15 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd

...I chopped up some of the legs of some infantry to make them kneeling as well...

A bit more than "chopped up", very impressive conversions  =D> =D> =D>


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Westmarcher on 27 December 2014, 12:59:22 PM
Amazing! I would never have known unless you mentioned (certainly from that angle). Sterling stuff.  :-bd


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Hertsblue on 28 December 2014, 11:52:20 PM
A very nice little light infantry battalion. The poses certainly give it some character.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Forez42 on 12 January 2015, 08:07:39 AM
Very nice, great work !!!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Mesius on 11 March 2015, 07:31:25 PM
They are superb!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Subedai on 11 March 2015, 09:04:01 PM
Don't know how but I've missed this thread completely. I won't go over what all the others have said just say they are really nice and I'm glad that you, like me, paint your own standards. Nice crisp colours and basic but complementary bases. Like' em.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 28 March 2015, 03:42:08 PM
Got a new phone, so better photos!

French Light Cavalry Brigade

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/VkOG5Y.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/vtThMf.jpg)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Westmarcher on 28 March 2015, 03:51:56 PM
C'est magnifique!  :-bd


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: getagrip on 28 March 2015, 04:05:36 PM
They really are superb. =D>


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 28 March 2015, 06:19:17 PM
Excellent !!  :-bd
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 28 March 2015, 11:21:27 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon on 29 March 2015, 01:42:20 AM
Really nice work!

 8)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 29 March 2015, 09:11:08 AM
Beautiful work! 8)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leman on 29 March 2015, 11:05:29 AM
More good looking stuff.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: TONTON FLINGUEUR on 29 March 2015, 11:19:36 AM
Hello,
Very nice Work.
Vive l'empereur


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: jambo1 on 06 April 2015, 11:13:52 AM
Lovely work!! :-bd


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Ace of Spades on 11 April 2015, 10:55:07 AM
If I didn't have Frech armies underway in both 20mm and 28mm your pictures certainly would have convinced me to start Napoleonics in 10mm!
Compliments on the paintjob; they absolutely look the part!

Cheers,
Rob


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Hertsblue on 11 April 2015, 11:03:56 AM
Great stuff, Leon. I like the way you've arranged the batteries.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 17 August 2015, 09:27:54 AM
Fairly significant update.... I've been painting quite a bit (mostly Austrians though!), but my French army is almost done. I still have another 2 more line battalions to paint (and an line combined grenadier battalion), but not sure whether to make those 2 line battalions regular line infantry, or Swiss (or something else). I was tempted with 1 line, 1 Joseph Napoleon battalion, but since I'm using a mixture of regular line infantry and line infantry with greatcoats (for added "realism"), I wasnt sure about the Joseph Napoleon battalion. Suggestions welcome!


Shot of the entire army:

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img661/5996/niQ2O6.jpg)


From left to right,

1st Infantry Brigade (3 Ligne battalions, 3 Leger battalions. Still missing some skirmisher models that I need to do)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img661/7708/7WqNPf.jpg)

Cavalry Brigade (2 hussar regiments, 2 chasseurs regiments, and a lone non-pendraken lancer regiment. Eventually I'll get 2 more lancer regiments and make a seperate lancer brigade). Also division general staff with a Dragoon and Eclaireurs de la Garde as "escorts".
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img913/2711/7PEeQS.jpg)

2nd Infantry Brigade (4 Ligne battalions, and 1 Leger battalion
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img540/1735/sbJIjN.jpg)


What I might do is paint up another brigade general and equalize the brigade more and have around 4-5 battalions per brigade, as once those remaining infantry battalions are painted, I'll have 4 leger battalions, 1 combined grenadier battalion, and 9 Ligne battalions.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 17 August 2015, 12:39:40 PM
Very impressive !  :-bd
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Norm on 17 August 2015, 01:38:51 PM
very nice - I like the way you do your artillery bases.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 17 August 2015, 08:15:22 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: bigjackmac on 17 August 2015, 09:15:30 PM
Simply awesome!  Napoleonics kill me due to the sheer amount of basing and painting; good job sticking with i and turning out a fantastic army, very inspiring.

V/R,
Jack


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 17 August 2015, 09:36:46 PM
Its true, there's a lot of work to get to this point. I never imagined I'd end up doing Napoleonics of all things when I started painting Flames of War. Napoleonics always felt like one of those things "old people do" and play, because they werent cool enough to do WH40K! Truth is, I'm 30, and started painting napoleonics in various scales when I was 26.... so its hardly an old person thing. I think what got me into Napoleonics, is that I simply got bored painting WWII german camouflage all the time - and Napoleonics are so vibrant in their color that it was a welcome change.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 18 August 2015, 06:05:40 AM
Truth is, I'm 30, and started painting napoleonics in various scales when I was 26....

30 ?

You won't be struggling with your eyes playing silly B's yet, then...... ;)
Cheers - Phil




Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 18 August 2015, 11:00:32 PM
Great work fella! 8)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 25 August 2015, 05:19:12 PM
No photo update, but I have decided on the next big project to work on....

Polish Vistula Legion in open/firing order (like my Legere, 6 figures to a base, as opposed to 8 figures in "closed order").

But I think I'm insane though, because....

- I plan on adding shako cords using string and super glue...

- I plan on having several of them be kneeling

- I plan to convert the shakos into czapkas with green stuff....


Who knows if I'll be successful or not, as this unit is going to be using figures I've put aside and were not originally planned to be part of my army, if things go horribly wrong, I can live with it.

I *should* be working on my Austrians and Bavarians but... something insane seems to intrigue me. Yea, once again, the Oooo Shiney syndrome.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 25 August 2015, 10:11:16 PM
Hmm, it seems I'm not able to edit my post above. Oh well.

Made an interesting discovery... added shako cords to a test figure, painted it a little and used some shading, and the form is obscured enough that with some clever painting and shading you can make it resemble a czapka....

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/913/FBYkqA.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/673/rJ2s1f.jpg)

Bad contrast, bad lighting, but hopefully you can see the shako cords and such. Super quick paint job while wearing my contacts (I usually paint with glasses, as I can see better detail at that scale). Miniature used is a standard French line infantry figure.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 26 August 2015, 06:38:47 AM
That is definitely looking rather spiffy, Leon !  :-bd

Regarding not being able to edit your post....There's a time limit of (I believe) half an hour to edit or delete your own posts. Though you can always ask one of the 'Mods' to do this for you after that period has elapsed.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 12 September 2015, 09:15:25 AM
It's been a very slow going due to my business trip, but here are some updates! It's actually taking quite a bit of work/time to get this far, but I think its worth it!

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img901/5036/qH1AnT.jpg)
The work in progress using small string to make the shako cords....
...and then a little piece of paper to give the top of the shako to give it a 'square' look, and thus slowly making that into a czapka with a little painting to fool the eye. Only the grenadier and the mounted officer will wear czapkas (also because its too time consuming...)



And the test base for the unit, I started with the grenadier section just to see if it was worth pursuing the project. So far I'm happy with how it's turned out

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img661/1953/ABOI6x.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img540/3769/hDF04O.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img903/2343/ez46XP.jpg)


As usual, for a unit in loose formation, I added kneeling units and to break the monotony, I added some winter clothing just to give it some more color.





Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Westmarcher on 12 September 2015, 09:41:46 AM
Good work, Leon. When you say you used 'small string' for the cords, what kind / make of 'string' are you using for this scale? I'm wondering if the same stuff can be used for drum cords and zouave turbans.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 12 September 2015, 09:54:23 AM
sowing kit string - according to the roll (?) it says 60 (3-cord) 200m. I'm not much of a sowing person....


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Westmarcher on 12 September 2015, 09:55:59 AM
Thanks, Leon.  First stop, Mrs Westie's sewing box ........  :-bd


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Glorfindel on 12 September 2015, 09:57:24 AM
These are excellent, well done.   I've only joined the 10mm community a years or so ago
and found that its only when you start to paint them that you realise just how good the
figures are.

The only suggestion I would make is perhaps to separate the artillery and their limbers /
horses.   You can see what it looks like here (slightly earlier period but you get the idea) :

http://s761.photobucket.com/user/glorfindel-666/media/10mm%20Seven%20Years%20War/IMG_2688_zpswtgzvyyf.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0#/user/glorfindel-666/media/10mm%20Seven%20Years%20War/IMG_2688_zpswtgzvyyf.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0&_suid=144204798304202604928638096413 (http://s761.photobucket.com/user/glorfindel-666/media/10mm%20Seven%20Years%20War/IMG_2688_zpswtgzvyyf.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0#/user/glorfindel-666/media/10mm%20Seven%20Years%20War/IMG_2688_zpswtgzvyyf.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0&_suid=144204798304202604928638096413)

Really impressed with your army - its growing very quickly.   Its always a nightmare when
you see well painted armies in a period you don't currently paint.   So tempting !

Anyway, keep up the good work and let us see any new units - they will always be
appreciated here.

Cheers


Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 12 September 2015, 11:00:19 AM
Great work! 8)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 12 September 2015, 11:31:59 AM
Ah yes. I had thought about doing separate artillery and limbers, but I decided to them this way for a specific reason: to differentiate between horse and foot artillery. I found that horse and foot artillery, uniform wise are just too similar at the 10mm scale to really see them noticeable apart (other than the number of horses for the limbers, of course). Which is why I ended up putting the limbers directly on the horse artillery base so that it's impossible to mix up the foot artillery and horse artillery pieces. I think the foot artillery will eventually get their own limbers, but its not high on my priority list right now  :-[


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 12 September 2015, 12:23:57 PM
Cracking job on those.  8)
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Glorfindel on 12 September 2015, 01:33:08 PM
>>to differentiate between horse and foot artillery

Thats a really good idea and makes perfect sense.   I'm just glad I don't have
to worry about that in earlier gaming periods.

Looking forward to the next installment.


Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: petercooman on 12 September 2015, 01:53:53 PM


And the test base for the unit, I started with the grenadier section just to see if it was worth pursuing the project. So far I'm happy with how it's turned out

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img661/1953/ABOI6x.jpg)




May i ask who makes those bases?


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Westmarcher on 12 September 2015, 02:02:56 PM
Ah yes. I had thought about doing separate artillery and limbers, but I decided to them this way for a specific reason: to differentiate between horse and foot artillery. I

This is a perennial 'problem.' I've an idea. I wonder if the best way to differentiate between the two types is to place riderless horses and horse-holders on or alongside the horse artillery gun base. After all, both types of artillery have limbers but it is only with the horse artillery that the crews are mounted. Trouble is that cavalry horses and horse-holder minis are usually readily available in the likes of the ACW but not the Napoleonic Wars.

P.S. Would be interested to find out the answer to Peter's question also.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: petercooman on 12 September 2015, 02:25:34 PM
This is a perennial 'problem.' I've an idea. I wonder if the best way to differentiate between the two types is to place riderless horses and horse-holders on or alongside the horse artillery gun base. After all, both types of artillery have limbers but it is only with the horse artillery that the crews are mounted. Trouble is that cavalry horses and horse-holder minis are usually readily available in the likes of the ACW but not the Napoleonic Wars.

P.S. Would be interested to find out the answer to Peter's question also.

Maybe you can have a mounted officer on your horse artillery bases? That's easy recognisable and an easy fix!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: quasar42 on 12 September 2015, 04:58:56 PM
May i ask who makes those bases?

I may be wrong but they look like Renedra bases: http://www.renedra.co.uk/productlist.php?category=1&secondary=3&sortby=sort&sortdir=asc&page=1



Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 12 September 2015, 06:11:44 PM
I may be wrong but they look like Renedra bases: http://www.renedra.co.uk/productlist.php?category=1&secondary=3&sortby=sort&sortdir=asc&page=1



Yup, those are Renedra 30mm x 20mm bases :)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 12 September 2015, 06:31:48 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd

Very impressive, definitely worth the time & effort


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: petercooman on 12 September 2015, 08:55:45 PM
Yup, those are Renedra 30mm x 20mm bases :)

Thanks!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 13 September 2015, 06:28:03 PM
Quiet weekend has allowed me to finish the left-wing of the battalion (voltigeurs). I'm loving how the shako cords really stands out, but by god is it finicky! As much as I'd love to do an entire 32-man battalion with them... not sure I could stomach it. Perhaps just the grenadier maybe?

Anyhow, pictures!

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img537/3997/kFMLpC.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img538/9050/2j1rO5.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img540/355/44mYQd.jpg)


Just two more stands to do now, and flocking, of course.

I've also noticed that the way a unit looks pre flock and post-flock has a very different feel, so im looking forward to the unit being flocked, with their appropriate regimental flag too :D
Busy week next week, so might not get much done next week....

Is it just me, or do other people set themselves objectives and deadlines as well?


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 13 September 2015, 06:32:25 PM
Very nice work! 8)
I amid the Douglas Adams school of deadlines, but yes:
56 cavalry, 24 slingers and a camp to do before 3rd October,  150 Samurai by mid November...
Eek!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 13 September 2015, 06:34:58 PM
Haha! Best of luck with those :)

Posting my progress on the forums is great, I look at other people's work that are nothing but impressive, and it keeps motivating me to continue painting.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: petercooman on 13 September 2015, 07:10:59 PM
I used to set deadlines, but i stopped bothering, as i started to look at painting as a chore, instead of having fun with it.

Only deadline i set myself now is if i need a specific unit for a game!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 13 September 2015, 07:25:00 PM
Love those !  :-bd
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 13 September 2015, 09:21:52 PM
Phil seems to set my deadlines for me  ;) ;D

Awwwww.....
Come on Paul.....
It MUST be time for a piccy or more soon.
Cheers - Mr Impatient  ;)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 04 October 2015, 01:21:08 PM
And the latest update!

Finished the Polish Vistula Legion battalion! It hasn't been varnished yet, and im finishing up the voltigeur skirmish stands (painted / modelled the same was as the voltigeurs in the battalion, ie shako cords and all).

Really happy how they've come out. Really characterful.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/633/jYXmKK.jpg)


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/631/urtZlU.jpg)


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/901/XsXdYG.jpg)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: petercooman on 04 October 2015, 01:31:42 PM
 :x :x :x :x

Loving those!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 04 October 2015, 02:18:55 PM
Those are really terrific, Leon ! :-bd
Top job, that man !
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Westmarcher on 04 October 2015, 05:57:23 PM
Agreed! Wonderful stuff!  :-bd


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 04 October 2015, 07:19:10 PM
Very nice work! 8)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 04 October 2015, 07:39:31 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd

Really characterful indeed :)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Subedai on 04 October 2015, 07:41:14 PM
The czapka idea was a goodun. They look the dogs.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: bigjackmac on 05 October 2015, 03:48:38 AM
Wow, those are amazing!

V/R,
Jack


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 05 October 2015, 08:32:41 AM
Thanks! I'm glad people like my Poles! This was an interesting (and finicky) project, but well worth it. Not sure I'll make a second battalion any time soon though, the shako cords were just... ARRRGGHHH FINICKY  :'(

...but adding shako cords to some hussars... now that might be an idea for the future.

I was starting to work on some Austrian horse artillery using some spare horse/limber figures, but despite headswaps, the uniforms were off, so I've put that on hold, and would rather get the proper sculpts. So I'll just do them as foot artillery instead. I was thinking of doing some swiss next, but I really need to stop painting the French and get on with the Coalition army... so an Austrian divisional command vignette seems to be the next option. I really should take two weeks off just to do nothing but paint....


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: petercooman on 05 October 2015, 09:19:10 AM
I really should take two weeks off just to do nothing but paint....
Do it, you know you want to!!!!!  :d :d :d :d


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Ithoriel on 05 October 2015, 11:28:53 AM
Two weeks off? I'm retired ... and I've never been so busy! Between eyesight problems, social engagements and actually playing games I'm getting no time at all to reduce the lead mountain!!  :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 21 October 2015, 09:19:14 PM
Apologies for adding non-French... and the odd non-Pendraken mini here... I guess this is turning more into my painting log than purely French naps  :-\




(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/905/fsbSQr.jpg)
Austrian Division staff, with two Brigade generals stands, and lone officer smoking a pipe while surveying damage to a limber, and wondering how to salvage this. Not Pendraken : /


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/633/wSdHRy.jpg)
(yet another) French Brigade general with ADC, but this time with a headswap, and painted as Louis Brun de Villeret, Marshal Soult's ADC. Not Pendraken : /


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/911/Evykvv.jpg)
Austrian Uhlans, finally based. I get the feeling I should've made the green stand out more instead of going for the "realistic" shade....


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/907/TNGO1I.jpg)
Two battalions of Austrian infantry, Infantry Regiment n.8 and n.22


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/910/EE0GoZ.jpg)
My Brits, finally based. 4th regiment of foot



You know, I used to think that painting Austrians were stupidly tedious due to all the white, but they really are growing on me. They look fantastic when put together. Only disappointment so far are the Grenzers because of only two poses, so I'll probably have to purchase a 3rd battalion of Grenz and chop them up into proper skirmishing / kneeling, running stances.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 21 October 2015, 09:53:07 PM
Those are awesome!  8)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: fred. on 21 October 2015, 10:33:03 PM
+1 to that!!!

These are really good figures Leon, top work.

Because of that we'll forgive you posting Austrians in your French thread  ;)



Edit - nearly had a wrong apostrophe in there!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Womble67 on 21 October 2015, 11:19:26 PM
These are absolutely brilliant

Take care

Andy


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 22 October 2015, 06:52:09 AM
All of the above ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 03 November 2015, 05:47:14 PM
Why are you posting Austrians in a French thread they said! Insulting!

And thus, just out of spite, I shall post some new "French" I am planning on painting! You can see some "hidden" austrians all blurry in the background, but pay no heed. They're WIP!

So... we shall start off with this little extra French officer, and this extra Grenz....

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img908/583/0kJWcC.jpg)


.... and turn them into skirmishing 2e Regiment d'Eclaireurs de la Garde Imperiale!

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img911/8505/StPqCJ.jpg)

I highly doubt I'll actually build 12 of them (it'd be kind of... expensive? Though to be fair, they're one of the easiest conversions ever) but I'm planning on mounting them on 20mm x 15mm bases to act as mounted skirmishers.

I have other secret plans in store, which only the Pendraken staff can guess from what I've purchased the last 24 hours  :P

Now that I know that I might be able to pull off this little crazy idea, I'll have to use the spare Austrian cheveauleger models to make some skirmishers too.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 08 November 2015, 01:37:30 PM
Finished up the test mounted skirmishers of the 2e Regiment d'Eclaireurs de la Garde Imperiale

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/907/7ya0qN.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/633/DKVuru.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/903/0dECap.jpg)



And the state of my Austrians. Have enough for 2 well fleshed out brigades, but I've got more Austrians in the works... and a Bavarian brigade to do as well..


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/905/GAwCZ9.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/633/T9oqP6.jpg)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Ithoriel on 08 November 2015, 01:50:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvUL28Skt6E


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 08 November 2015, 02:02:24 PM
Very nice indeed


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon on 08 November 2015, 05:48:33 PM
Really nice conversions there, nicely done!  I'm off to see what you've ordered now...  :D


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 08 November 2015, 05:51:16 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Womble67 on 08 November 2015, 10:25:57 PM
Very nice

Take care

Andy


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Westmarcher on 08 November 2015, 10:43:56 PM
Agreed.  :)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 09 November 2015, 06:26:34 AM
Very nice work, that man.  8)
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Ace of Spades on 09 November 2015, 07:58:03 AM
Very nice indeed. Excellent with their lances 'slung' !

Cheers,
Rob


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Steve J on 09 November 2015, 10:35:01 AM
Great work 8)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Rob on 09 November 2015, 12:33:14 PM
Love the Eclaireurs

 :) Rob


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 07 February 2016, 11:56:40 AM
Huge mega update... includings photos for the painting competition:

Proper photos of the Polish Vistula Legion:

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/s81Y43.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/BxU8rD.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/U0BEgU.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/vakpUC.jpg)



Napoleon's general staff

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/TmQDIN.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/jJknox.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/biv0Ti.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/0mIqIe.jpg)


Bavarian 7th Line Infantry Regiment

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/q7S2US.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/eYhCxD.jpg)



Swiss Infantry

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/wOL5tY.jpg)



French "Foreign" Infantry Brigade (Polish, Bavarian et Swiss)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/xcFVVE.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/Rgw1lJ.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/jvjSVG.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/GD1TkO.jpg)




Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 07 February 2016, 12:09:01 PM
The Etat-major de l'Empereur was probably the most challenging and most interesting one to do of them all - extensively converted.

The parts list:

OT2 - Used single figure for the Guard Mameluke (though, with overcoat, so colors are harder to see)
GR168 - German staff table and base figures
NPA27 - Spare Uhlan with lance, only lance chopped up and repositioned for the Guard Lancer
NPA17 - Used the body of the Grenzers for the Guard Chasseurs (see Guard Eclaireurs as generic guide)
NPA23 - Spare Austrian Hussar to represent Berthier's ADC (attached to Napoleon in this diorama)
NPF37 - Napoleon himself
NPF14 - Used one figure as infantry colonel, used 2 figures to be used as base for Guard Chasseurs (see Guard Eclaireurs as generic guide)
NPF19 - Used head of spare Dragoon for a headswap to make a staff member a Cuirassier officer
NPF35 - Used spares for headswaps: one to make a staff member a Horse Artillery officer, and two for the Guard Chasseurs


Generic guide on how I did the Guard Chasseurs:
Used base/horse of NPF14, cutting at the pelvis, and replaced it with NPA17 (like the Guard Eclaireurs I did on previous page). I then did a headswap with an Elite Chasseur. With greenstuff, I then modelled the pelisse. Quite a bit of work, but it makes for proper Guard Chasseurs with carbines to better protect the emperor!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 07 February 2016, 03:50:34 PM
Superb stuff! :D


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: jambo1 on 07 February 2016, 04:40:35 PM
Top notch painting and all round modelling, really good work there. :-bd :-bd


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 08 February 2016, 09:03:32 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd =D>


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: WeeWars on 08 February 2016, 12:42:10 PM
Sterling stuff, Leon! A lot of effort there!

I've had to put my own 1809 project on hold, waiting for essential French figures like these to be released. I may have to follow your route one day and produce my own. The Chasseur on guard duty is an absolute must in any scale! For some time now I've wanted to do a Roustam holding the reigns of his Emperor's horse, but starting from scratch.

Cheers, Michael


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: skywalker on 08 February 2016, 12:45:12 PM
I am gob smacked those are amazing  :) :)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 11 February 2016, 12:25:07 AM
Sterling stuff, Leon! A lot of effort there!

I've had to put my own 1809 project on hold, waiting for essential French figures like these to be released. I may have to follow your route one day and produce my own. The Chasseur on guard duty is an absolute must in any scale! For some time now I've wanted to do a Roustam holding the reigns of his Emperor's horse, but starting from scratch.

Cheers, Michael


Yea, there's quite a few things you can convert and play with, I'm slowly discovering!

The polish at totally doable - with tiny pieces of paper and string from the sowing kit, one can totally model czapkas and proper shako cords, albeit it being tedious, it is very much doable. So too are mounted skirmishers. Sure, it's not the most monetarily efficient as you are using multiple models to make a single one, but the possibility does exist. I'm hoping to make some skirmishing bavarian or austrian cheaveaulegers for the Allied army.

I was actually planning on converting some dismounted French dragoons in skirmishing formations for the competition, but ended up running out of time (going on holiday this friday), so it'll have to be for the next! Also wasnt sure which category it would've fit in, as the idea I had was to use both mounted and dismounted dragoons in firing positions... but theoretically totally doable with headswaps.

The guard chasseurs on protection duty were a little more tricky with the greenstuff (to get the proper scaling), but I think in the end it doesnt look too bad. One of the beauties of 10mm I think, is that even if its "aproximative", a little clever painting will make it look quite acceptable!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 11 February 2016, 03:44:22 AM
One of the beauties of 10mm I think, is that even if its "aproximative", a little clever painting will make it look quite acceptable!

These are well well past "aproximative" and "quite acceptable"


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leman on 11 February 2016, 07:45:04 AM
Indeed they are magnificent.


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Rob on 11 February 2016, 10:25:05 PM
Wow! These are really impressive.  :)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Jesus on 05 April 2019, 12:46:28 PM
uooooooooo!!!!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 05 April 2019, 02:29:03 PM
Don't know how I missed the pics above.

They are rather good !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Noktu on 07 April 2019, 09:28:35 PM
These look truly exquisite! I like how Napoleon stands out within the command group!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Leon026 on 11 April 2019, 09:50:43 PM
It's been a while since I posted here... since my business trips and hospitalization... busy busy.

Here's a little unit that was in mid-process of painting in 2016 before I kind of got swept into the events around me, and got a little (too much) side tracked with 6mm Epic 30K.

Extensive headswapping and adding shako cords involved (which no doubt helped to get me fatigued with the napoleonic period for a while)


(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/5YswSV.jpg)


(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/4IxG2S.jpg)


(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/SgvPbM.jpg)


(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/VaaTKk.jpg)


(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/2puK1p.jpg)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Ithoriel on 11 April 2019, 09:53:58 PM
Those are very nice indeed!


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 11 April 2019, 11:30:09 PM
Top work sir


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: paulr on 12 April 2019, 01:56:48 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: jambo1 on 12 April 2019, 05:39:25 AM
Quite superb, lovely work! :)


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Techno on 12 April 2019, 08:07:41 AM
Those ARE rather splendid !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Terry37 on 21 May 2019, 06:08:13 PM
Truly awesome work!!!! You should be very proud to field those bad boys!!!

Terry


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: monkeynut on 20 May 2020, 12:06:49 PM
WOW ! Beautiful looking bases ! Lovely job.

🐵


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Shutuphippie on 20 May 2020, 06:26:00 PM
Excellent work - looking forward to seeing your Austrians when painted 👍


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Ace of Spades on 05 June 2020, 07:34:59 AM
Great! You should really paint some more (and show them of course!).

Cheers,
Rob


Title: Re: French Napoleonics, 1809
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 05 June 2020, 03:07:50 PM
very nice.